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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:16:06 No.50909617 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50911471 >>50912002 >>50912558 >>50915118 >>50917867 >>50919731 >>50920179 >>50920958 >>50921530

Why do people suck at facing stall?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1615292051

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:23:03 No.50909662 Report

Quoted By: >>50909872

>guillotine
>sheer cold
>fissure
>toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:24:46 No.50909678 Report

Quoted By: >>50909872 >>50910600

But both of those are stall teams?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:52:20 No.50909872 Report

Quoted By:

>>50909678
>>50909662
Why post of you don't even play OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jul 2022 23:54:21 No.50909888 Report

Quoted By: >>50921055

>use one move
>SWITCH
>use one move
>SWITCH
>use one move
>SWITCH
6v6 is a meme format

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 01:56:08 No.50910600 Report

Quoted By:

>>50909678
Ah yes, Life Orb Rillaboom, that old stall staple

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 04:21:59 No.50911471 Report

Quoted By: >>50912009

>>50909617
It's almost like smoggies banned everything that's good against stall to artificially make it seem better than it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 06:30:36 No.50912002 Report

Quoted By:

>>50909617
>turn 47
>first pokemon finally dies
damn, I just play the solo games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 06:31:25 No.50912009 Report

Quoted By: >>50912442

>>50911471
Stall is at its worst right now. Play the game as you would say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 08:31:47 No.50912442 Report

Quoted By: >>50921505

>>50912009
Stall is at its worst because stall is so bad against stall.
If stall wasn't so good, stall would be a lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:01:13 No.50912558 Report

Quoted By: >>50912656 >>50920190

>>50909617
Stall is one of these strategies where you have to build your team around it. That however makes your team less viable in general so most people don't want to do that and eventually end up walled by the dude playing stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:23:36 No.50912656 Report

Quoted By: >>50912661

>>50912558
Nah there are plenty of chances to break stall. In fact, usually you can win with just one lucky crit. You can even see some of the chances that the player missed out on whether it was a bad strategy or just a bad prediction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:24:21 No.50912661 Report

Quoted By: >>50912674

>>50912656
>usually you can win with just one lucky crit
Suggesting crits as a counter is retarded. Those can beat anything in theory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:27:35 No.50912674 Report

Quoted By: >>50912680

>>50912661
I didn't say it was a counter. Just that it happens and costs stall players an auto lost frequently. Stall has actual counters:
>Wish
>Taunt
>pivotmons
>Rocks
>Trapping

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:28:55 No.50912680 Report

Quoted By: >>50912688

>>50912674
>stall has counters
We know anon. But the point is that you have to build around it and make your team worse against not-stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:31:09 No.50912688 Report

Quoted By: >>50912696

>>50912680
No you don't. Just post your elo already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:34:15 No.50912696 Report

Quoted By: >>50912751 >>50914135

>>50912688
>OP is a 1500+ replay
>muh elo
If stall was shit why would anyone reach that in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:47:37 No.50912751 Report

Quoted By: >>50912754

>>50912696
I never said it was bad. Just that it is beatable. Like I said, the OP video had plenty of moments where a stall mon could have been knocked 0uf with the right guessing. Unfortunately, that team didn't any real answers to Blissey and had LO Rillaboom rather than a real Pivotmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:49:21 No.50912754 Report

Quoted By: >>50912785

>>50912751
>Just that it is beatable
We know.
> Unfortunately, that team didn't any real answers to Blissey and had LO Rillaboom rather than a real Pivotmon.
Because it didn't build for it. The reason for why Stall works is because you either expect it(and make your team less equipped to deal with other strats in the process) or lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 10:00:18 No.50912785 Report

Quoted By: >>50912788

>>50912754
No, it just didn't make sense to only have real physical attacker while the other takes a million turns just to get going...only to fail due to a burn anyways. You don't need much. Just answers to defensive pokemon which should be on your team anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 10:01:21 No.50912788 Report

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>>50912785
You can have an answer to a defensive mon, but that's not enough to deal with a stall team usually. Play the fucking game and find out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 10:10:43 No.50912825 Report

Quoted By: >>50912997

>50912788
Most stall teams get solod by Heatran. Play the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 10:53:22 No.50912997 Report

Quoted By: >>50920200

>>50912825
>being so mad you don't reply properly
You lost this one. Heatran is an answer to stall only if you make it one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 11:25:57 No.50913144 Report

Quoted By: >>50913151

>50912997
I'm just tried of giving (you)s to ignorant people. Stop posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 11:26:54 No.50913151 Report

Quoted By:

>>50913144
>he treats (You)s like upvotes
Go back and stay there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 11:31:43 No.50913178 Report

Quoted By: >>50913208 >>50913231

>GIVE ME ATTENTION
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 11:39:22 No.50913203 Report

Quoted By:

>turn 47
>no pokemon fainted
fanfiction meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 11:40:50 No.50913208 Report

Quoted By:

>>50913178
>he thinks (You)s are valuable
Unironically get off this site.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 11:50:14 No.50913231 Report

Quoted By: >>50913237

>>50913178
You realize that even by including the post number, you're still giving that anon attention. If you don't want to engage, you should probably stop engaging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 11:51:42 No.50913237 Report

Quoted By:

>>50913231
Maybe he should also realize that nobody cares about his precious attention, it's just funny watching him pissing and shitting himself over this argument for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 12:03:37 No.50913293 Report

Quoted By:

>Schizo is talking to himself for free internet points
Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 14:37:00 No.50914135 Report

Quoted By: >>50914592

>>50912696
1500 is absolutely nothing in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 15:45:37 No.50914592 Report

Quoted By: >>50914597

>>50914135
1500 higher than your E.L.O.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 15:46:10 No.50914597 Report

Quoted By: >>50915089

>>50914592
You mean 500. You start from 1000

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 16:45:54 No.50915089 Report

Quoted By: >>50915095

>>50914597
Yes, and your E.L.O. is so bad from losing so much that you went down to 0.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 16:46:32 No.50915095 Report

Quoted By: >>50917799

>>50915089
You can't go below 1000...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 16:48:45 No.50915118 Report

Quoted By: >>50915993

>>50909617
People build shit teams, that one had no way to break a stall team outside of Rilla + future sight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 18:17:26 No.50915993 Report

Quoted By:

>>50915118
This

The team relies too much on passive damage to chip away at opposing mons which is easy to withstand if half ur mons have regenerator and grassy terrain healing them. If you want a better team start with a wallbreaker and build a team around it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 22:22:47 No.50917799 Report

Quoted By:

>>50915095
I can't because I'm not a shitter. But you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 22:34:23 No.50917867 Report

Quoted By:

>>50909617
>https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1615292051
In all fairness the guy probably still could've won, he just gave up out of what seems to be frustration and disappointment due to his bird getting burned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 03:14:30 No.50919731 Report

Quoted By: >>50920171

>>50909617
Smoggie psyop.
They've convinced us that stall is powerful. They've banned the best anti-stall options.
People have given up hope on fighting back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 04:29:56 No.50920171 Report

Quoted By:

>>50919731
t. Doesn't play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 04:31:49 No.50920179 Report

Quoted By:

>>50909617
I love monkey so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 04:34:17 No.50920190 Report

Quoted By: >>50920895

>>50912558
>Stall is one of these strategies where you have to build your team around it.
Not true. If your team can't deal with walls or ways to check switching your team is ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 04:38:38 No.50920200 Report

Quoted By:

>>50912997
>Heatran is an answer to stall only if you make it one.
It's pretty great wallbreaking and trapper. Also great at taunting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 07:06:17 No.50920895 Report

Quoted By: >>50921161

>>50920190
You can have that and still lose to stall because you can't break all the walls.

Do you anons think for a minute when making those posts? Why would anyone run stall if anyone can deal with it so easily? Have you actually beaten a stall team with only one wallbreaker? And if you did, was it a 1200~ elo shitter or an actual competent player?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 07:21:15 No.50920958 Report

Quoted By: >>50920981 >>50921157

>>50909617
>bring a pokemon with taunt and recovery
>stall teams immediately kneel
it's just that easy folks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 07:26:20 No.50920981 Report

Quoted By: >>50920988

>>50920958
Stalling against Stall isn't so effective because an entire team does it better. The exception is having Ditto because infinite PP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 07:27:40 No.50920988 Report

Quoted By: >>50921034 >>50921478

>>50920981
>he thinks that's a stall tactic
oh man for a second i forgot everyone here is complete and utter retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 07:40:04 No.50921034 Report

Quoted By: >>50921073

>>50920988
Taunt + Recovery is either stall or a setup, but the second case is also not so useful because Stall teams run Unaware.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 07:45:34 No.50921055 Report

Quoted By:

>>50909888
>Rage Powder
>STAB
>Protect
>*Incineroar's Parting Shot TM*
>Repeat
VGCuckolds...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 07:50:08 No.50921073 Report

Quoted By: >>50921099

>>50921034
Taunt has always been anti-stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 07:56:32 No.50921099 Report

Quoted By:

>>50921073
Sure, but Taunt alone is barely enough. The only thing that can come close to soloing a stall team is a Heatran, but is still one specifically built for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 08:18:01 No.50921157 Report

Quoted By:

>>50920958
There's also statusing them, removing items or just tricking a choice item on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 08:19:02 No.50921161 Report

Quoted By:

>>50920895
>Why would anyone run stall if anyone can deal with it so easily?
Because people are ass at offense, even more so then stall surprisingly considering in the case of Stall the room for error is pretty big.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 09:56:24 No.50921478 Report

Quoted By:

>>50920988
If it's not attacking, it's stall, chud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 10:03:05 No.50921505 Report

Quoted By: >>50921531

>>50912442
this post sounds retarded yet it's the best statement on stall in Gen 8

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Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 10:13:37 No.50921530 Report

Quoted By:

>>50909617
>The server is restarting soon.
>Please finish your battles quickly. No new battles can be started until the server resets in a few minutes.
>staff also wants the timer to be on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 10:13:53 No.50921531 Report

Quoted By:

>>50921505
Could you elaborate on that?
It seems like a paradox.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 16:04:58 No.50923196 Report

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Stall bad because it ruins Clef's reputation. This is supposed to be a versatile mon jack-of-all-trades, not a stallmon.

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