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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:27:01 No.50904038 View View Reply Original Report

Give one case against cross-gen evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:28:23 No.50904043 Report

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Gen 4's are abortion that in most cases look worse than the previous evo or completely disregard the line's theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:28:29 No.50904044 Report

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I don't like them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:29:13 No.50904048 Report

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>>50904038
Can't think of any

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:32:21 No.50904055 Report

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>>50904038
>Most of the designs are good
>Megas are dead so this is the next best thing, or it's arguably better than megas
>Much better than introducing some regional variant and giving them evos and leaving the original to collect even more dust
>The sense of progression is stronger when your team evolves. This is more personal but I hardly ever use single stage mons for this reason.
Only thing I can think of is that it gives us fewer new mons, but I don't really think that's even a bad thing
t. still not done with the living dex

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:33:35 No.50904059 Report

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>>50904038
Rhyperior, Magmortar, and Electivire are ugly as fuck and ruined their entire line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:34:29 No.50904066 Report

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>>50904059
electivire is based you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:34:47 No.50904068 Report

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>>50904038
Where's Basculegion?
>inb4 regional evo
White Stripe Basculin is only an alternate form, not a regional form, as confirmed by Home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:35:59 No.50904071 Report

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>>50904038
Rhyperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:38:45 No.50904076 Report

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>>50904059
>a handful were ugly so we gotta toss the entire concept out

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:40:44 No.50904083 Report

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>>50904059
Why should a violent monster be a pretty boy? Fuck the ugly criticism, Magmortar is a chad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:41:40 No.50904084 Report

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>>50904068
Even if it isn't explicitly a "Hisuian Basculin" it was still introduced in Gen 8 just like Basculegion. And since the Basculins from Gen 5 aren't in the game and can't evolve either, no part of the line is technically cross-gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:43:42 No.50904089 Report

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>>50904083
>chad
He got nigger lips tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:47:27 No.50904097 Report

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>>50904084
they better retcon this in SV really

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:51:52 No.50904113 Report

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>>50904038
desu scizor looks like shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:53:48 No.50904119 Report

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>>50904038
I wanted quick feet ursaluna

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:58:06 No.50904134 Report

Quoted By: >>50904153

>>50904038
I can't give ONE case against cross-geb evolutions because each of them felt vastly different from another. For example, I hate Kingdra, Lickilicky, Rhyperior, Magmortar, Ambipom, and Probopass because they were designed to be so much uglier than their preevo for no fucking reason at all. But on the other hand, I love Bellossom, Porygon2, Steelix, Eeveelutions, Togekiss, Gallade, Dusknoir, and all the PLA evos because they are cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 05:58:07 No.50904135 Report

Quoted By: >>50904162

>>50904043
Leafeon, Glaceon, Tangrowth, Porygon-Z, Roserade, Yanmega, Gliscor, Weavile, Gallade, and Froslass are good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:02:40 No.50904147 Report

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>>50904055
I'd argue that Cross-Gens are simply better than Megas, they can provide an evolutionary line with that extra evolution to bring it up to par plus they don't have to be limited to the 100BST increase of Megas meaning you can have something like Scizor or Electivire where the change is more of a pivot and Yanmega and Togekiss where you have far larger BST increases.

That being said I wouldn't mind seeing a few megas repurposed into natural evolutions even if the design has to be changed somewhat as long as it keeps the core concepts;
> Mega Kangaskhan
> Mega Medicham
> Mega Banette
> Mega Steelix
> Mega Sableye
> Mega Audino

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:03:25 No.50904153 Report

Quoted By: >>50904156 >>50904191 >>50905633 >>50909592

>>50904134
How can you hate probopass? The mini noses are fucking awesome and the magnet iron beard is just such a cool detail, it even has a nice hat like some moai did so it's a direct evolution on the noaepass concept

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:04:19 No.50904156 Report

Quoted By: >>50904191 >>50910305

>>50904153
I hate jews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:05:24 No.50904162 Report

Quoted By: >>50904257 >>50904371

>>50904135
>some of the worst looking eeveelutions
>gets bigger and dumber
>this one is ok
>legit looks worse AND less detailed than roselia
>ok
>ok
>looks worse than sneasel and it's lazy as shit, just add more feathers and a retarded egyptian theme
>the fucking hips
>looks nothing like snorunt and completely disregards its theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:13:10 No.50904191 Report

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>>50904156
Thanks for answering that for me

>>50904153
That and when you compare Probopass (which probably designed around the nose meme and the party nose-glasses joke) with Nosepass (based on the Easter Island moai) and put them side-by-side in a blind test, 9 out of 10 people would choose Nosepass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:29:50 No.50904257 Report

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>>50904162
>looks nothing like Snorunt and completely disregards its theme
You mean snow yokai? Because Snorunt is a Yukinko/Zashiki-Warashi and Froslass is a Yuki-onna

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:34:19 No.50904269 Report

Quoted By: >>50904287

who the fuck hates probopass? he’s adorably goofy and silly. not every Pokémon has to be “LE EPIN DARGON” or “sexy furry Pokémon”

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:39:51 No.50904287 Report

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>>50904269
>adorably goofy and silly
Say that again after the Alpha Probopass in PLA Hyper Beamed you for no fucking reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:40:42 No.50904294 Report

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>>50904043
fobp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 06:56:13 No.50904371 Report

Quoted By: >>50905568

>>50904162
>Eeveelutions
I'd say least good instead of worst, but okay.
>Tangrowth
I'll give you that he's just bigger and dumber but I don't see what else you could have done with Tangela.
>Roserade
More detail doesn't automatically make something better. Just disagree with you that it looks worse.
>Weavile
My least favourite of the bunch so I'm not going to bother defending it.
>Gallade
The hips never bothered me but I guess they will now.
>Froslass
Like the other reply said, it follows the design well, better than Glalie anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 07:00:09 No.50904384 Report

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>>50904038
Gen 4's are so bad I forgot most of them existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 08:00:06 No.50904576 Report

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>>50904038
Sylveon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 11:51:07 No.50905260 Report

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1. sub-optimal way to buff existing pokemon, since it's basically just making a new one and telling the old one's fanbase to use the new design
2. some of the ones we have just look bad or feel pointless even in complete isolation
That said I'm, in general, somewhat iffy on how evolution works as a game mechanic, because I was introduced to this series through the anime and Stadium, the former of which intentionally keeping plenty of the main characters' team members NFE, and the latter of which designing rental sets around having to trade-off good moves for good stats. I wish there was a better solution for wanting to use Rhydon or Misdreavus than "use this item that'll get hit with knock off because someone thought it was a good idea to buff that move to have monkey strength"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 12:19:54 No.50905357 Report

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>>50904097
Agreed. Basculin deserved an evo and it finally could have had one in Basculegion. It's stupid.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 12:29:17 No.50905400 Report

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>>50904055
Togekiss is great tho
Look at the size of the fluffy lad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 13:14:40 No.50905568 Report

Quoted By: >>50908804

>>50904371
>I'll give you that he's just bigger and dumber but I don't see what else you could have done with Tangela.
I'm not one of the people who think all the beta mons were great, but I did prefer the older concept for a Tangela evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 13:25:13 No.50905597 Report

Quoted By: >>50905603 >>50905802

>>50904038
Scizor makes no sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 13:27:08 No.50905603 Report

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>>50905597
It's why it's good tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 13:34:51 No.50905633 Report

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>>50904153
anon he likes sneasler, don't bother

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:03:56 No.50905766 Report

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>>50905400
It's a great hugger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:05:26 No.50905772 Report

Quoted By: >>50905792

>>50904038
Is there some specific reason why only even number games get crossgens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:09:14 No.50905787 Report

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>>50905400
Lady. That Togekiss is female

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:10:15 No.50905792 Report

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>>50905772
They don’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:11:36 No.50905802 Report

Quoted By: >>50905940

>>50905597
It does. Scyther is about slashing. Scisor is about cutting, and Kleavor is about chopping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:13:25 No.50905815 Report

Quoted By: >>50905832 >>50905871 >>50908803 >>50908817 >>50909989

>>50904038
My issue with them is lore wise (autistic I know)

Look like you're telling me no one was treating their Chansey or Golbat nice enough for an evolution until Gen 2 came along?

Lickitung has had access to Rollout since Gen 2 but it just doesn't evolve until Gen 4?

Roselia are abundant in Gen 3 but you're telling me no one in Hoenn ever stumbled across a baby Budew or a fully grown Roserade in the wild?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:18:06 No.50905832 Report

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>>50905815
They exist, you just don't see them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:25:07 No.50905864 Report

Quoted By: >>50905901 >>50905962

I hate Rhyperior, Magmortar, Electivire, and Ambipom

Gliscor, Mismagius, Dusknoir, and Magnezone are ok designs but they look too different from the rest of their line imo

The rest are all good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:26:55 No.50905871 Report

Quoted By: >>50905877

>>50905815
Everyone had shoes in gen1 and 2 but nobody decided to run in them until gen 3?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:27:21 No.50905873 Report

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No idea why Audino doesn't have its Mega as an evolution whereas Chansey does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:27:43 No.50905877 Report

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>>50905871
Not all shoes are suitable for running. That's why you can't do it right away in gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:30:26 No.50905891 Report

Quoted By: >>50905894 >>50905924 >>50905930 >>50906090 >>50906585 >>50906602 >>50911687

The real question is, what's the point of cross-gen babies, especially the incense ones? There are like 2 that actually have useful moves from their baby forms, the rest are just dex filler with no practical reason to exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:30:54 No.50905893 Report

Quoted By: >>50906248

>>50904059
Just don't use them? You can now use eviolite Rhydon, Electabuzz and Magmar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:31:21 No.50905894 Report

Quoted By: >>50906585 >>50909514

>>50905891
Merchandising.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:32:41 No.50905901 Report

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>>50905864
>Gliscor is too different
Looks almost the same as gligar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:36:13 No.50905924 Report

Quoted By: >>50905937 >>50905986

>>50905891
Some of them are good, like Tyrogue or Budew before first gym. It took a good while for them to make sense though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:37:15 No.50905927 Report

Quoted By: >>50908715

>>50904084
What the fuck were they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:37:48 No.50905930 Report

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>>50905891
What's the point of any pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:39:03 No.50905937 Report

Quoted By: >>50905957 >>50906090

>>50905924
What game lets you have Tyrogue before the first gym?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:39:24 No.50905940 Report

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>>50905802
>>50905802
scizor does still look like shit though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:39:54 No.50905943 Report

Quoted By: >>50905960

>>50904038
What
This is a sick idea that just doesn't get executed well often
Why do we suddenly hate scizor, eeveelutions, porygon-z, and weavile

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:41:00 No.50905949 Report

Quoted By: >>50905963

>>50904038
I'm a fan. Sure there are some duds that really don't need to exist, but for the most part these additions are all pretty solid. Or at least look cool.
Gives me hope for cool fakemon I've seen posted around here. That maybe GF will do something like them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:42:00 No.50905957 Report

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>>50905937
No I mean him as a concept of giving you three potential pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:42:31 No.50905960 Report

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>>50905943
>we

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:43:07 No.50905962 Report

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>>50905864
>Electivire bad
>Lickilicky good
Holy shit taste

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:43:20 No.50905963 Report

Quoted By: >>50908980

>>50905949
>obstagoon 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:45:52 No.50905986 Report

Quoted By: >>50905992 >>50906202

>>50905924
Tyrogue is cool, and I like the gen 2 babies in general, nice designs and they don't take any extra effort to obtain, it's mostly the incense ones I think are dumb, having to go out of your way to breed a total shitmon that doesn't even make the evolved pokemon any better off for going through that stage in 90% of cases

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 14:47:11 No.50905992 Report

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>>50905986
Igglybuff, Pichu, and Cleffa are annoying and only serve to make breeding more annoying due tot heir evolution requirements. At least Magby, Smoochum, and Elekid just evolve via level.
Togepi gets a pass because you initially get it as an egg, but Togetic still isn't great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:00:01 No.50906055 Report

Quoted By: >>50907824

>>50904038
I hate evolutions exclusive to regional variants. The concept makes sense but the whole regional variant thing will just get more and more out of hand over time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:06:19 No.50906089 Report

Quoted By: >>50906623

>>50904043
Steelix is a far shittier design than any crossgen evolution from gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:06:28 No.50906090 Report

Quoted By: >>50906274 >>50906294

>>50905891
You get access to a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz that would otherwise be too powerful that early.
They are also marketable.
>>50905937
SWSH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:26:32 No.50906202 Report

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>>50905986
Gen 2 is the worst because you only get the babies after the evolution is found

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:27:58 No.50906212 Report

Quoted By: >>50906267 >>50906612

>>50904068
Shills have been trying to push that regionals are new pokemon and thus that doesn't count as a cross-gen evolution. It probably came from a poketuber.

They get really autistic about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:28:21 No.50906216 Report

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>>50904043
Still better than everything from gen 7 and 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:32:52 No.50906248 Report

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>>50905893
All terrible, especially Rhydon.
Evolve them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:36:13 No.50906267 Report

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>>50906212
Well, my VC Qwilfish can't evolve in Legends whereas my Ursaring could. You sound extremely butthurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:37:14 No.50906274 Report

Quoted By: >>50906295 >>50906316

>>50906090
>a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz
>roselia
>level 13 pre gym 3 mon in its debut title
Yeah, super justified baby. Nevermind gardenia uses roserade as her ace in the second gym.
Budew was completely pointless
>I totally need a grass pokemon at the start of the game
shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:40:02 No.50906294 Report

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>>50906090
>You get access to a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz that would otherwise be too powerful that early.

While I agree that babymon are good for this purpose, they clearly didn't balance out the evo methods for this at all. In the later gens you can easily evolve your happiness evo babies before the first gym, while stuff like magby and elekid evolve way too late at level 30. From level 20-30 they completely fall off ingame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:40:06 No.50906295 Report

Quoted By: >>50906336

>>50906274
You don't get Roselia until Verdanturf and it's m7ch lower than Gym 3. Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:43:24 No.50906316 Report

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>>50906274
Budew is cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:46:43 No.50906336 Report

Quoted By: >>50906362

>>50906295
>until Verdanturf
You get it right before the third gym at level 13 yes.
Completely pointless, same as azurill/cleffa/igglybuff/pichu, what's the point of babies of low level pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 15:52:00 No.50906362 Report

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>>50906336
And if you had one since the start of the game it would be higher level and you would have got to use it hours before as a Budew. Complete non issue,

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:30:09 No.50906585 Report

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>>50905891
they could've been used as a cool way to give you access to certain types, and maybe even rewarded you with a powerful pokemon if you have the patience to train it in the earlygame. But they don't really use them like that at all, so >>50905894

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:32:28 No.50906602 Report

Quoted By: >>50906611

>>50905891
there's a mechanic where if you catch a wild baby pokemon it'll have 3 perfect IVs. Stuff like this could be a cool way to incentivize getting them. Maybe extend that 3 perfect IVs to bred babies as well, maybe even let baby pokemon learn egg moves via level up. They can make them work they just choose not to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:34:11 No.50906611 Report

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>>50906602
It wouldn't surprise me if wild babies having 3 perfect IVs wasn't an accident.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:34:23 No.50906612 Report

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>>50906212
>Introduce regional variant
>give it a new evo
>original pokemon literally gets nothing from this
The singular point of cross-gen evolutions doesn't exist for regional evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:36:52 No.50906623 Report

Quoted By: >>50906641

>>50906089
An incredibly homosexual take.
I was not aware the Lord of the Faggots had left the Dildo Throne to come posting here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:40:07 No.50906641 Report

Quoted By: >>50910000

>>50906623
You format your post like a retard and homos live rent free in your head.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:41:33 No.50906653 Report

Quoted By: >>50906670 >>50906681 >>50906686 >>50908849 >>50910023 >>50911692

>>50904038
I cropped out the designs that were good or at least OK.
The odds of getting an okay or better evo for your favorite line are solid, but it's risky because the line could be ruined by one of the pic-rel abominations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:44:29 No.50906670 Report

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>>50906653
>rhyperior is the one that ruined the line
Rhydon is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:47:11 No.50906681 Report

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>>50906653
I like Magnezone, but the rest I agree with.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 16:48:06 No.50906686 Report

Quoted By: >>50906919 >>50909520

>>50906653
why couldn't Rhyperior looked like this or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 17:19:53 No.50906919 Report

Quoted By: >>50906955

>>50906686
Anything that looks like Rhydon is doomed to be shit.
Being different is what make Rhyperior supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 17:24:25 No.50906955 Report

Quoted By: >>50907711 >>50907834 >>50909145

>>50906919
>t. obese construction worker
pokemon should not have jobs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 18:54:24 No.50907711 Report

Quoted By: >>50909145 >>50909172

>>50906955
That's what you see.
I only see a walking mountain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 19:04:08 No.50907775 Report

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>>50904043
Gen 4's are based and include my top 2 favorite pokemon. Get some taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 19:12:31 No.50907824 Report

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>>50906055
No reason they can't just add an "Alolan Incense" item or whatever that makes your Raticate lay Alolan Rattata eggs when held. Or regional forms could be a great reason to bring back the safari zone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 19:13:48 No.50907834 Report

Quoted By: >>50908674

>>50906955
>pokemon should not have interesting themes or concepts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:04:51 No.50908674 Report

Quoted By: >>50909145

>>50907834
They can't have it if it's tied to humans. There's the nuance.
(It's ironic)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:09:22 No.50908715 Report

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>>50905927
the idea was probably that white basculin eventually deviated into the other two but there really wasn't much of a reason they couldn't just make it another east/west split the same way they did with shellos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:12:45 No.50908747 Report

Quoted By: >>50909396

>>50904055
>More new Pokemon gives us fewer new Pokemon.
Huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:16:18 No.50908780 Report

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>>50904055

Oh cross gen evos have always been better than megas.
I remember being really sad when megas were introduced for any pokemon line that wasn't complete like say banette's, because now instead of having a third evo to that line, we are forever stuck at 2 with a redesign that is virtually unobtainable now, that could've worked fine as a normal third evolution with some simple design changes.
Now that cross gen is apparently back in the menu in gen 8, I have hope for some of my favorite underappreciated mons like magcargo or drifblim. Even if they give them the zigzagoon treatment I'd be fine with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:19:05 No.50908803 Report

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>>50905815
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity#:~:text=Retroactive%20continuity%2C%20or%20retcon%20for,recontextualizes%20or%20breaks%20continuity%20with

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:19:09 No.50908804 Report

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>>50905568
this art looks waay more anime friendly than tangrowth. I love the smile like it just tripped some weeb in the hallway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:20:57 No.50908817 Report

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>>50905815
I understand where you're comiong from, but that applies to almost every mechanic added to the games since gen 1.
For example pokemon having no gender except nidoran in gen 1.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:22:47 No.50908832 Report

Quoted By: >>50908848

>>50904038
I don't like that Politoed is green. Looks better with the rest of the line's color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:23:35 No.50908842 Report

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>>50904038
i cant

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:24:06 No.50908848 Report

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>>50908832
To piggyback off of this, Bellossom is also better with Oddish colors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:24:10 No.50908849 Report

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>>50906653

magnezone is cool, the rest I agree

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:33:03 No.50908891 Report

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>>50904038
>Give one case against cross-gen evolutions.
It undervalues the new mon, instead of a cool new species its just an add on to a earlier mon. Also, cross gen evolutions makes the region feel like an extension of an earlier region.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:36:47 No.50908910 Report

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Arguments in support of Cross-Gen-Evos: CGE

● ONE
■ Breathes new life into old Pokémon which are dead both competitively, and in singleplayer too (due to being locked behind post-game for example).

● TWO
■ Uses the older, and therefore better, design as a base for the new Pokémon.

● THREE
■ Reminds us of the theme of Pokemon, mutation and evolution, and strengthens continuation of the Pokemon World across generations

● FOUR
■.Kanto IS the series. Charizard, Pikachu, Ash, the filling of the Pokedex, the Elite Four and Champion, they are never ever going away. You can never go wrong with pandering to Kanto. Everything else pales in comparison. It is why the series works. It is the skeleton AND the meat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 21:47:42 No.50908980 Report

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>>50905963
>Hello! Homer Simpson speaking.
> ... uhuh
> mhm...
> Ah! Do they really?
> aha... well..
> That's all very interesting Mr. Masuda, but why would you put bugs in someone's anus cavity?
> ... uhuh
> hm!
> Well I'd never...
> ...
> Based on what?
> .. wow!
> Alright then, I have to go pickup Lisa from practice, but the next time I go to the toilet and take a huge stinky dump I'll take a photo of the result and email it to you so you have a reference for how good your designs are.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 22:14:39 No.50909145 Report

Quoted By: >>50909451

>>50906955
>>50907711
>>50908674
I've always seen Rhyperior as a pharaoh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 22:18:55 No.50909172 Report

Quoted By: >>50909458

>>50907711
Do mountains normally have random ugly orange bits stuck on them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 22:48:25 No.50909396 Report

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>>50908747
that does read a little weird. I just meant that we'd get fewer entirely new pokemon lines if most of the dex focuses on crossgens for old ones.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 22:55:07 No.50909451 Report

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>>50909145
Maybe people wouldn't be as harsh as they could if Rhyperior was a Diancie to Rhydon's Carbink: A Mythical who's known to be a rare mutation of a normal species who acts as a ruler to them. Being a Pharaoh, an Emperor, a King, a Tribe Chief, an Elder, a God, a Titan, i don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 22:56:15 No.50909458 Report

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>>50909172
Mountains are composed of multitudes of different rocks, so some orange bits on a brown one isn't Farfetch'd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:00:11 No.50909490 Report

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Every single crossgen evo except for Tranneon is based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:02:01 No.50909506 Report

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>>50904043
True. What a disgrace. But other gens did it right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:03:43 No.50909514 Report

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>>50905894
Which is also the main point of the entire serirs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:04:44 No.50909520 Report

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>>50906686
Great design

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:05:51 No.50909532 Report

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>>50904059
Their prevos were just as ugly retard. Magmar even uglier in fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:06:23 No.50909537 Report

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I don't know if it was because we were in an ancient setting or if there was some different design philosophy for this game but seeing them all lined up I really appreciate the earthy tones they used for the Legends crossgens. The Gen 2 ones especially look like plastic toys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:06:55 No.50909543 Report

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>>50904084
I hate that they're not faster or anything, the design is fine but they like could at least give them 100-120 speed and swift swim as a hidden ability but its like they don't give a shit anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:08:36 No.50909561 Report

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>>50904038
Only the gen 2 evolutions look good. There were afew good ones in gen 4. But most were shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:12:28 No.50909592 Report

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>>50904153
Its colour proportions and how the "beard" look like are all ugly.
The mini nosrs make the whole design look clouded and confused.
Good example of cool isea, but terrible execution

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:27:44 No.50909707 Report

Quoted By: >>50911510

Just waiting for them to make more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:49:46 No.50909858 Report

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>>50904055
What i hate is split evolutions. Specially regional split ones.
Galar got the most problematic ones, with Meowth, Mr. Mime, and Linoone line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 00:10:31 No.50909989 Report

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>>50905815
I get where you're coming from but after gen 2 they dropped the whole "wow look at all these new discoveries!" angle and it became "It's just new to you bro."

Which is for the best since gen 2 has historic ties to certain Pokemon while also having characters act as if they just suddenly stumbled onto 100 new species out of no where.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 00:12:19 No.50910000 Report

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>>50906641
>be me, this anon
>things i'm not used to disgust me
>like original thoughts and vaginas
>be very gay
the puzzle pieces come together

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 00:16:40 No.50910023 Report

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>>50906653
I love Magnezone and Probopass is alright but I agree with the rest. Ambipom especially is an abomination against god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 00:21:14 No.50910044 Report

Quoted By: >>50910252 >>50910304

>>50909451
Rhydon already feels so complete that I think an evolution in general was a mistake. A preevo to diversify variety in early caves/sections of Mt Coronet would have been a better choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 01:01:34 No.50910252 Report

Quoted By: >>50910304

>>50910044
With my idea, Rhyperior wouldn't be an "Evolution" since it'll be an unrelated Mythical that happens to be a mutation of Rhydon.
Therefore a pre-evo could happen while keeping it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 01:08:08 No.50910304 Report

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>>50910252
>>50910044
I just hate that they can't get megas cause both aren't even decent competetively despite 3 stage evolution and electivire even loses speed too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 01:08:24 No.50910305 Report

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>>50904156
But probopass is cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 04:31:23 No.50911510 Report

Quoted By: >>50912567

>>50909707
do people actually want a dunsparce evo or is it a meme? Who gives a fuck about dunsparce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 05:10:23 No.50911687 Report

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>>50905891
>Gen 2 was supposed to be the end of Pokémon franchise so they pulled out every evolution they come into mind, but GBC had limited storage.

>Gen 4 also felt like the "end". Sinnoh being the last region based on Japan so they AGAIN "completed" every previous Pokémon they thought needed an evolution, making Gen V a total reset of the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 05:11:48 No.50911692 Report

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>>50906653
I dislike Rhyperior but Rhydon already sucks ass. Give me a branching evo that doesn't ruin Rhyhorn.
Also Magnezone is excellent.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 05:27:32 No.50911747 Report

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>>50904038
damn i never realized how tasteful gen 2 cross evos were even as azoomie who grew up with gen 4 most of the cross evos look like utter shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 08:59:17 No.50912546 Report

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>>50905400
Its not the worst of the worst but
>becomes a massive sphere
>also becomes a plane?
thematically harkening back to Togepi's egg motif becoming more egg shaped and naturally evolving to become more aerodynamic but these two things clash extremely into a awkward flying blob... also it's leg are dumb

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Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:03:44 No.50912567 Report

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>>50911510
its been this unfinish larval shitmon for over 20 years people just wanna see it grow into some powerful serpent or something anything. Dunsparce is often overtly rare whenever it get in a game which it seldom does and for getting it your rewarded with some slow pure normal type that at best does some mediocre parahacks. Also fuck you I car about Dunsparce it's cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 12:58:02 No.50913549 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 13:17:58 No.50913647 Report

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>>50904038
Gen 2 did it best. Sylveon is pretty good. LA did alright (Ursaluna looks dumb with the mud). Gen 4 designs just look off; same goes for the “regular” additions in that gen.

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