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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:06:09 No.51099434 View View Reply Original Report

IT'S JUST FUCKING OLD HIDDEN POWER

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:06:46 No.51099459 Report

Quoted By: >>51099505 >>51099593 >>51100119 >>51101885 >>51104537 >>51107200

not really. They actually made it well designed this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:07:33 No.51099494 Report

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There wasn't Normal HP. Also if the off-type ones are actually rare, even more of a pain to get correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:07:49 No.51099505 Report

Quoted By: >>51100073 >>51108229

>>51099459
Bro it's literally hidden power with a retarded hat. fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:07:55 No.51099509 Report

Quoted By: >>51099550 >>51099970 >>51100124 >>51105182 >>51107200

>Makes 99% of caught Pokémon unusable because they don't have a good tera type.

Nothing personnel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:09:01 No.51099550 Report

Quoted By: >>51113185

>>51099509
You can change it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:09:09 No.51099559 Report

Quoted By: >>51102937

>>51099434
Just like ZMoves were Gems. We can expect other old thing upgraded into gimmick.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:09:29 No.51099572 Report

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>>51099434
Not even worth pirating

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:09:59 No.51099593 Report

Quoted By: >>51099623

>>51099459
>It's the same but it's new so it's better
kill yourself. I bet you're the type to cry about HP too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:10:03 No.51099594 Report

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>>51099434
Hidden Power doesn't change your mon's type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:10:40 No.51099617 Report

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>>51099434
This is broken for electric types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:10:55 No.51099623 Report

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>>51099593
>>It's the same
I too am an illiterate retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:11:13 No.51099636 Report

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>delta species
fuck yeah this is awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:11:55 No.51099668 Report

Quoted By: >>51100666 >>51101822

>>51099434
>Somewhere at GameFreak
>”You know what we hate? Those dang injectors!”
>”I know, let’s punish those guys by creating a hidden typing Pokemon have that are random! That’ll show them”
>Punishes only the rare legitimatekeks while doing nothing against injectorchad.
Bravo GameFreak!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:18:51 No.51099970 Report

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>>51099509
based and eugenics-pilled

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:22:06 No.51100035 Report

Quoted By: >>51101387 >>51104416 >>51105903 >>51106172 >>51107128 >>51111575

>>51099434
>Normal type Shedinja

Shedinja confirmed to not be part of the region I guess UNLESS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:23:07 No.51100073 Report

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>>51099505
But you don't automatically get a move of that typing. The Pokemon still needs to learn an Ice type move, it isn't just HP Ice access for every Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:24:05 No.51100119 Report

Quoted By: >>51100261

>>51099459
>They made it well designed this time
How? They removed an interesting move and turned it into a one-off gimmick never to be seen again when the next gen comes out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:24:09 No.51100124 Report

Quoted By: >>51101047

>>51099509
You will be able to change it (in the DLC)

Also only one of your Pokemon necessarily needs to Terastalize, your other Pokemon aren't worthless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:26:39 No.51100240 Report

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>>51099434
It's dynamax attacks but weaker and one of them gets extra stab, kinda interesting meta wise but really bland flavor wise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:27:17 No.51100261 Report

Quoted By: >>51100372 >>51104737

>>51100119
>They removed an interesting move
nothing about hidden power is interesting, all it does is give pokemon more coverage than they actually deserve and make the game an unpredictable retarded mess

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:27:32 No.51100269 Report

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>>51099434
>I never played a pokemon game but my youtube reaction channel needs its daily meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:28:36 No.51100304 Report

Quoted By: >>51105321

>this is the only "difference" for the next game
Holy fuck why do you people still buy this actual shovelware? Pokegamefags are literally locked in the cuck shed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:30:00 No.51100372 Report

Quoted By: >>51101602 >>51101805

>>51100261
As opposed to any Pokemon can become literally any type now with this new gimmick and you have no idea of knowing which type until after they've transformed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:32:59 No.51100489 Report

Quoted By: >>51102261

I can see the anime using this for the first time.
>Ash vs some random trainer that will be his traveling buddy for that series
>Ash sends out Pikachu, enemy sends out a Pelipper
>Pikachu is clearly going to win because it has the type adva-
>Pelipper's Terastallizes! Its type is now Ground!
>"PIKA?!"
>Ash still wins, but the tables turned enough to make him sweat
Meanwhile, in the games, we'll just get a temporary boost that's not that impactful outside of extreme scenarios and high tier autism minmaxing for Smogon-regulated battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:37:03 No.51100666 Report

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>>51099668
Gamefreak doesn't care about injecting and you're a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:46:24 No.51101047 Report

Quoted By: >>51101306

>>51100124
Just like in dynamax you're not going to use the same pokemon, a good team will be able to teralize any of its pokemon depending on the situation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:49:08 No.51101162 Report

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>>51099434
False. With hidden power, any pokemon can have any of the different hidden power types. But this time some pokemon will not be able to become some types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:53:19 No.51101306 Report

Quoted By: >>51101921

>>51101047
Well they still get a type buff even if they're not ideal. Yes you want every Pokemon to be able to Dynamax, but your team is probably only going to be built around two or three of them ever having to do it, and the rest are either super situational or just a bad idea. You're probably not going to Dynamax your Incineroar, and you're never going to want to Dynamax Dusclops or Comfey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 14:55:28 No.51101387 Report

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>>51100035
DLC lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:02:13 No.51101602 Report

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>>51100372
You probably will have a vague idea, it'll either be a type of one of the moves it has for the stab+, or something keep it from being ohko from stab earthquake like flying pikachu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:07:51 No.51101805 Report

Quoted By: >>51103615 >>51105132

>>51100372
>As opposed to any Pokemon can become literally any type now

The way it was presented implied that pokemon have limited selections. I don't think that every pokemon can become all 18 types. Otherwise flying pikachu wouldn't be a timed event.

There are also tradeoffs, for example surprising your opponent by making your Raikou flying type to dodge that EQ also makes it less powerful since it loses its STAB on its electric moves, and has no offensive moves to take advantage of its new type. So now its just STABless Raikou that's weak to rock, ice and electric (and stealth rocks lol).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:08:09 No.51101822 Report

Quoted By: >>51110430

>>51099668
I presume there will be an item you can buy in the battle tower to change your tera type. It's the direction they've been heading in with things like mints, bottle caps, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:09:38 No.51101885 Report

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>>51099459
Yeah now mon have a crystal tumor on their head.
So much better!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:11:09 No.51101921 Report

Quoted By: >>51101968

>>51101306
>You're probably not going to Dynamax your Incineroar
You know it's funny, just yesterday I had a max incin game. My opponent was down to eleki, calyrex, and whimsicott. I has solgaleo and incin. In incin surived eleki, he'd sweep the rest so I pulled the rare defensive max and won the game. The fact you can react on the fly and dynamax any pokemon is what makes it such a deeper, and overall better, mechanic than z moves and megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:12:39 No.51101968 Report

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>>51101921
>used at the first opportunity to win the entire game
>deep mechanic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:14:50 No.51102021 Report

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hidden power never let you change your pokemon's type and not all pokemon can be every type

Black Eagle !!1i4EnMmTyR1

Black Eagle !!1i4EnMmTyR1 Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:16:07 No.51102053 Report

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>>51099434
how is it hidden power if it changes the type of the pokemon? Last time I checked old hidden power didn’t do that

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:23:20 No.51102261 Report

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>>51100489
>mfw the Pokemon turns into shitty CGI because they don't have the budget to animate the crystalized effect AND goofy hat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:24:52 No.51102301 Report

Quoted By: >>51102869 >>51103559

>>51099434
Op is a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:48:09 No.51102869 Report

Quoted By: >>51103559

>>51102301
he's been repeating that shit again and again since reveal, I garantee you he's building up for his own youtube reaction video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 15:51:29 No.51102937 Report

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>>51099559
>upgraded
jej

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:16:09 No.51103559 Report

Quoted By: >>51109743

>>51102301
>>51102869
>coping already by pretending it's just one person
Nice projection, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:19:05 No.51103615 Report

Quoted By: >>51103745 >>51104909 >>51105132

>>51101805
It's not confirmed Raikou loses STAB on its original moves. The way it describes the STAB+ for using a type you already had, it sounds like it might be that it keeps its original STABs while changing type and either adding a new STAB or increasing the oriignal STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:21:12 No.51103675 Report

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>>51099434
Oh no bros, what if these forms show up as unique in the Home dex... My autism will be kicked into overdrive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:23:39 No.51103723 Report

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>>51099434
it's more like a protean that doesnt change
i think kaka says it goes away when you switch out though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:24:29 No.51103745 Report

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>>51103615
Yeah it's really unclear

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:52:05 No.51104416 Report

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>>51100035
>Electric type Shedinja holding an Air Balloon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:53:30 No.51104453 Report

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>>51099434
I mean its like its not random now, its preset and some evens may give other types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:57:00 No.51104537 Report

Quoted By: >>51105697

>>51099459
>new means it's good!!!
Zoom zoom

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 16:59:52 No.51104608 Report

Quoted By: >>51104988

>T-Terastal isn't just Hidden Power recycled into a gimmick because it changes a Pokemon's type a-and it gives them a hat a-and it makes them look like they're covered in resin
So it's... Multitype/RKS System but with Hidden Power's caveats, making it a worse gimmick than these two abilities? Wow, that certainly makes it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:03:24 No.51104691 Report

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>>51099434
B-BUT THE HAT IS LE NEW!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:04:51 No.51104737 Report

Quoted By: >>51105132

>>51100261
Lmao this faggot is intimidated by a 60bp move that is only used for fire ice or grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:12:19 No.51104909 Report

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>>51103615
>A Pokémon's Tera Type is inactive until the Pokémon Terastallizes, at which time the Pokémon's type will change to its Tera Type

Seems pretty cut and dry to me. If Raikou is Tera Water, and becomes water type, why would it have STAB on electric? It is literally not electric type anymore for the remainder of the battle. It makes sense that it would get double STAB as Tera electric, or else there would literally be no reason to ever use the same Tera type as your current type. It provides the choice of power vs. utility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:15:46 No.51104988 Report

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>>51104608
>it's not hidden power because [lists things that hidden power doesn't do]

now you're getting it. the fact that you uploaded a laughing pikachu to try to convey any sense of intelligence on your part makes you look like a bigger retard. this gimmick doesn't even give you a move that matches your new type, literally the only thing that hidden power does do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:22:22 No.51105132 Report

Quoted By: >>51107096 >>51109682

>>51101805
>>51103615
It seems like some teras will make you change type entirely while others will just give you additional STAB (but not actually change your type). This would make sense because if it always just added a type, then you'd get triple-typed mons and that'd be a mess.
But yeah, it's not really like Hidden Power. If anything it reminds me of a second take on Z-moves.
>>51104737
Don't respond to him, he always shows up when HP is brought up. I don't think I've ever heard of a top player bitch about HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:24:38 No.51105182 Report

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>>51099509
most pokemon will just have a stab buff which could be the optimal choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:30:52 No.51105321 Report

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>>51100304
New pokemon, new region, open world, plenty of differences. The region gimmick is just icing, not the reason to buy the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:42:33 No.51105546 Report

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>>51099434
It's more like a souped-up version of Gems.
At least Electivire will finally have good STAB now....
W-w-what do you mean Electabuzz line isn't in SV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:50:43 No.51105697 Report

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>>51104537
>new means it's bad!!!
ok, boomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 17:58:14 No.51105849 Report

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>>51099434
It's Hidden power but you know what type you're getting ahead of time and it's a type bonus that can change your type effectiveness that isn't limited to a single move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:00:43 No.51105903 Report

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>>51100035
Fighting type effectiveness I guess.......

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:12:56 No.51106172 Report

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>>51100035
Shedinja will probably one of the few exceptions (if it's even in) because I but Wonder Guard is now hardcoded to only work with Bug/Ghost type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:19:51 No.51106306 Report

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>>51099434
I'm fucking laughing that yet another feature they removed came back repackaged.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:24:08 No.51106397 Report

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>>51099434
It's not, this doesn't give you the attacking move you're missing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:26:06 No.51106442 Report

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>/vp/ reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:28:17 No.51106482 Report

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>>51099434
It really isn't, all pokémon had an individual type for hidden power, while most pokémon are their usual type when it comes to this.
Not only that but hidden power added coverage, while this needs a specific move to get stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:56:34 No.51107096 Report

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>>51105132
>If anything it reminds me of a second take on Z-moves.
This. when I saw the trailer I was like ''so this is basically z moves right?'' but after reading a bit deeper into it it seems that it also has the mega evo convenience of lasting for the entire battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:58:18 No.51107128 Report

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>>51100035
This game makes new pokemon every couple of years, and they don't need to because the best pokemon were already made 10 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 18:59:43 No.51107158 Report

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>game freak somehow making worse and worse gimmicks as time goes on

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 19:01:41 No.51107200 Report

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>>51099459
Haha. Based.
Hidden Power truly was retarded.
>>51099509
It's highly implied that all Pokemon can appear with each and every tera type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 19:52:44 No.51108229 Report

Quoted By: >>51110280

>>51099505
You don't need to fuck with autistic breeding mechanics to get the one you want so it's Hidden Power, but better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 19:59:23 No.51108357 Report

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>>51099434
Trans Evee

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 21:03:46 No.51109682 Report

Quoted By: >>51110082

>>51105132
>I don't think I've ever heard of a top player bitch about HP
https://youtu.be/hYLwYVg-3pY?t=1626

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 21:07:18 No.51109743 Report

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>>51103559
you are literally alone, larping to shill your next video banner title, despite it beig literal fake news. but you don't care, you are just testing the meme power of the sentence, not the game content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 21:27:54 No.51110082 Report

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>>51109682
>person who actually plays the game has almost the exact opposite opinions from /vp/
kek fucking figures

this board is a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 21:41:09 No.51110280 Report

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>>51108229
Yeah, we know you lack the two neurons needed to use PkHex or any other genning software.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 21:50:20 No.51110430 Report

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>>51101822
This. You'd think people on this board never played a pokemon game & are tourist based on this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 22:59:23 No.51111575 Report

Quoted By: >>51112778

>>51100035
>all the retards ITT that don't know about mold breaker, hazards or passive damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:18:41 No.51112778 Report

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>>51111575
all of which can be shut down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:26:21 No.51112873 Report

Quoted By: >>51113016

This mechanic is closer to Delta species than hidden power. regional forms kinda started it but this just allows any mon to diverge without needing to make a form for everything.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:38:28 No.51113016 Report

Quoted By: >>51113051

>>51099434
>>51112873
It's more like Conversion. Everything is Adaptability Porygon-Z now.

The important part is whether using this mechanic takes up a turn and/or requires a held item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:41:55 No.51113051 Report

Quoted By: >>51113126

>>51113016
Personally movepool matters more than anything here. technically each pokemon has a limited amount of types it can terastal into and I bet they're based on coverage moves or else what's the point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:48:14 No.51113126 Report

Quoted By: >>51113155

>>51113051
I could see niche cases where you'd want to Terastallize even if you don't have a move of your Tera Type. E.g.
>Opponent has set up Stealth Rock and Toxic Spikes
>Send in a Poison/Ground type like new Quagsire to absorb the spikes while taking little damage from the rocks
>Then shift to Flying to cover your ass before the opponent can Earthquake you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:50:58 No.51113155 Report

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>>51113126
This does add the possibility of your opponent predicting that though, which I like because it means a decent shakeup in competitive battling.

The question of "Is it worth having no STAB better defensive typing" is an interesting one too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:53:51 No.51113185 Report

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>>51099550
says who?

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