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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:38:29 No.50752832 View View Reply Original Report

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The recent years of Pokemon get too much hate. Certified boomers and fellow Gen 1 Chads; post soulful things that have happened post-XY era

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:39:22 No.50752840 Report

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Detective Pikachu oozed soul

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:40:47 No.50752847 Report

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:41:11 No.50752849 Report

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TCG artwork going full coomer was based

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:43:21 No.50752861 Report

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>>50752847
the sheer entertainment of how ugly the tree was actually makes this a net positive experience

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:47:37 No.50752882 Report

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>>50752832
>post-XY
I... uhhh, the Mezase Pokemon Master version in that one movie was pretty nice?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:49:00 No.50752885 Report

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:50:38 No.50752893 Report

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>>50752832
>Golisopod
>Corviknight
that's it

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:53:10 No.50752908 Report

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Pogo has had it's negatives, but Summer 2016 was magic. Breaking into Church lots after dark to raid Gyms, running around my neighborhood with friends, looking at a stranger hold their phone knowing that we both playin... good times..
>>50752885
best mini games so Pokeathlon no cap fr fr

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:53:20 No.50752909 Report

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>>50752832
everything about pokemon post gen5 EXCEPT THE GAMES are so good

the anime i heard was great
the 3-10 minute short series that focused on each gen individually were great
the music vid was great
the new mons are great
but the games just are terrible which is unfortunate as all hell, and will stay terrible as long as the devs are under crunch time from hell so the franchise wheel can keep spinning and sell the merch on time

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:54:24 No.50752918 Report

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>>50752909
what’s wrong with the games?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:55:16 No.50752925 Report

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sun and moon also had major issues, but the presentation leading up to release was so exciting and put together! It feels like pre release vids for PLA/SWSH/BDSP have been lacking in compare

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:56:50 No.50752932 Report

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>>50752918
rushed as hell

if it wasn't a product of crunch hell it definitely looked like it had a lot of potential

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:57:26 No.50752937 Report

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>>50752918
SWSH for example are cutscene hallways with battles that have bosses 5 levels below you, instant win buttons, and forced EZ mode mechanics that babify a game that was already cheesable. All for 10 hours main "story" (nonexistent) and less pokemon than before. All with a presentation graphically that gets more insulting the years go by.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:58:10 No.50752940 Report

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>>50752932
>rushed as hell
how is that any different than the games before gen 5?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 17:59:38 No.50752948 Report

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If Sun/Moon had a Battle Frontier - I think people would rank it amongst the Emerald/HGSS/Platinum/BW2 Valhalla. It was the only 3DS era game that came close for me.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:01:58 No.50752967 Report

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>>50752940
at least the games before gen 5 didn't feel rushed and had reasonable graphics

plus at least you can make romhacks with the 2d games because its a given that game modders usually put in way more effort than devs themselves

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:02:09 No.50752971 Report

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>>50752940
>how is that any different than the games before gen 5?
Gen 5 and below all had a pretty steady progression of quality and features. BW cut some of the bloat but as a tradeoff for a more solid engine and enjoyable experience overall.
Compare that to Gen 6 which didn't come out nearly as polished in the story department even though it added a bunch of much-needed features and QOL to compensate, and then Gen 7 which removed all the good shit from Gen 6 and series staples like the National Dex.
The earlier games all had a standard of what made mainline Pokemon, Pokemon. After Sun and Moon that line just doesn't exist anymore since staple shit like the natdex/transfers/abilities/helditems/megas/battlemodes can just get removed at the drop of a hat.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:03:48 No.50752986 Report

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People really sleep on the Festival Plaza but in terms of sheer usefulness it was far better than anything that came before it. I think if people actually spent the time to try it out instead of shitting on it from the get-go Gen 7 would be considered to have one of the better online methods in the series.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:04:06 No.50752989 Report

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>>50752849
imagine drawing ugly gore creatures for years and having little to no success except like one duel masters illustration or failed manga ideas, and then deciding to literally only draw coomerbait weeb fanart and suddenly becoming ultra rich ultra popular illustrator in a blink of an eye. saito naoki sensei...

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:05:42 No.50753000 Report

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>>50752986
it followed the PSS which was GODlike and its annoying to loading screen just to get online when PSS didnt

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:07:16 No.50753013 Report

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>>50752989
thanks for the funny gossip, had no idea

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:07:36 No.50753017 Report

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alola in general was filled with soulful areas that most people don't give enough credit to. you need to actually try to explore alola to appreciate just how much optional content they stuffed in it compared to BW/BW2/XY and it feels like fans of those games just don't because it takes a backseat to the story in SM/USUM whereas in other games there's little content outside of "exploring" anyway

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:08:53 No.50753034 Report

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>>50752832
I adore full team roster shots.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:09:46 No.50753040 Report

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>>50753034
who doesn't

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:13:35 No.50753068 Report

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>>50752832
>63 million views
Based, still a Kino video

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:15:48 No.50753088 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm0nLJuRNbw

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:19:54 No.50753112 Report

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>The recent years of Pokemon get too much hate. Certified boomers and fellow Gen 1 Chads; post soulful things that have happened post-XY era

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:21:43 No.50753122 Report

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>>50752967
>at least the games before gen 5 didn't feel rushed
how?

>and had reasonable graphics
how?

>>50752971
>Gen 5 and below all had a pretty steady progression of quality and features
So did Gen 6 and above. What's your point?

>and enjoyable experience overall
what about is more enjoyable?

>which removed all the good shit from Gen 6
like what?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:21:45 No.50753123 Report

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>>50753112
wojacks arent very soulful anymore, they re so spammed sorry redditjack

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:37:49 No.50753203 Report

Quoted By: >>50755065 >>50756116

>>50752971
I love how people always say gen 5 added things and then can never actually elaborate on what it added
>b-but QoL!
gen 6-8 added drastically more QoL yet somehow it doesn't count
>b-but triple/rotation battles!
gen 6-8 added sky battles, inverse battles, battle royales, and raids yet somehow it doesn't count

but sure gen 5 added things and it definitely didn't remove berry farming (which gen 6 added back), secret bases (which gen 6 added back), or a bottom screen that's actually useful (which gen 6 added back), it's clearly all gen 6's fault.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 18:49:52 No.50753273 Report

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>>50752840
>nignog star amd pozzed city
No

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 22:39:33 No.50755065 Report

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>>50753203
>it's clearly all gen 6's fault.
Except it's not since all the good stuff you just attributed to Gen 6 got immediately removed. Thus the hateboner for everything that came after since they didn't have those features and the main story was even worse despite that.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 22:54:02 No.50755167 Report

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>>50752909
the sm anime sucked ass journeys and xy were good tho

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 23:41:07 No.50755559 Report

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 23:58:17 No.50755681 Report

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>>50752840
of all the things new pokemon brought you picked the american bastardization, well done gen1 boomer

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 00:05:55 No.50755753 Report

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>>50752948
SM doesn't need the BF to be better than Platinum

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 00:38:42 No.50756049 Report

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>>50752832
>boring pop song used to market cheaply made children's toys
>soulful

I get being a fan, but do you have to be a domesticated consumer too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 00:46:43 No.50756116 Report

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>>50753203
>gen 6-8 added drastically more QoL
Like? Most of the QOL and intuitiveness from Gen 6 was removed from SM on. Long run that took.
>Battle modes
Gen 6 gave triples/rotation a facility and also teased inverse as a format but again they did nothing with it since Gen 7 did a complete 180 and Gen 8 doubled down on those retarded decisions.
None of that changes how Gen 5 and below are way more solid experiences. You can't make the shit games just ride on Gen 6's coattail in an effort to make them look better when they're even worse.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 00:59:02 No.50756215 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKSDGz9iAgU
This video is great. If only people would use the right English name. It's Tsubomi's Dream, not A Budding Dream

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 00:59:15 No.50756216 Report

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>>50755065
>since all the good stuff you just attributed to Gen 6 got immediately removed
how is that gen 6's problem?

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:10:31 No.50756316 Report

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>>50756216
It's not. Not so sure why you're getting assblasted over a post pointing that out. Just because XY is pinpointed as the start of the decline doesn't mean it's guilty of having all the problems of stuff that came after.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:17:18 No.50756366 Report

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>>50752832
Not really sure why people think pokemon games have gotten worse.
The central theme that drove the original games was that sense of wonder you have, as a child, from running into a new bug to catch and look at.
Since cities are becoming more citified and kids are spending less time outside, pokemon was a way to spread that magic to the next generation.
And it worked. Is still working. Kids love it - the shows, the games, it's doing today exactly what they set out to do 30 years ago.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:18:11 No.50756372 Report

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>>50756316
>Just because XY is pinpointed as the start of the decline
You haven't given a reason to pinpoint it as the start of a decline.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:20:38 No.50756382 Report

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>The recent years of Pokemon get too much hate. Certified boomers and fellow Gen 1 Chads; post soulful things that have happened post-XY era
Not my problem

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:22:01 No.50756389 Report

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>>50756366
>Kids love it
source: my ass

My 10 year old cousin literally sold off Sword because it was so boring. Kids today play other games not named Pokémon.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:22:32 No.50756391 Report

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>>50756049
he's a genwunner, what did you expect?

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:23:47 No.50756401 Report

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>>50752986
fuck no, the Festival Plaza is garbage, especially compared to the near-perfect PSS

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:26:54 No.50756417 Report

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>>50752849
The TCG has coomer cards?

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:30:45 No.50756450 Report

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>>50752940
a rushed 2d game is a lot different from a rushed 3d game

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:34:37 No.50756477 Report

Quoted By: >>50756608

I unironically think the series gets better without each iteration.

There’s a classical element to the first four gens, but generally I think the ideas and level design past that are all great. Not amazing, not life changing, but great.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:35:29 No.50756480 Report

Quoted By: >>50756521 >>50756525

>>50756372
>You haven't given a reason to pinpoint it as the start of a decline.
While XY and ORAS are perfectly passable games, they mark the first time a significant portion of that generation's media went unimplemented in the games and unjustly teased. Between the stubs for Zygarde's forms in XY, Eternal Floette, and other various teasing like that of AZOTH and Magearna, Gen 6 is the very definition of "incomplete"
Meanwhile Gen 7 could have easily wrapped everything up in a nice little bow but went the opposite direction of shoving Zygarde's forms and Magearna in, removing significant amounts of features and QOL that was in the previous game on the same hardware, and overall just being lackluster games in the same vein that XY were but further compounded by those issues. SWSH is just that but with SM's issues tenfold. All of this is justly brought back to XY as the beginning of the unrest. I know the Discord isn't happy at people pointing that out but it's simply facts.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:35:33 No.50756481 Report

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>>50752832
You already posted the only good thing about it.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:37:42 No.50756499 Report

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>>50752918
Too much cutscenes, handholding and unfinished shit.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:40:28 No.50756521 Report

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>>50756480
>first time a significant portion of that generation's media went unimplemented in the games
Wow, you're right, gen 3 is unfinished because Munchlax and Lucario and Regigigas aren't in Emerald. Definitely sound logic and not retard logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:40:43 No.50756523 Report

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>>50752986
>Having online access all on the bottom screen where you can interact with other players in real time while you do regular game things in the region on the top
VS
>Having to enter a separate area to access online and if you leave (especially since there’s also no PC) you have to reconnect when you reenter with limited interaction with players
Just gonna assume that you never played Gen 6. I guess it’s still better than Gen 4 and 5 where you have to use the Pokémon Center or GTS, but goddamn what a fucking downgrade and still not even the Y-Com can beat the PSS with it’s dumb stamps

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:41:10 No.50756525 Report

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>>50756480
So what you’re saying is, 3D ruined everything

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 01:52:34 No.50756608 Report

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>>50756389
>your little cousin is a representation of every child ever and individual personalities aren't a thing lololol

Kid probably just wants something more interactive and hands-on like Fortnite. Other kids are going to feel more comfortable playing Animal Crossing or Roblox. Some kids exclusively play mobile games. And sometimes, kids like things like Pokemon. I wasn't exactly eating up Mario or Halo like my classmates were when I was in school, but I was loving shit like Zelda and Yume Nikki.

>>50756477
Yes and no. They obviously get better with things like QOL (breeding is so much better in SWSH) and game mechanics (the bike making surfing a smoother experience), and the feedback they receive from fans helps them focus on what some people really want (better story, more interesting humans, etc) but the phrase "one step forward two steps backwards" still applies with taking away features and adding new ones just to see what sticks. Pokemon Amie was fantastic but now we can't pet our Pokemon in SWSH, just play fetch and talk to them like the player character doesn't know how to use their hands to give them a pat on the head. That's just one example but to say the games are actively getting worse is mostly just bitter nostalgiafag talk.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jun 2022 02:00:45 No.50756663 Report

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>>50756608
When you think about it, the advertising is targeted at 12 year olds, but the average player age is probably around 23.

Like I don’t see any kids playing Legends. Pokémon isnt for casuals either at this point. It’s a GAYMeR series.

Maybe the development teams can relax a bit on their approach to design and tutorials being for a More beginner audience.

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