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Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 17:29:18 No.50854541 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50854551 >>50854558 >>50854612 >>50855036 >>50855129 >>50855284 >>50855299 >>50855362 >>50855389 >>50856672 >>50856675 >>50856676 >>50856690 >>50856707 >>50856857 >>50858121 >>50858556 >>50859388 >>50859435

>Psychic type is broken upon debut
>immediately fixed in the next gen
>Fairy type is broken upon debut
>still busted nine years and almost three gens later
Why does Game Freak have such a boner for Fairy-type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 17:30:56 No.50854551 Report

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>>50854541
It's not that broken. Psychic literally didn't have any weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 17:32:48 No.50854557 Report

Quoted By: >>50855036

Fairies are the good guys, and dragons are the bad guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 17:32:48 No.50854558 Report

Quoted By: >>50856670

>>50854541
Fairy was made specifically to counter Dragon. It's doing exactly what it was intended to do.

Psychic being as broken as it was in Gen 1 was an oversight. Twin Needle and Pin Missile were the only damaging Bug-type moves, and Lick was the only Ghost attack other than Night Shade, and a glitch made Psychic immune to Ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 17:39:42 No.50854612 Report

Quoted By: >>50855409

>>50854541
Feels like it needs either one more type resistant to it or one more weakness. Bug makes the most sense in my head for either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 19:06:43 No.50855036 Report

Quoted By: >>50858211

>>50854541
>>50854557
All they needed to do was make it so that Fairy > Dragon > Bug > Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 19:25:27 No.50855129 Report

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>>50854541
Fairy was obviously included to counter how OP dragon was. Doing something to fix/nerf fairy would be an admission that they fucked up and made things even worse than they were before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 19:57:27 No.50855284 Report

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>>50854541
Pokemon was not meant to be a competitive game in the first place. PVP was a last minute addition

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:00:33 No.50855299 Report

Quoted By: >>50855363

>>50854541
Fairy was made specifically to buff Steel. It's doing exactly what it was intended to do.

Psychic being as broken as it was in Gen 1 was an oversight. Twin Needle and Pin Missile were the only damaging Bug-type moves, and Lick was the only Ghost attack other than Night Shade, and a glitch made Psychic immune to Ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:10:51 No.50855362 Report

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>>50854541
>made to nerf dragon and fighting offensively while buffing poison and steel offensively
>steel getting an offensive buff also gives it a defensive nerf in the same gen to ghost and dark and it’s fine because it’s still the best defensive typing in the game
where’s the issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:10:51 No.50855363 Report

Quoted By: >>50855383 >>50859288

>>50855299
>Steel counters fairy
>every fairy learns mystical fire and/or focus blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:12:58 No.50855370 Report

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>Why is the type designed explicitly to combat the consistently most powerful type in the game so strong?
Gee anon, I fucking wonder why. It's almost like they're trying to counter an ever-growing pool of primarily Legendary and psuedo-Legendary Pokemon or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:14:50 No.50855377 Report

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Fiction will become the goat in our lifetime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:16:26 No.50855383 Report

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>>50855363
Slow fairies learn mystical fire and focus miss is neutral against all the good steel mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:18:19 No.50855389 Report

Quoted By: >>50856684

>>50854541
Psychic was never broken, it was the Gen 1 environment that made it so overpowering (it was also broken in lore).
Then GF overnerfed it yet kept making high BST Psychic legends to justify that nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:20:17 No.50855398 Report

Quoted By: >>50856648

Why doesn't Fairy resist Ghost? It makes some thematic sense with the Fey having power over supernatural shit, and it would help fix the meta with Ghost being too overpowered offensively.
Yeah it makes Fairy even more obnoxious as a defensive typing but what else is new

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jul 2022 20:23:43 No.50855409 Report

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>>50854612
Yeah, I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:31:51 No.50856648 Report

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>>50855398
Non elemental types are not based on anything but balance. Anything that seems to make sense is a happy accident.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:37:08 No.50856670 Report

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>>50854558
>specifcally to counter dragon

While also being a better psychic in almost every way. Imagine hitting fighting for SE while also resisting dark and bug, and then hitting dark for SE as well. Why run psychic over fairy? To hit poison types and get cucked by knock off on every team? Just get a ground pokemon bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:38:04 No.50856672 Report

Quoted By: >>50856838 >>50859267

>>50854541
Why people think fairy is broken? It's like Zacian, Togekiss, Tapus, and Whimsicott and basically none of them are good because of being fairy. People even use regular weezing instead of galarian for regigigas teams because the fairy weaknesses are crippling

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:38:27 No.50856675 Report

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>>50854541
>>Fairy type is broken
it isn't though

it's an above average type like water or steel but it's not broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:38:44 No.50856676 Report

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>>50854541
Because Fairy's explicitly the "Girl Type", so it needs to remain powerful and usable for the female demographic in order to pander to "GIRL POWAH!!!!" crowds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:41:29 No.50856684 Report

Quoted By: >>50856735 >>50859256

>>50855389
>zero resists except itself
>not broken
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:44:26 No.50856690 Report

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>>50854541
Make it weak to water and watch it sink to worst type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:49:54 No.50856707 Report

Quoted By: >>50856716

>>50854541
Fairy should be weak to bug instead of resisting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:51:32 No.50856716 Report

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>>50856707
>type based around nature should be weak to thing commonly in nature
that's retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 00:55:47 No.50856735 Report

Quoted By: >>50859388 >>50859519

>>50856684
>two weaknesses and two resistances
>one resistance is against the awful Fighting type
Normal is better, Psychic resisted itself. Normal was resisted by Rhydon and Gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 01:16:22 No.50856838 Report

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>>50856672
Because /vp/ errs to the underaged and the underaged can't accept their badass dragons getting stopped by pink girly things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 01:18:36 No.50856857 Report

Quoted By: >>50859368

>>50854541
Fairy is OP but it's not nearly as busted as Gen 1 Psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 05:35:55 No.50858121 Report

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>>50854541
>Steel type is broken upon debut
>still busted 23 years and almost 7 gens later

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 05:59:10 No.50858211 Report

Quoted By: >>50859208

>>50855036
Making Fairy types weak to bugs would have made it completely balanced. Making fairy take normal damage from big would have made fairy OP cancer, but not the end all be all.
But for some fucking reason fairy RESISTS bug type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 07:26:03 No.50858556 Report

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>>50854541
looking at all those fairy types I now have a boner as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 11:13:50 No.50859208 Report

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>>50858211
They did it because of U-Turn.
Now you may be thinking "But wait... isn't U-Turn mainly used for momentum rather than damage, and having a new type resist it wouldn't prevent it from being arguably the best utility move in singles?"
Yes. You're right. But I don't think GF realized that and just thought "Wow, this move is used a lot. Better make the new type resist it lol"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 11:30:34 No.50859256 Report

Quoted By: >>50859601

>>50856684
the actual problem was ghost was not programmed correctly and everything and their mother in gen1 being half poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 11:34:25 No.50859267 Report

Quoted By: >>50859507

>>50856672
Pokemkn that would've been otherwise pretty meh or powercrept got buffed with the addition of fairy, along with togekiss and clefable that were already good were even better now without normal typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 11:42:48 No.50859288 Report

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>>50855363
>Be Aegislash
>Immune to focus miss
>Eat a 70 BP non-STAB fire move for free weakness policy and BTFO them right after
Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 12:02:39 No.50859360 Report

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what??
fairy types RESIST bugs??

what the fuck

why does game freak hate bug mons so bad???
it's literally what the entire premise of the series was built on what the fccccccc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 12:05:05 No.50859368 Report

Quoted By:

>>50856857
not
even
fucking
close
yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 12:12:34 No.50859388 Report

Quoted By:

>>50856735
>>50854541
Gen 1 Normal is better than Psychic, because of
1. how broken the Normal types themselves were (Snorlax and Chansey come to mind...)
2. how good the Normal moves were relative to other types (Body Slam, Double-Edge, Hyper Beam)
3. how shit Fighting-type was
Gen 1 Psychic however was inherently broken, unlike Normal
1. only Psychic resists it
2. only BUG OF ALL THINGS is super effective on it
3. Psychic is a special type so Amnesia go brrrrr
modern Psychic is actually pretty trash
1. Dark are completely immune to it
2. Ghost and Dark now are SE on it
3. everyone has Knock Off and/or U-Turn
modern Fairy is good for similar reasons as Gen 1 Psychic, but not nearly as polarizing
1. only Fire and Steel resists it... oh yeah Poison too I guess
2. only Steel is SE on it... oh yeah Poison too I guess
3. Moonblast is stronger than other special STABs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 12:28:50 No.50859435 Report

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>>50854541
>dragon type is broken upon debut
>multiple attempts to fix it breeding new types including introduction of fairy
>every attempt makes everything worse
>dragons still broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 12:48:29 No.50859507 Report

Quoted By: >>50859565

>>50859267
Togekiss would be better if it was a normal type so it could have STAB serene grace Tri attack and no steel weakness forcing it to run babiri berry in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 12:53:12 No.50859519 Report

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>>50856735
It's important to note the fact that Psychic types being so good actually contributed to Normal types being so good because they pushed out Fighting types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 13:10:36 No.50859565 Report

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>>50859507
most based post on this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jul 2022 13:25:40 No.50859601 Report

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>>50859256
the actual problem was that psychic has zero resists except itself

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