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Hisuian Abilities

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 10:51:23 No.50815918 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50815993 >>50816075 >>50817403

Since is confirmed that we'll get them in SV, which abilities and HA do you think will they have? Do you see some of them being broken? I think that Goodra will

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 10:52:38 No.50815921 Report

Quoted By: >>50815925 >>50815945

Don't most (if not al) of them retain their normal form's abilities/HA's?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 10:54:05 No.50815925 Report

Quoted By: >>50816034

>>50815921
Abilities didn't exist in Arceus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:02:23 No.50815945 Report

Quoted By: >>50816024

>>50815921
Internally, yes, but PLA is rife with all kinds of placeholder data.
Officially, their abilities have yet to be revealed.
It's not unrealistic to suppose there will be some departures from the datamined copypaste, but then again this is GameFreak we're talking about..

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:16:31 No.50815993 Report

Quoted By: >>50816002

>>50815918
Their official HA's have been datamined for a long time now. Look them up on Bulbapedia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:20:58 No.50816002 Report

Quoted By: >>50816033

>>50815993
placeholders until proven otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:27:54 No.50816024 Report

Quoted By: >>50816072 >>50817419

>>50815945
It kinda is - they made intuitive changes to most that got a changed ability (H-Sneasel gaining Poison Touch, White Basculin getting Rattled to reflect its flightier nature, H-Avalugg getting Strong Jaw to highlight its new mandibles), but the basic facts of the matter are they didn't want to change most, so didn't bother.
You're free to disbelieve me, but I distinctly remember telling people pre-Legends release/H-Samurott's reveal that regional forms by-and-large don't drastically change a pokémon's posture and bipedal Samurott was a bust only to be proven right. If they went to the arse of coding in abilities (like they did with LGPE, I might add) then the listed Abilities are what the pokémon are going to have in the series.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:30:01 No.50816033 Report

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>>50816002
Every other Pokemon also has there regular ability's so i doubt they are place holders but you crazy if you think they will get something good on gamefreaks dime

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:30:04 No.50816034 Report

Quoted By: >>50816153

>>50815925
They didn't in LGPE either, Game Freak STILL coded the pokémon in as if they were making a core game, before dummying most the core game aspects out (abilities, EV's).

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:40:38 No.50816072 Report

Quoted By: >>50816106

>>50816024
in the case you don't know, some pokemon (like both bird and beast trio iirc) had unused HAs coded in gen 5, but since they hadn't been officially released for gen 5, they had their HAs changed again in gen 6. So it's not unrealistic

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:41:40 No.50816075 Report

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>>50815918
Not really useful, but I would give Scrappy for H-Zoroark

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:52:34 No.50816106 Report

Quoted By: >>50816116

>>50816072
See you in November.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 11:57:13 No.50816116 Report

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>>50816106
I'm just saying it happened once and it's not unrealistic
Either things can happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 12:12:45 No.50816153 Report

Quoted By: >>50816180

>>50816034
>coded the pokémon in
They just took a previous build and dummied down, they don't start from scratch each time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 12:21:59 No.50816180 Report

Quoted By: >>50816999

>>50816153
Not in the case of the new Regionals, you retarded little monkey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 14:58:42 No.50816758 Report

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We've seen abilities change with no warning, so its possible, though unlikely. If sheer force Ursaluna ravages the metagame, then it will go the way of Gengar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 15:45:59 No.50816999 Report

Quoted By: >>50819021

>>50816180
Alolan forms were in SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 17:00:35 No.50817403 Report

Quoted By: >>50817440 >>50817462

>>50815918
If Game Freak wanted to make them viable while still keeping them cogent thematically:

>Electrode
Competitive/Static/Aftermath
>Arcanine
Intimidate/Rock Head/Justified
>Typhlosion
Blaze/White Smoke
>Qwilfish/Overqwil
Poison Point/Swift Swim/Intimidate
>Sneasel/Sneasler
Slush Rush/Poison Touch
>Samurott
Torrent/Tough Claws
>Lilligant
Chlorophyll/Adaptability/Leaf Guard
>Basculin/Basculegion
Rattled/Adaptability/Cursed Body
>Zorua/Zoroark
Illusion Unova version gets Stakeout, Hisuian version gets Shadow Shield
>Braviary
Keen Eye/Sheer Force/Competitive
>Avalugg
Just fucking scrap it holy shit it's unsalvageable
>Goodra
Sap Sipper/Gooey/Overcoat
>Decidueye
Overgrow/Technician
>Wyrdeer
Intimidate/Serene Grace/Sap Sipepr
>Kleavor
Swarm/Sheer Force/Weak Armor
>Ursaluna
Guts/Bullet Proof/Intimidate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 17:05:07 No.50817419 Report

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>>50816024
This.
I can see a handful being changed, or replaced with a new gen 9 ability, but beyond that, I'm pretty confident that what we've seen is what we'll get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 17:09:10 No.50817440 Report

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>>50817403
>Avalugg
>Just fucking scrap it holy shit it's unsalvageable
*only because of game freak's incompetency and the type chart being a popularity contest

Things would be much different if this wasn't the case, but it would be one less thread material because "Rock-type Pokémon bad" / "Ice-type Pokémon bad" would no longer be a valid complaint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 17:12:53 No.50817462 Report

Quoted By: >>50817513 >>50817542

>>50817403
>>Typhlosion
>Blaze/White Smoke
Serene Grace fits the lore better since its specified that H Typhlosion has "graceful and refined movements", and synergizes with Infernal Parade

>Avalugg
>Just fucking scrap it holy shit it's unsalvageable
True but for the sake of completeness give it Hard Rock and pretend that will help it.
Seriously how the fuck did so many things go wrong with a Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 17:22:12 No.50817513 Report

Quoted By: >>50817574

>>50817462
>Seriously how the fuck did so many things go wrong with a Pokemon.
Game Freak took notes on a few complaints regarding some Rock-type Pokémon:
- Aurorus's typing and not even having Power Gem (Rock/Ice)
- Tyrantrum having Strong Jaw and no biting moves with STAB
- Drednaw being the same with Tyrantrum but with its exclusive biting move not having STAB
- Rock-type Pokémon usually having shit Special Defense
- Rock-type Pokémon usually being too slow for hyper offense and too fast for Trick Room (what did you think the +10 to Speed was for?)
- Rock-type moves having shit accuracy (Mountain Gale (even though it's an Ice-type move) has 85% accuracy and 100 BP while Pyro Ball gets to have 90% accuracy, a burn chance, and 120 BP)

Fuck Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 17:28:49 No.50817542 Report

Quoted By: >>50817762

>>50817462
Serene Grace would work. I was just thinking of it being a pretty viable answer to speed control in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 17:33:53 No.50817574 Report

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>>50817513
I mean, in context of PLA, that +10 speed was actually a huge deal, since being retard slow just means you never do anything. It's still an embarrassment to actually fight it and almost kills itself for you, and is a joke to use it if you're a madman, but it was a distinct buff in PLA, where Speed is arguably the only stat that matters.

But... yeah, actually makes it worse in normal pokemon.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 17:37:44 No.50817602 Report

Quoted By: >>50817760 >>50817792

PLEASE JUST GIVE ICE AND ROCK TYPES SOME ACTUAL RESISTANCES

ROCK DOESN'T EVEN RESIST BUG FOR FUCK'S SAKE

WHY DO FAIRY, GHOST, AND FIGHTING GET TO RESIST BUG BUT NOT ROCK?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 18:00:57 No.50817760 Report

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>>50817602
Requires competency and the type chart not being a popularity contest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 18:01:06 No.50817762 Report

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>>50817542
Does white smoke protect allies? no source says it does and I've never seen the ability get used since the only pokemon that have better options or are shitmons anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 18:05:10 No.50817792 Report

Quoted By: >>50817825 >>50817974 >>50818077

>>50817602
Dude, Bug doesn't need any more types fucking resisting it. Holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 18:09:16 No.50817825 Report

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>>50817792
Rock gains a Bug Resistance, Fairy gains a Bug Weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 18:31:12 No.50817974 Report

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>>50817792
You fucking braindead retard hes clearly saying the other types shouldnt resist bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 18:44:58 No.50818077 Report

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>>50817792
Bug is now super effective against Electric and every non-legendary Electric-type Pokémon get actually movepools.

A win-win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Jun 2022 22:09:33 No.50819021 Report

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>>50816999
Hisuian forms didn't exist until Legends, which was what we were discussing, you cock-smoking retarded little monkey.

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