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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 17:47:27 No.50900401 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50900410 >>50900419 >>50900520 >>50901461 >>50901685 >>50902410 >>50902432 >>50902643

>GF will never make Pokemon Z
>The fandom will never make its own Pokemon Z

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 17:50:07 No.50900410 Report

Quoted By: >>50900415 >>50900419 >>50900727 >>50901237 >>50901685

>>50900401
>more mega kino
>expanded and fully realized kalos
Z truly would've been the magnum opus of the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 17:51:05 No.50900415 Report

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>>50900410
>>more mega kino
doesn't improve the game

>>expanded and fully realized kalos
already in the first game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 17:51:40 No.50900419 Report

Quoted By: >>50900462

>>50900401
>>50900410
They couldn't come up with a CHARIZARD Z so they scraped it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 17:59:19 No.50900462 Report

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>>50900419
Fire/Fighting with boxer gloves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 17:59:26 No.50900464 Report

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They practically worship Zygarde over at Game Freak. When the time comes around, they'll give him his game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 18:10:39 No.50900520 Report

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>>50900401
What about Zayellow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 18:43:55 No.50900727 Report

Quoted By: >>50900744 >>50901055

>>50900410
>more megas
>implying this is a good thing
>expanded Kalos
There was no saving Kalos, it was going to be held back by the Kanto worship and other poor decisions no matter how many new story events they shoved Zygarde into. Third versions have never made the kinds of improvements Kalos needed to be good.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 18:46:28 No.50900744 Report

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>>50900727
>it was going to be held back by the Kanto worship
No piece of fiction is "held back" by actually caring about continuity.

>and other poor decisions
that every other game in the series has, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 19:45:31 No.50901055 Report

Quoted By: >>50901065 >>50901486 >>50901501 >>50901535

>>50900727
>implying this is a good thing
Megas are a good idea, yes. They should just have a wider distribution, shillmons getting one is par for the course because Pokémon is a business at the end of the day and they want to move merchandise.
>Third versions have never made the kinds of improvements Kalos needed to be good.
B2W2 expanded Unova significantly and stopped the game progression from being a literal circle, Southern Kalos and a new progression route would improve Kalos just as much.
Kanto worship would have done its purpose with XY and so Z could be its own thing, just like Ultra Changes doesn't shove so much KANTOOOO down your throat as vanilla SM or the SS DLC focuses more on the region itself instead of having callbacks every 5 steps.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 19:47:15 No.50901065 Report

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>>50901055
>They should just have a wider distribution, shillmons getting one is par for the course because Pokémon is a business at the end of the day and they want to move merchandise.
this, the problem isn't even that shillmons and pseudo-legendaries got megas but that not enough megas went to shitmons like dunsparce
if they had added more megas in gen 7 and 8 this wouldn't have been as much of a problem

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 20:16:34 No.50901237 Report

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>>50900410
I'd imagine Zygarde's Complete forme not getting shafted in its own game compared to as it did in Sun/Moon, along with getting a new beefed up Aura-related ability to actually counter its Xerneas & Yveltal along with the Complete forme not being a lame battle-only transformation gimmick. Complete forme is so radically different from Zygarde-50% and too good of a design to be wasted as zen-mode version 1.2

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 20:53:11 No.50901445 Report

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>HOLY SHIT RAYQUAZA SHOWED UP FOR 5 SECONDS TO RESOLVE THE CLIMAX? RAYQUAZA ISN'T SHAFTED ANYMORE!!!
weird standard but ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 20:58:05 No.50901461 Report

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>>50900401
No one wants to make Pokemon Z because they want clout as they're developing it, but they can't get clout because the moment it picks up traction, the lawyers will ascend from the depths of hell to DMCA and C&D the hell out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:03:48 No.50901486 Report

Quoted By: >>50901496 >>50901595

>>50901055
B2W2 aren't third versions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:06:15 No.50901496 Report

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>>50901486
They're certainly not sequels on the level of GS either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:06:46 No.50901501 Report

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>>50901055
Adding more megas wouldn't make the gimmick better. There would only ever be a small number of good megas, with everything else being worse off than any other buff the pokemon could've gotten.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:11:43 No.50901535 Report

Quoted By: >>50902824

>>50901055
>and stopped the game progression from being a literal circle
yeah, it's just a literal line instead.

>and so Z could be its own thing
XY was already its own thing.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:18:45 No.50901572 Report

Quoted By: >>50903031

Gonna be honest, I hated 3rd Versions after Gen 3. Yellow and Crystal were pretty lite updates, and and Emerald was a sort of deluxe edition which bundled Ruby/Sapphire content in one game. I wouldn't call them definitive necessarily, because the originals were alright standalone games. But Platinum was so much more polished and had so much more exclusive content that I started to dislike DP retroactively. It runs slower, has less Pokemon, less online functionality, no Distortion World, and there are "new" Pokemon like Rotom and Giratina O which were unavailable before. Now I will never play DP again.

BW2 was a decent game that filled the same space as a 3rd Version, but coexisting with the original instead of replacing it. The most optimal way to play Gen 5 is to have both games for all the content.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:22:30 No.50901591 Report

Quoted By: >>50901603 >>50902482

it’s hilarious how game freak is so good at grooming its fanbase that now people actively cry about not being sold the exact same game again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:23:11 No.50901595 Report

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>>50901486
Third version is a shitty term anyway because both first version came at the same time, neither of them are "second" version.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:24:48 No.50901603 Report

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>>50901591
This, which is why DLC is superior in every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:29:41 No.50901617 Report

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Picture it
>fall 2023
>they skip over unova and make Zymolytic Z in full console detail
>they even add some fanservice dlc for gen 5 fans like an ultimate dragon quest or something early 2024
That would redeem GF. I would by their games again after 5 years of not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 21:44:28 No.50901685 Report

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>>50900401
>>50900410
Gen 6 was the last opportunity Game Freak had to go all out before they became too big for their newer games to contain their legacy. What a waste.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 23:22:30 No.50902394 Report

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>>50901237
Agree.
How could they do that to the almighty God of Order?
Wouldn't be surprised if our reality gets wrecked by it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 23:25:01 No.50902410 Report

Quoted By: >>50902617

>>50900401
Gen 6, the one set of games so bad that GF completely abandoned it in favor of gen 7. If only they had ended the franchise there, we'd have less embarrassing failures

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 23:28:15 No.50902432 Report

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>>50900401
>XY hypes a train station that leads nowhere
>Would probably have led to Z's version of the Battle Frontier or post-game area
>SwSh reveal comes
>Also features a train station
>Promise myself that "If the post-game is a train that leads you to Kalos, GSC-style, I'm buying SwSh"
>Still haven't bought a Pokémon game since Sun

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 23:36:26 No.50902482 Report

Quoted By: >>50902607

>>50901591
>>50901603
Yellow, Crystal, and Emerald were actually unique and good. BW2 were sequels and don't count. Ultra Changes were fucking garbage and actually detracted from the games. You want DLC? How about making a decent game first instead of shitting out gen 8 and then having the audacity to charge for content that would have been standard on a $40 DS game. Third versions can be good, but modern gamefreak is shit

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 23:57:09 No.50902607 Report

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>>50902482
>How about making a decent game first
They did.

> Third versions can be good
not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jul 2022 23:58:20 No.50902617 Report

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>>50902410
>Gen 6, the one set of games so good that GF never felt the need to go back and fix them.
FTFY

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 00:04:00 No.50902643 Report

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>>50900401
What did Platinum add again?
>better pokemon variety
still worse than XY’s
>better gym/trainer teams
still piss easy mash A with one pokemon to win garbage like XY
>slightly different story
still garbage where the villains are poorly developed and have nonsensical motivations like XY
>battle frontier
wow they added two copies of the battle tower except easier and it’s still worse than XY’s because triples/rotation/super modes/ranked pvp don’t exist

why exactly should I want a Z version again?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 00:32:26 No.50902815 Report

Quoted By: >>50903012

>>50900415
Lmao, Kalosperms coping already

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 00:33:32 No.50902824 Report

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>>50901535
>XY was already its own thing
kek

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 01:08:32 No.50903012 Report

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>>50902815
>already
Kalos fans are always coping. They only ever stop long enough to attack another gen in the hope that it'll draw attention away from how bad Kalos is.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 01:14:27 No.50903031 Report

Quoted By: >>50903048

>>50901572
>3rd versions
>yellow
Yellow is not a 3rd version, it is a special 4th version.
Japanese blue is the 3rd version to japanese red/green.
The west never got the first versions, instead they got two games based on the japanese blue and then yellow, thus they got the 3rd, 3rd and 4th versions of gen 1.

Only Crystal, Emerald, Platinum and USUM are 3rd versions, the latter split into two to sheckles more money.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 01:17:23 No.50903048 Report

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>>50903031
>Yellow is not a 3rd version
yes it is

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