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>>50918098
The only one of those that's "physical" is Lick. There's nothing physical about making a scary projection of yourself, or launching a fist made of shadows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:22:01 No.50918134 Report

Quoted By: >>50918185 >>50918194

>>50918098
why is ice PUNCH special? checkmate boomie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:25:39 No.50918156 Report

Quoted By: >>50918185

>>50918098
That's why gen 2 Crunch and Bite are Special, right? Or the elemental punches? Or Waterfall? I can go on for literally dozens of examples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:27:18 No.50918172 Report

Quoted By: >>50918200 >>50918220

>>50918133
>The only one of those that's "physical" is Lick.
Great, now tell us which Ghost moves were in Gen 1, retarded zoomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:29:26 No.50918182 Report

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>>50918065
They wanted to balance Gengar by making both of his STAB types bad for him to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:29:41 No.50918185 Report

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>>50918133
>>50918134
>>50918156
Basically why the Split was necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:30:32 No.50918190 Report

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>>50918065
Gamefreak didn't give a fuck about competitive back then so whatever quirks existed in gen 1 was completely accidental.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:30:43 No.50918194 Report

Quoted By: >>50918204

>>50918134
>why is ICE punch special?
gee wiz I wonder why!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:31:55 No.50918200 Report

Quoted By: >>50923571

>>50918172
Lick can also be made from shadows like Shadow Punch, Shadow Ball, etc...
So could have been special like the Elemental Punches, Bite and Crunch, etc...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:32:15 No.50918204 Report

Quoted By: >>50918243

>>50918194
>but SHADOW punch is physical because uh.. because uh.... it just is, okay!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:34:03 No.50918220 Report

Quoted By: >>50918255

>>50918172
If Dragon Rage is enough for Dragon to be Special, Night Shade's enough for Ghost to be as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:37:58 No.50918243 Report

Quoted By: >>50918247

>>50918204
Correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:38:26 No.50918247 Report

Quoted By: >>50918253

>>50918243
I accept your concession, boomie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:39:24 No.50918253 Report

Quoted By: >>50918260

>>50918247
Ghost = physical
Ice = special

You must be retarded if you don't get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:39:41 No.50918255 Report

Quoted By: >>50920556

>>50918220
Woah there was a Dragon version of Lick in gen 1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:40:03 No.50918260 Report

Quoted By: >>50918262

>>50918253
>because.. it just is, okay!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:40:26 No.50918262 Report

Quoted By: >>50918276

>>50918260
I'm not sure what you're missing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:41:10 No.50918269 Report

Quoted By: >>50918282 >>50918302

>>50918065
At first I thought it was for it to be a counter to the Psychic type, but I forgot that Ghost types don't effect Psychic types in Gen 1
Then I thought it was to balance out the amount of physical and special types in Gen 1, but then I learned there are actually more physical types in Gen 1
Now I just think it was arbitrary and there is no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:41:52 No.50918276 Report

Quoted By: >>50918291

>>50918262
Feel free to keep gaslighting boomie, but you lost, and the split proves it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:42:42 No.50918282 Report

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>>50918269
>making lick physical is arbitrary

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:43:54 No.50918291 Report

Quoted By: >>50918314

>>50918276
>shadow punch is still physical
You're actually autistic aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:44:59 No.50918299 Report

Quoted By: >>50918327 >>50923326

>Ghost is physical because of Shadow PUNCH
>Ignore that there were several other punch moves that weren't physical
deluded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:45:10 No.50918302 Report

Quoted By: >>50918313 >>50918319

>>50918269
>but I forgot that Ghost types don't effect Psychic types in Gen 1

That was a glitch. It's stated in-game by a trainer in Sabrina's gym that Psychic is weak to Ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:46:23 No.50918313 Report

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>>50918302
If that's the case then I think it was done to counter psychic, but then Bug was also physical in Gen 1 so I don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:46:24 No.50918314 Report

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>>50918291
Imagine being this disingenuous
Boomers are a plague

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:47:09 No.50918319 Report

Quoted By: >>50918349 >>50920556

>>50918302
It wasn't a glitch. It's explicitly programmed that way.
https://www.dragonflycave.com/experimentation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:48:10 No.50918327 Report

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>>50918299
Not ignoring when you consider that those types have tons of other moves that aren't punches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:50:11 No.50918349 Report

Quoted By: >>50918356

>>50918319
All Gen 1 media explicitly said that Psychic was weak to Ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:50:38 No.50918356 Report

Quoted By: >>50918363

>>50918349
Yeah, but they programmed the game differently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:51:38 No.50918363 Report

Quoted By: >>50918395

>>50918356
They didn't program it that way, it's a glitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:53:07 No.50918378 Report

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>>50918065
Imagine bitching about 20+ year old games, move on

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:54:11 No.50918391 Report

Quoted By: >>50918399 >>50918433 >>50918442 >>50923671

>>50918065
because gen 1 was a broken piece of dogshit that barely functioned

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:54:38 No.50918395 Report

Quoted By: >>50923591

>>50918363
The type table was datamined, anon. Check the link.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:55:11 No.50918399 Report

Quoted By: >>50918411

>>50918391
I dunno man, people in 1998 thought it was great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:56:03 No.50918411 Report

Quoted By: >>50918440

>>50918399
>people
you mean little kids that didn't know any better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:58:01 No.50918433 Report

Quoted By: >>50918439

>>50918391
t. never played a gen 1 game in his post-9/11 life

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:58:53 No.50918439 Report

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>>50918433
and here comes the asshurt nostalgia-blinded faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:59:25 No.50918440 Report

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>>50918411
Virtually every review was positive. The lowest I can think of was Nintendo Powers 7.2 which is a decent score, plus they generally were stricter on scores. You're on the board dedicated to what this game spawned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jul 2022 23:59:41 No.50918442 Report

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>>50918391
okay zoomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 00:03:44 No.50918470 Report

Quoted By: >>50918701

>>50918065
Why shouldn't it have been?
>>50918098
Is a good explanation for ghost being physical.
>but muh punches
Ice, Electric, and Fire all had several other attacking moves that were clearly not physical like ice beam, thunder, ember. Ghost had nothing like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 00:32:46 No.50918701 Report

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>>50918098
>>50918470
>astonish
Gen 3
>Shadow Punch
Gen 3
>Lick
Shouldn't be Ghost type to begin with, Night Shade actually makes sense as a Ghost type move and if fucking Dragon Rage was enough to make Dragon special pre-split why not NS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 05:38:18 No.50920519 Report

Quoted By: >>50920548

>>50918098
>Why are Bite, Beat Up, Crunch, Thief, Feint Attack, Pursuit, Payback special?
Use your brain for once, zoomer larping as boomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 05:44:29 No.50920548 Report

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>>50920519
>has to change the subject to dark type because he knows he's wrong
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 05:45:51 No.50920556 Report

Quoted By: >>50920562

>>50918255
Woah Lick counts as more than 1 move in gen 1?
>>50918319
An error is still an error, anon. It's explicitly stated and consistently reaffirmed in multimedia how the type interaction was supposed to work, and it was subsequently fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 05:47:09 No.50920562 Report

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>>50920556
>Woah Lick counts as more than 1 move in gen 1?
It doesn't need to count as more than 1 move. The fact that it exists means that it makes more sense for ghost to be physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 11:33:09 No.50921826 Report

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>>50918065
Why was dragon special pre-split

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 12:45:57 No.50922154 Report

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Ghosts may be phantasmal but they attack physically in all media and legends I can think of. They strangle or scratch you or throw objects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 16:23:22 No.50923326 Report

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>>50918299
Never mind that Ghost was physical before Shadow Punch existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 16:59:08 No.50923571 Report

Quoted By: >>50923630

>>50918200
>EvEryThiNg Is MaDE oF ShaDoWS~

No retard, that's your fucking imagination.
Lick is literally lick.
Shadow Punch is literally punch.
Astonish is jumping and scaring your opponent.
Shadow Ball was more like a cannon ball or bomb in its earliest depictions, had more physical attributes to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:02:52 No.50923591 Report

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>>50918395
> Literally fucking mistake.
> It WaS SuPpoSSed To BE THaT wAy~!!!

Fucking idiot, a goddamn moron.
All media, included statements in fucking game, are talking about Ghost is supposed to be SE against against Psychic and the data in game is programmed wrong due to an oversight. It's not "glitch" because that's completely different term but it is an error and pretending that this is how it was supposed to be is fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:10:23 No.50923629 Report

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>>50918065
Because the only Ghost Move that didn't deal fixed damage was Lick, which is a Physical Action.
And then Dark came and it was the Special-Attacking Type despite its primary moves being Bite, Crunch and Feint Attack, because they didn't want to make it TOO blatant that Dark was literally "Ghost but better" in terms of offenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:10:25 No.50923630 Report

Quoted By: >>50923639

>>50923571
The only one of those that existed when Ghost type was introduced was Lick, so they have no influence on Ghost's damage type logic, and Lick has no reason to be Ghost-type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:11:49 No.50923639 Report

Quoted By: >>50923711

>>50923630
>the main thing that the only ghost in the game is known for using and is associated with creepiness has no reason to be ghost type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:16:20 No.50923671 Report

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>>50918391
Yet it was successful enough to sell over a million copies in Japan and drive a businessman like Ishihara to pursue expanding the game into a multimedia franchise before peddling it to Nintendo of America under the insistence that it WILL succeed overseas in its current state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:22:54 No.50923711 Report

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>>50923639
>>the main thing that the only ghost in the game is known for using

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Gastly_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Pok.C3.A9dex_entries_2
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:26:07 No.50923737 Report

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>>50918098
>One good example with a bunch of gen 3 moves
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:27:11 No.50923743 Report

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>>50918119
Drip

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:33:15 No.50923783 Report

Quoted By: >>50923904

>>50918282
Lick's damage is due to its toxins spirital energy, not because their tongue is strong, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Jul 2022 17:54:21 No.50923904 Report

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>>50923783
>Prior to changes in Generation IV, all damaging Poison-type moves were physical
Really not helping your case here.

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