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Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:14:18 No.50974231 View View Reply Original Report

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>Ice/Rock
For what purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:15:50 No.50974240 Report

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>>50974231
Pokémon have types assigned to them based on their characteristics.
Hisui is a mountainous region filled with hard rock, which the Bergmite absorb into their bodies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:16:02 No.50974242 Report

Quoted By: >>50974923

>>50974231
Some Pokemon need do be objectively worthless to make CHARIZARD look better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:16:06 No.50974243 Report

Quoted By: >>50974261 >>50974551 >>50974642

>>50974231
regionals have to be a different type, there isn't one that makes much more sense. Steel could've worked I guess but it has just as many weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:16:40 No.50974245 Report

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it's cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:16:51 No.50974246 Report

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>>50974231
It went extinct for a reason, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:19:39 No.50974261 Report

Quoted By: >>50974287 >>50974305 >>50974327

>>50974243
Ice/Ground is a good type combination, Ice/Rock is completely useless.
They could've made it a super tanky Mamoswine, instead they made it a pile of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:23:08 No.50974287 Report

Quoted By: >>50974312 >>50974330 >>50974866 >>50979237

>>50974261
>ice/ground
>good
>CHARMANDER USED EMBER, MAMOSWINE IS DEAD XD

HOLY FUCK ?VP? HAS SOME RETARDED TAKES

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:24:58 No.50974305 Report

Quoted By: >>50975711

>>50974261
Ice/Rock could work on a fast glass canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:25:44 No.50974312 Report

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>>50974287
Less rock types is better for Charizard fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:27:41 No.50974327 Report

Quoted By: >>50974342

>>50974261
Hisuian Avalugg is based on mountainous rock covered in ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:27:45 No.50974330 Report

Quoted By: >>50974345

>>50974287
>"a type having a weakness=bad"
>Thick Fat
>Mamoswine outspeeds Charmander and EQs it
Never change, based retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:29:25 No.50974342 Report

Quoted By: >>50975111 >>50975182 >>50979153

>>50974327
>Hisuian Avalugg is based
It really isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:29:51 No.50974345 Report

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>>50974330
wow using a fully evolved pokemon against a charmander your so brave i bet you have sex and friends XD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:33:27 No.50974380 Report

Quoted By: >>50974556

It's because it's meant to be a glacier instead of an iceberg, but you lot either failed geography or elected to avoid it seemingly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:39:07 No.50974437 Report

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Worst regional form. Barely any different from the original and a shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:40:02 No.50974440 Report

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>>50974231
For the purpose of dieing to fighting type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:51:27 No.50974536 Report

Quoted By: >>50975024

>>50974231
I like its design.
I hope they make some changes for SV to make it usable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:52:51 No.50974551 Report

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>>50974243
Ice/Steel is worse than mono-Steel but I think it's still better than mono-Ice.
Ice/Rock is worse than both mono-Ice and mono-Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:53:55 No.50974556 Report

Quoted By: >>50975154

>>50974380
this.
not everything has to be made viable for comp. some things are just made to fit the theme theyre based on

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jul 2022 23:54:28 No.50974561 Report

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>>50974231
>regional forms aren't just recolor-

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:03:36 No.50974642 Report

Quoted By: >>50974973

>>50974243

>regionals have to be a different type
>Basculin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:29:15 No.50974866 Report

Quoted By: >>50974885

>>50974287
>his mamoswine is weak to fire
Embarrassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:31:24 No.50974885 Report

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>>50974866
>her mamoswine is weak to taunt
Embarrassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:35:00 No.50974916 Report

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they wanted to prove that rock/steel isn't the worst defensive type combination

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:35:47 No.50974923 Report

Quoted By: >>50974938 >>50974948

>>50974242
Ironically, adding rock type to Avalugg gives it a better Charizard matchup, not worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:37:55 No.50974938 Report

Quoted By: >>50975050

>>50974923
>charizard used focus blast
>it's ultra-effective
>avalugg was extinct

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:39:11 No.50974948 Report

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>>50974923
>Charizard uses brick break
Actually, does Charizard even use any fighting moves in his sets?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:42:25 No.50974973 Report

Quoted By: >>50977051

>>50974642
Basculin's regional form is technically just called "White Stripe Basculin" and not "Hisuian Basculin"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:50:14 No.50975024 Report

Quoted By:

>>50974536
>I hope they make some changes for SV to make it usable
I wouldn't have any hopes considering Game Freak.

>50974246
(You)

>>50974948
I think it has an OU moveset with Focus Miss for Swooshie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:53:53 No.50975050 Report

Quoted By: >>50975062

>>50974938
Avalugg has Sturdy and can hit shillzard with a rock move

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:55:04 No.50975062 Report

Quoted By: >>50975074

>>50975050
Game Freak replaced Sturdy with Strong Jaw for the Hisuian form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:55:27 No.50975065 Report

Quoted By: >>50975092 >>50975118

I love it and hope it gets into SV, but Christ does literally everything body this fucking thing. PLA was worse too because it's so godamn slow any battle with more than two pokemon is guaranteed to be a loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:56:24 No.50975074 Report

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>>50975062
No they replaced Own Tempo.
Sturdy is still in the data

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 00:57:54 No.50975092 Report

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>>50975065
>literally everything body this fucking thing.
*Aurorus used Ancient Power*
*It's super effective!*
*Avalugg fainted*
Nothin' personnel, kid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 01:00:48 No.50975111 Report

Quoted By: >>50975182

>>50974342
this. Once again fan artists shit on gamefreak

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 01:01:54 No.50975118 Report

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>>50975065
Yea I'm of the same opinion as you.
I hope they make it viable in some way

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 01:06:42 No.50975154 Report

Quoted By: >>50975218

>>50974556
>some things are just made to fit the theme theyre based on
I guess, but it just seems awfully convenient that "Theme" never seems to handicap shillmons like CHARIZARD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 01:10:37 No.50975182 Report

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>>50975111
>>50974342
The design we received is very beautiful, it looks majestic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 01:17:28 No.50975218 Report

Quoted By: >>50975229

>>50975154
Charizard being Fire/Flying is absolutely a handicap.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 01:20:07 No.50975229 Report

Quoted By: >>50975277 >>50976984

>>50975218
>Charizard being Fire/Flying is absolutely a handic-

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 01:28:56 No.50975277 Report

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>>50975229
Better hope that Focus Miss becomes Focus Blast instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 02:57:14 No.50975711 Report

Quoted By: >>50975800 >>50977246 >>50978508 >>50979203

>>50974305
No, it wouldn't. Ice/Rock is the worst type of all time. Glass cannons would get BTFO by any priority and the STAB combo doesn't even break past steels, defensive pokemon can't function because the type dies to anything. It's so bad it's not even good in Inverse Battles where Ice is good. What a shit typing, what an absolute garbage heap, this shit makes Ledian look good, what were they thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:13:04 No.50975800 Report

Quoted By: >>50975838 >>50975851

>>50975711
>mention that rock/ice isn't super effective against steel
>mention ledian
Say all the things you want about Aurorus and Hisuian Avalugg but at least they have an actual attacking stat (99 Special Attack for Aurorus and 127 Attack for Hisuian Avalugg) while Ledian is fucked with 35 Attack and 55 Special Attack.

Either way Game Freak can kiss my ass and if I had my way then all the shitmons and shitty typings would be buffed in a reasonable fashion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:19:37 No.50975838 Report

Quoted By: >>50975889

>>50975800
It's meant to be an early-game shitmon bug anon. Sorry you're too autistic to read a room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:21:32 No.50975851 Report

Quoted By: >>50975926

>>50975800
I'm exaggerating a bit, but both types being resisted by steel does kinda suck since coverage moves aren't always strong enough to break through. I mainly mention that for a theoretical Ice/Rock type with high speed would still have a ton of problems. Aurorus does suck, but it has weather at least. I'm more sour on Hisuian Avalugg because the original isn't good but at least it has niche situations where it could shine. But this thing, they somehow made something with that stat spread one of the worst fully evolved pokemon of all time just by adding Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:27:18 No.50975889 Report

Quoted By: >>50975897

>>50975838
So are Butterfee and Beedrill, but they got special snow flake forms and far higher attackign stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:29:11 No.50975897 Report

Quoted By: >>50975988

>>50975889
>kanto shilmon being more thought of than johto shitmon
Just like the fans of those games to Game Freak. Funny that....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:34:36 No.50975926 Report

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>>50975851
>but it has weather at least
Also has:
- Freeze-Dry
- Thunderbolt and Thunder (the coveted "BoltBeam" combo, or Blizzard/Thunder if feeling spicy)
- Aurora Veil
- Thunder Wave
- Nature Power
- Weather Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:45:48 No.50975988 Report

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>>50975897
Nah man, Ariados is far better than Ledian, Ledian just sucks, they didn't even buff it when (almost) all the other early bugs got a 10 points buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:47:58 No.50975999 Report

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>>50974231
I feel like they only made him to be a late game huge bossmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:49:04 No.50976007 Report

Quoted By:

>>50974231
didn't even know it existed lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 03:50:07 No.50976012 Report

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>>50974231
punch haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 07:33:24 No.50976984 Report

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>>50975229
>being Fire/Flying isn't a handicap because you can just use HDB!
>having no legs isn't a handicap because you can just use a wheelchair!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 07:52:25 No.50977051 Report

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>>50974973
It is called Hisuian Basculin in the TCG at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 08:32:46 No.50977180 Report

Quoted By: >>50977580

>>50974231
FOR LORE. Its actually amazing idea that ice covered moutainous mon changes to pure ice to get rid of the weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 08:53:58 No.50977246 Report

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>>50975711
Ice shard and accelrock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 09:05:40 No.50977274 Report

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Its to protect the ice from melting
>all the other new weaknesses
those are nonsense and bad game design

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 10:19:01 No.50977580 Report

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>>50977180
If he wanted to be a better type why didn't he just kill himself and become an Ice/Ghost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 11:46:40 No.50978027 Report

Quoted By: >>50978508

Rock/Ice could actually fuck a lot of pokemon up if it was a fast physical attacker. Which is why that will never happen.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 12:02:01 No.50978115 Report

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>>50974231
Lore probably.
Ice and rocks are a common combination in nature

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 12:15:00 No.50978199 Report

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>>50974231
Glaciers are made of ice and displaced rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 13:03:05 No.50978508 Report

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>>50978027
See >>50975711

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 14:35:16 No.50979153 Report

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>>50974342
>japanese name is crebase

Look again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 14:41:12 No.50979203 Report

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>>50975711
All they'd have to do is give it Earthquake which is normal for most fully evolved mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 14:45:01 No.50979237 Report

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>>50974287
>?VP?
Try hitting the Caps Lock key that's above your Shift key

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 14:48:52 No.50979273 Report

Quoted By: >>50979290

>New skill that automatically places Stealth Rocks.
Is it usable now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 14:50:11 No.50979290 Report

Quoted By: >>50979344

>>50979273
It's ubers now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jul 2022 14:57:00 No.50979344 Report

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>>50979290
It would be quite balanced given the bad defensive type and the non-existent Special Def.
I hope they make this buff for my Avalugg

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