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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 16:40:56 No.50848608 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50848811 >>50849143 >>50849167 >>50850750 >>50850774 >>50850871 >>50850963 >>50852554 >>50852617

>The move hail now causes the pokemon using its speed and attack to be raised by 1
How does this effect the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 16:41:39 No.50848610 Report

Quoted By: >>50849077

>OP starts playing the game
How does this effect the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 16:41:46 No.50848611 Report

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the meta is gay and not in the fuckable tight butthole kind of way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 17:30:55 No.50848811 Report

Quoted By: >>50849172 >>50849203 >>50851049

>>50848608
Ice is overpowered enough as it is, stop this dumb meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 18:12:39 No.50849077 Report

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>>50848610
no change

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 18:26:34 No.50849143 Report

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>>50848608
Post elo already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 18:31:52 No.50849167 Report

Quoted By: >>50849320

>>50848608
That bonus should only be for Ice-types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 18:34:11 No.50849172 Report

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>>50848811
kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 18:41:35 No.50849203 Report

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>>50848811
>weak to CHARIZARD
>overpowered
Pick one retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 19:04:24 No.50849320 Report

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>>50849167
That's what I mean like. This also won't effect pokemon with snow warning. There's just got to be a reason to use the move hail. And not have it be tied to an ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 23:53:48 No.50850750 Report

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>>50848608
Hail is replaced by the snow weather ability and instead becomes an Ice type Fire Spin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 23:57:53 No.50850774 Report

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>>50848608
Weavile would be banned immediately

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 00:09:28 No.50850837 Report

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>>50850774
weavile would never use the move hail
it could get one shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 00:14:35 No.50850858 Report

Quoted By: >>50850874 >>50851769 >>50852888

IMO it's too late to even bother trying to figure out a way to make hail worthwhile. Ever since weather abilities got limited to 5-8 turns instead of being permanent, there's not much point. And anything you do to take advantage of Gen 6+ weather needs to be hyper-offense in order to take advantage of the limited turns you have left.
Having said that, assuming we're still talking about Gens 4-5 hail, it should've either given a massive Def/SpD buff to ice types, or changed ice types on the field and added a whole bunch of extra resistances that they don't normally have outside of hail. And there should've been more abilities introduced in those gens for things like speed boost in hail, that weren't added until it was too late.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 00:17:13 No.50850871 Report

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>>50848608
Then it would just end up being used by everything that can learn is as a dragon dance but it wouldn't "fix"hail as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 00:17:49 No.50850874 Report

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>>50850858
Hail is actually pretty strong right now, probably the best weather after rain. And all it took was a broken move and slush rush for everyone.

On a more serious note, I don’t think active weather is making a comeback anytime soon. Not while free weather abilities are on decent mons. And if it takes a free dragon dance, I don’t want it back.

I’d rather see it do damage at like 60BP or something. Maybe even less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 00:40:00 No.50850963 Report

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>>50848608
>like dragon dance but it hurts your allies
Uh... cool I guess?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 00:59:17 No.50851049 Report

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>>50848811
t. aurorus hater

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 03:49:52 No.50851769 Report

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>>50850858
I'm still disappointed at how much GF screwed over weather.
They could've kept it permanent but had the speed abilities only boost speed 1.5x.
It would've been perfectly fine and made weather still be fun without being so dominant that "weatherless" is a necessary classification.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 08:15:37 No.50852554 Report

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>>50848608
>Ice-types get +1 speed in hail
Snow Warning gets banned from OU, or basically every Ice-type does as well.
At the very least, Mamoswine, Ninetales-Alola, Arctozolt get banned. Possibly Aurorus as well as specs blizzard destroys most things that don't resist it.
Basically the only Snow Warning mon too slow to make good use is Abomasnow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 08:20:32 No.50852563 Report

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Weather effect was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 08:47:37 No.50852617 Report

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>>50848608
Hail should be replaced by Snowfall which gives Ice types a free evasion boost and is Slush Rush compatible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 09:04:09 No.50852658 Report

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>>50852554
>The move hail now causes the pokemon using its speed and attack to be raised by 1
learn to read anon, OP wasn't talking about abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 09:05:16 No.50852664 Report

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>>50852658
???
No u

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 09:53:26 No.50852792 Report

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>>50852617
Legends Arceus did exactly that with Snow replacing Hail but with a 50% speed increase instead of boosting evasion.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 10:42:08 No.50852888 Report

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>>50850858
>IMO it's too late to even bother trying to figure out a way to make hail worthwhile.

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