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Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:39:00 No.50983919 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50983938 >>50983950 >>50984000 >>50984016 >>50984080 >>50984171 >>50984348 >>50985265 >>50985710

Switching is now negative priority. How does this affect both Smogon and VGC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:40:57 No.50983938 Report

Quoted By: >>50983957

>>50983919
Anything that nerfs fast pokemon is good in my book

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:42:57 No.50983950 Report

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>>50983919
fast frail attackers become much better because you can safely bring them in to nuke someone and then whatever happens happens, it already did its job
fas frail attackers with u-turn become godlike because they switch in for free and then flee for free

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:43:54 No.50983957 Report

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>>50983938
This is a buff to fast, fragile pokemon. It makes it easier to switch in a glass cannon sweeper, and harder to switch in a counter to your opponent's sweeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:46:47 No.50983983 Report

Quoted By: >>50983999 >>50984138 >>50984155 >>50984252 >>50985286

Switching is fucking dumb..

Imagine being in a battle, directing two monsters fighting 'til one of them loses consciousness and has to go to the hospital, and then your opponent just like, recalls his monster like " Uh sorry dude hold up let me switch ok? just need to find the pokeball uhhh"

like ofcourse it should be negative priority
switching should be punished heavily

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:48:38 No.50983999 Report

Quoted By: >>50984018

>>50983983
>switching should be punished heavily
it was before boots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:48:43 No.50984000 Report

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>>50983919
Switching should take half hp

When you switch you don't get to choose what you send out

There i fixed it for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:50:24 No.50984016 Report

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>>50983919
Team up with Therain Landorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:50:41 No.50984018 Report

Quoted By: >>50986398

>>50983999
well it clearly wasnt enough because smogon games last like 30 turns before a mon is KOd because there is so muvh switching
maybe just remove switching entirely or have a finite number of switches

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 00:59:40 No.50984080 Report

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>>50983919
There should be a trick room-style move that reverses priority for 4 turns.
>switching becomes -7
>helping hand becomes -5
>protect, detect, etc. become -4
>fake out becomes -3
>extreme speed, ally switch, follow me, etc. become -2
>quick attack, aqua jet, bullet punch, etc. become -1
>0 priority moves remain 0
>vital throw becomes +1
>focus punch becomes +3
>avalanche and revenge become +4
>counter and mirror coat become +5
>circle throw, dragon tail, roar, teleport, etc. become +6
>trick room becomes +7
>moves affected by prankster, gale wings or triage all become negative priority
>queenly majesty, quick guard and psychic terrain would block dragon tail, but not shadow sneak
>switching happens at the very end of the turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:05:55 No.50984138 Report

Quoted By: >>50984195

>>50983983
>switching should be punished heavily
Were you not around for the entirety of gens 2 - 4? Team preview all but killed the concept of suicide leads

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:08:26 No.50984155 Report

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>>50983983
Regenerator and Boots killed a lot of the risk and reward surrounding switching. Pokemon are now getting free HP even if every hazard is out on the field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:10:13 No.50984171 Report

Quoted By: >>50985301

>>50983919
How important is Switching in VGC? Not much of a doubles guy so I'm not sure if it carries that much weight in that format?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:13:11 No.50984195 Report

Quoted By: >>50984331

>>50984138
team preview is fucking dumb

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:14:42 No.50984207 Report

Quoted By: >>50984360

Switching being negative priority defeats the purpose of switching.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:21:35 No.50984252 Report

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>>50983983

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:31:48 No.50984331 Report

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>>50984195
>introduce a mon which would have been disastrous before team preview IN THE SAME GENERATION you introduce it
bravo gamefreak

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:35:41 No.50984348 Report

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>>50983919
That would be so much more fun holy moly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 01:37:31 No.50984360 Report

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>>50984207
this
without priority, switching is pointless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 04:40:16 No.50985265 Report

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>>50983919
U-Turn becomes even more busted, and pairs of bulky mons and fast frail attackers dominate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 04:44:24 No.50985286 Report

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>>50983983
Switching IS punished heavily this is exclusively a Smogon problem because "lol 6 Pokemon and anything that can threaten a steel/water/fairy core by itself is banned"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 04:44:44 No.50985289 Report

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>switching is broke-

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 04:46:12 No.50985301 Report

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>>50984171
People use parting shot/U turn to swap sometimes and hard switching in intimidate is necessary sometimes as well as switching to get a fake out. But just hard switching to tank an attack is not common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 04:48:46 No.50985312 Report

Quoted By: >>50988634

Nerfing switching just makes the game rock-paper-scissors. If you lead a fire type and enemy leads a water type, enjoy not being able to do anything and just lose. Sure you send out a grass type to revenge KO the water, but then they send out their fire to revenge your grass and repeat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 06:37:06 No.50985710 Report

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>>50983919
Whole comp 1v1 scene is all switching
Which is why do few people play it lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 08:59:22 No.50986127 Report

Quoted By: >>50986346

Fucks over weaker Pokémon more than the stronger ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 10:10:55 No.50986346 Report

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>>50986127
proof?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 10:29:56 No.50986398 Report

Quoted By: >>50988040

>>50984018
For what's worth. The g9 gimmick, the crystal thing that gives you an extra stab, can be used once on a pokemon and if you switch, it reverts back. That should make people switch less

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 15:53:06 No.50988040 Report

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>>50986398
The question is, what kind of mon has the kind of longevity to pull that off, and the power to really benefit from that extra STAB?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 17:14:31 No.50988634 Report

Quoted By: >>50990018

>>50985312
So just like in the anime?
Yeah I'll take that over stall shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jul 2022 20:28:26 No.50990018 Report

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>>50988634
No, if it was like the anime, type matchups wouldn't exist.

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