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Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:15:44 No.51038064 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51038072 >>51038084 >>51038102 >>51038117 >>51038384 >>51038391 >>51038451 >>51042109 >>51043397

>Kanto - Unova
3 generations in between
>Unova - Gen 9 region
3 generations in between
We are supposedly getting a lot of new mons. I unironically would like to see dex tropes and archetypes revisited

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:17:46 No.51038072 Report

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>>51038064
So we're gonna have another Drill-based Pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:20:15 No.51038084 Report

Quoted By: >>51038117 >>51038123 >>51038451 >>51039937

>>51038064
Always wondered...
Golem -> Gigalith
Machamp -> Conkeldurr
Alakazam -> Reuniclus?
Gengar -> Chandelure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:23:37 No.51038102 Report

Quoted By: >>51038117

>>51038064
Between those gens, we got Mega Evolution, regional forms, and the return of cross gen evolutions, with Gen 9 bringing another variant of reintroducing old Pokemon as something new.
That is what they're aiming for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:28:09 No.51038117 Report

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>>51038064
>>51038102
Unova is basically convergent evolution without the label. Whatever this new gen's gimmick is, I hope it covers the counterparts like >>51038084

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:28:52 No.51038123 Report

Quoted By: >>51038195 >>51038206

>>51038084
Reuniclus is one part of a version exclusive pair, and Chandelure uses an evolution stone. The top two are the only ones that fit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:40:54 No.51038195 Report

Quoted By: >>51038213

>>51038123
but it wasn`t until gen 5 we finally got a three-staged ghost line in the same gen. Dusknoir is like an afterthought. psychic line was also done in Hoenn but gen 3 always felt soft-reboot of kanto dex as well in many parts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:43:09 No.51038206 Report

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>>51038123
Maybe Gen 9 could give us the missing ones for Gengar and Alakazam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:44:37 No.51038213 Report

Quoted By: >>51038219

>>51038195
>same type = knockoff
i hate /vp/edoes....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:45:58 No.51038219 Report

Quoted By: >>51038225

>>51038213
nice strawman. never said knock off and never meant anything negative about it. actually wish for similar lines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 13:47:28 No.51038225 Report

Quoted By: >>51038478

>>51038219
Apologies, but reboot isn't even the right word either. That implies it's trying to be like the first of it's type and not just another mon of that same type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 14:17:32 No.51038384 Report

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>>51038064
3 generations in between
This fandom is so autistic it can’t simply say 4 generations later

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 14:19:45 No.51038391 Report

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>>51038064
> unironically would like to see dex tropes and archetypes revisited
Why? Unova did that and everyone possess their panties and cried.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 14:28:13 No.51038451 Report

Quoted By: >>51038468 >>51038496 >>51038782

>>51038064
Older Pokemon games are better precisely because they followed and refined the tropes and formulas set by the first generation. Trying to change that formula and somehow appeal to a new audience is what ruined Pokemon.

>>51038084
5th gen was an intentional "remake" or reimagination of the first generation. Similarly;
Klinklang -> Magneton/zone
Musharna -> Clefable
Zebstrika -> Rapidash
Swoobat -> Golbat
Audino -> Chansey
Throw/Sawk -> Hitmonlee/chan
Garbodor -> Muk

And so on. Just compare the dex for both generations. Down to the number of Pokemon in them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 14:32:04 No.51038468 Report

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>>51038451
>Musharna -> Clefable
I thought it was a reference to Cubone from the first game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 14:33:41 No.51038478 Report

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>>51038225
yea my fault for poor word choice. just couldn't expound it. for me a region feels more fully fleshed out if it has a good amount of unique mons that fulfill a lot of niche ecologically and competitively

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 14:37:16 No.51038496 Report

Quoted By: >>51038712

>>51038451
Wouldn't Musharna be Hypno? They have the same inepiration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 15:26:14 No.51038712 Report

Quoted By: >>51042142

>>51038496
Might be, but regardless, they almost all have counterparts in 1st gen. There's even small details like Transform being available to only Ditto and Mew in 1st gen, and in 5th gen two pokemon, Zorua and Zoroark, being canonically able to transform etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 15:53:59 No.51038782 Report

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>>51038451
>Older Pokemon games are better precisely because they followed and refined the tropes and formulas set by the first generation. Trying to change that formula and somehow appeal to a new audience is what ruined Pokemon.
Pray tell what is the context of older games. I can't figure out if you are against the dex archetypes, or against generational gimmicks starting with megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 18:36:29 No.51039937 Report

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>>51038084
>Machamp -> Conkeldurr
I really really want another family for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 00:44:53 No.51042109 Report

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>>51038064
Yes please

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 00:49:39 No.51042142 Report

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>>51038712
>There's even small details like Transform being available to only Ditto and Mew in 1st gen, and in 5th gen two pokemon, Zorua and Zoroark, being canonically able to transform etc.
This is a coincidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:04:37 No.51043397 Report

Quoted By: >>51045190

>>51038064
I think the reason Unova got so many new Pokemon was because it was the first region in a different country.
America has different wildlife than Japan, so the Pokemon appearing in the wild should be different.
Gamefreak dropped that concept in only half a generation. I sincerely doubt they'll be bringing it back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 11:25:22 No.51045190 Report

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>>51043397
>Gamefreak dropped that concept in only half a generation. I sincerely doubt they'll be bringing it back.
Just like how their new gimmicks per generation also gets dropped

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