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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 16:03:34 No.50892795 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50893265 >>50893418 >>50893444 >>50893450 >>50894223 >>50896566 >>50897316 >>50899577 >>50900038

Why does N*ntendo send cease and desists to fangames using the pokemon IP for non-profit but not to people who make animations and drawings with the pokemon IP and make actual money on it (youtube revenue, patreon bucks etc.)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 16:08:28 No.50892822 Report

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Why do you care

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 17:27:56 No.50893265 Report

Quoted By: >>50894624

>>50892795
>not to people who make animations and drawings with the pokemon IP and make actual money on it (youtube revenue, patreon bucks etc.)?
These guys don't use ideas TPC might have in mind, while fan games do

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 17:49:08 No.50893418 Report

Quoted By: >>50899230

>>50892795
>but not to people who make animations and drawings with the pokemon IP and make actual money on it
I wish it was true OP, I still miss her…

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 17:53:23 No.50893444 Report

Quoted By: >>50894356 >>50895611

>>50892795
Nintendo believes fan games will drive away sales of their own games. Their mentality is if an amazing fan game of Mario exists out there for free, why would someone buy Odyessy? If they didn't send out cease and desists, things like TemTem might just be a fan game of Pokemon and then people would just play a free Pokemon MMO and there's a risk of not even touching Sword/Shield.

That's the mentality I believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 17:53:59 No.50893450 Report

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>>50892795
Nintendo/TPC goes after artists too, anon. TPC hasn't actively sued anyone as far as I know, but they've definitely C&D'd quite a few artists.
They primarily go after the game devs because of a few different reasons, mainly because they don't want them using up all the good ideas, but also because just about every fangame is better than the base games and they don't want normalfags to have something GOOD to compare the games to

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 18:29:45 No.50893745 Report

Quoted By: >>50893792 >>50894306 >>50899221

I still wanna know what H-manga got cancelled by them back in the turn of millenium…

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 18:35:01 No.50893792 Report

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>>50893745
Shouldn't this set the precedent that art with the pokemon IP as long as it is not being sold? But Nintendo still nukes artists from time to time...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 19:42:40 No.50894223 Report

Quoted By: >>50895546

>>50892795
weren't they like that in the early 2010s or did they gun exclusively for lets players

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 19:55:45 No.50894306 Report

Quoted By: >>50899038

>>50893745
>he doesnt know
oh boy you are in for a ride
quite the rewarding journey too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 20:06:08 No.50894356 Report

Quoted By: >>50894503

>>50893444
That only works if fangames actually have good ideas and newer games are shit, which should be rare.
... They started taking down fangames upon the release of Sun/Moon, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 20:27:12 No.50894503 Report

Quoted By: >>50894690 >>50899056

>>50894356
But Nintendo are dinosaurs and don't understand that just because Pixelmon exists doesn't mean that Legend Arceus will drop in sales. They are STILL threatened by streamers. I mean, game studio heads are already retarded about piracy and still don't understand that piracy is not a loss of sales for AAA games, piracy only affects you if your game is total shit and the word gets out. Even with small indie games, unless it's overpriced, gaming consumers are pretty aware about supporting indie devs and purchasing their games if they pirated it and enjoyed it. I'm sure most of us here have a story where they pirated something like Binding of Isaac, loved it, then bought the Switch re-release or whatever.

Someone could use the Sword/Shield assets and make their own fan game on a massive scale with amazing detail and quality of life features and I would still want to buy the next gen official Pokemon games because I want to play with the NEW mons. I might make a shit ton of comparisons to the fan game and say "The fan game is better", but GF still got my money so they wouldn't fucking care.

Despite being a $4 bil company, GameFreak still doesn't understand the power of their brand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 20:45:17 No.50894624 Report

Quoted By: >>50894811 >>50900007

>>50893265
This.

If some guy makes a fangame game where the protagonist is a lumberjack, and the first gym leader is your older brother and uses a beaver pokemon to cut down trees, those ideas are now off limits for TPC, and ideas even similar to those get tricky.
If someone draws and makes money off of a hundred pictures of Gardevoir lewds, then it's less of an issue, because TPC probably isn't dipping into porn any time soon, so those ideas aren't inhibiting future ideas the same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 20:53:13 No.50894690 Report

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>>50894503
Hell, most of the shit I pirate is stuff I either bought previously, and either want on my phone, on my PC, want to romhack, or want to otherwise mod, or else is ancient GBA, DS, SNES, and PSP era games that you can't buy new anyways, and the only person I'm robbing is the asshat trying to sell a GBA game for 80 bucks on Amazon in 2022, that wasn't great when it was new.

I think the only time I pirated something, and it influenced my purchase of something was skipping Fire Emblem Fates to play some fangames instead, but there's a solid chance I would have skipped Fates even without fangames.

That or PDFs of rulebooks for tabletop games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 21:08:47 No.50894811 Report

Quoted By: >>50899077

>>50894624
why is that=

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 21:12:44 No.50894844 Report

Quoted By: >>50894869

Even though free fan games are legal, most people fear getting financially drained in court.

GF blocks fangames because they could potentially make the fans have standards.

I mean if a 6 person unpaid team can add a national dex and all past quality of life features, people might start demanding the same of Gamefreak.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 21:16:05 No.50894869 Report

Quoted By: >>50894895

>>50894844
>Even though free fan games are legal,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 21:20:49 No.50894895 Report

Quoted By: >>50894907

>>50894869
Parody protection laws

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 21:23:03 No.50894907 Report

Quoted By: >>50894917

>>50894895
>all free fan games are parodies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 21:24:25 No.50894917 Report

Quoted By: >>50894931

>>50894907
This is your last (You), don't spend it all at once.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 21:27:22 No.50894931 Report

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>>50894917
>Even though free fan games are legal,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 23:11:41 No.50895546 Report

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>>50894223
They did, the zoomers in this thread and OP are too young to remember. They've chilled out since then as far as I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jul 2022 23:23:37 No.50895611 Report

Quoted By: >>50899029

>>50893444
Except Sega does the opposite and fully embraces and even advertises the games with Sonic and it is quite literally the only thing keeping the hope for a good, official Sonic game ever being released again alive outside of a few autists who'd buy every game regardless.

TPC sends C&Ds to fangames and romhacks because they have no control over the content in them. Even totally innocuous ones like Gaia might lead someone to Clover or Sage, and due to the demographic TPC perceives themselves as targeting, that can never be allowed under any circumstances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 02:14:08 No.50896566 Report

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>>50892795
How come poketubers can sell pokemon merch for profit and doesn't get sued?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 04:10:45 No.50897316 Report

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>>50892795
Fanart and youtubers are free publicity.
Fangames are competition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 10:39:19 No.50898586 Report

Quoted By: >>50898596

I always wondered about that.
Someone can make a Let's Play and show the whole game for free online and that's somehow okay with game companies?
If you have 1 second of copyrighted music in your video it gets demonetized or taken down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 10:42:35 No.50898596 Report

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>>50898586
Let's Plays are usually fine as they see it as exposure for their game. Music is a completely different can of worms for some reason though.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 10:49:54 No.50898618 Report

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im gonna become a lawyer for game freak so i can sue thousands of porn artists, make gardevoir porn illegal, and make millions for game freak so masuda can spend it all on hookers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 12:21:06 No.50899029 Report

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>>50895611
they only did that once unfortunately because Sega are fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 12:22:29 No.50899038 Report

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>>50894306
All I know is that it certainly wasn't PM Gals as that one came out a bit later in 2003 and I haven't read it before turning 17 back in 2007 when it got translated into Englisch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 12:27:21 No.50899056 Report

Quoted By: >>50899943

>>50894503
>pirate the game and play it, no need to pay for it now
>watch a stream of the games full playthrough, no need to even pirate it and play it yourself
Technically both are resulting in lost sales, but only one of those is permanentny daemonized…

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 12:34:29 No.50899077 Report

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>>50894811
Because a fan could possibly threaten legal action against Nintendo for stealing their ideas, even though they infringed on Nintendo's copyright while coming up with the idea. It would be an annoying legal case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 13:12:26 No.50899221 Report

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>>50893745
It’s not that great. Brock tells Ash to dick Pikachu. Pikachu is female.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 13:13:56 No.50899230 Report

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>>50893418
>Plum will never crush your dick with her tight muscular cookie
I want to die ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 14:48:32 No.50899577 Report

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>>50892795
they do target patreon though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 16:19:13 No.50899943 Report

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>>50899056
That's the executive mindset. The reality is that someone who watches an LP of Breath of the Wild, a couple of things would happen:
>They find is fascinating and purchase it to play it themselves (Very common and a lot of streamers and LPers can tell you fans tell them this all the time)
>They find it fascinating but can't afford it, so it wasn't a lost sale because they were never going to buy it
>They don't find it fascinating and they never had any interest in buying it, they just wanted to watch their favorite streamer, so it's still not a lost sale

The only ones that need to be threatened by streamers and LPers are bad games like The Last of Us 2, where people watch it and go, "Holy shit, I THOUGHT about buying this, but nevermind". But this is something most Nintendo games don't have to worry about, and they often win on brand power alone anyway.

Streams and LPs are objectively great for games, it's part of the reason why so many indie games like Inscrpytion, Among Us, Fall Guys, Goat Simulator, and Untitled Goose Game were able to explode in popularity.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 16:32:14 No.50900007 Report

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>>50894624
>because TPC probably isn't dipping into porn any time soon

You sure about that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 16:36:52 No.50900038 Report

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>>50892795
I can easily download any romhack I want regardless. enjoy the seething from a group of lazy devs who hate any sort of difficulty or good mon design.

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