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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:33:39 No.51112076 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51112102 >>51112110 >>51112122 >>51112267 >>51112304 >>51112972 >>51113600 >>51113692 >>51113708 >>51113734 >>51114535

Wait a fucking second.
Dual-type moves confirmed? Not just like Flying Press, actual dual-type moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:35:24 No.51112102 Report

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>>51112076
>At least one of
This one jumps out to me too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:35:34 No.51112105 Report

Quoted By: >>51112136

A dual typed pokemon has 2 possible overlaps with a Tera type.

Grass/Water + Grass Tera + Grass Move
Grass/Water + Water Tera + Water Move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:36:04 No.51112110 Report

Quoted By: >>51112123 >>51112136 >>51112181 >>51112255 >>51112659 >>51112802

>>51112076

no, it just means that stab is increasing even further, probably like mega lucario ability.
1,5 goes up to 2 or something

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:36:54 No.51112122 Report

Quoted By: >>51112748 >>51114535

>>51112076
No it just means that if you terrastilwhatever Hawlucha to a Fire type, then it will get STAB on Fire Punch, but also still on Close Combat and Aerial Ace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:36:54 No.51112123 Report

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>>51112110
This. Should have been "or"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:38:02 No.51112136 Report

Quoted By: >>51112255 >>51112624

>>51112105
>>51112110
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking after making my brain work a bit better since hitting the submit button.
>grass type terathings to grass
>STAB is now stronger to make up for wasting the whole mechanic
That's looking far more likely than moves with two types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:41:06 No.51112181 Report

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>>51112110
I think OP circled the wrong word there to point out their point. If the Tera Type and the original type are the same, then the move gets some sort of super boost, as you said. But the wording is "at least one of its original types", which could imply the existence of moves that are multiple types. Like a Tera Type of Grass and a dual-type move of Grass and Fire. More than likely not, since they haven't done any dual-type moves for almost 9 years at this point, but hey, makes speculation interesting.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:45:53 No.51112255 Report

Quoted By: >>51113588 >>51113679

>>51112110
>>51112136
imagine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:46:34 No.51112267 Report

Quoted By: >>51112624

>>51112076
No, it's written poorly. What it seems to be implying is that the power boost from your normal STAB will compound with a power boost from this new gimmick if they happen to match types. So an Electric Pikachu can become Tera Flying to just get a boost to that one move OR it can become Tera Electric to get STAB+ on any of its Electric moves. And a dual type mon can do this with either of its types, so they are in a better position to abuse STAB+ if they Tera into either of their types.

What I want to have clarified though is if that actually is the case or they're just very awkwardly trying to explain that you should try to Tera into a type you know moves for already to maximize your power, with a Tera type matching your own giving you the most potential for having the correct attacks to receive the boost (ie you don't get STAB+ you just are more likely to have a move matching your Tera and the boost from Tera is better than normal STAB outright)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2022 23:48:34 No.51112304 Report

Quoted By: >>51112505 >>51112624 >>51112850

>>51112076
>Grass/Water pokemon with Ice TT
>Use Grass move
>Does normal stab damage

>Grass/Water pokemon with Ice TT
>Use Ice move
>Does normal stab damage despite not being Ice type

>Grass/Water pokemon with Grass TT
>Use Grass move
>Does double stab damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:00:52 No.51112505 Report

Quoted By: >>51112624

>>51112304
This is probably going to be one of the most versatile gimmicks depending on how they distribute tera types. Because the trailer made it seem like they were limited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:07:32 No.51112624 Report

Quoted By: >>51112748

>>51112136
>>51112267
>>51112304
These.
>Grass-type + Grass Tera = Stronger STAB
>Grass/Water + Grass Tera = Stronger STAB for Grass, but loses Water-type
>Grass-type + Water Tera = Changes type to Water
Terastal is type change and/or damage boost in one gimmick.
>>51112505
It could be like Gigantamax where it's limited at first, but later on via DLC, gets the ability to change to any of them using an item or method. Maybe they'll repurpose gems for that effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:09:32 No.51112654 Report

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Hawlucha with its signature move and double tera for a 4x boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:09:53 No.51112659 Report

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>>51112110
>2
>Not 2.25
pretty disappointing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:15:55 No.51112748 Report

Quoted By: >>51112988

>>51112122
>matches its Tera Type AND at least one of its original types
Fucking learn to read. This shit's not fucking hard. It says And, not Or.
>>51112624
They literally said you can get Tera Types beyond the defaults in the wild and that raids just make them more common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:20:00 No.51112802 Report

Quoted By: >>51113868

>>51112110
> GF doing STAB bonus turbocharge gimmicks for the 3rd time

can we get some actual innovations to the battle system instead of whatever this is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:20:50 No.51112817 Report

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probably some translation error

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:24:16 No.51112850 Report

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>>51112304
>Grass/Water pokemon with Ice TT
>Use Grass move
>Does normal stab damage

No, its type changes to ice. It would not get STAB on grass. It is not a grass or water type anymore once it activates Ice Tera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:35:03 No.51112972 Report

Quoted By: >>51113603

>>51112076
You’re and idiot and circled the wrong word. The ‘at least one of’ is the part that would refer to dual type moves.

If it’s ‘at least’ that means this is valid:
>Pokemon uses a move that matches its Tera type and both of its original types
So the move would need to be dual type in that situation.

Honestly though it’s just shitty wording. All the updates from today on the official site look like they were run through Google Translate from nip

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:35:42 No.51112988 Report

Quoted By: >>51113006

>>51112748
Yes, but did they say anything about being able to change the Tera Types for caught Pokémon? For example, Pikachu would normally have Electric Tera, but it could have Psychic, Water, or Fairy Tera in raids or Flying Tera through an event and that's all the types Pikachu can use with Terastal and whichever Tera Type it gets it's stuck with it. As with G-Max, there was no way to change it until DLC added Max Soup. Same thing could apply to Terastal where DLC could let nearly any Pokémon have any Tera Type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 00:37:33 No.51113006 Report

Quoted By: >>51113558 >>51113574

>>51112988
Anon. They said any combination's possible. In no uncertain terms. Why is this so fucking hard for people to get when it's right on the site?

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Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:24:37 No.51113558 Report

Quoted By: >>51113829

>>51113006
>They said any combination's possible
>Any
>Combination
>possible
>any
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:25:28 No.51113574 Report

Quoted By: >>51113613 >>51113644 >>51113688

>>51113006
>There are 18 types, meaning there are countless combinations of Pokémon and Tera Types.
>When to activate this special transformation and the combination of Pokémon and Tera Types you choose to use are all up to you.
Yet at the same time...
>By purchasing Pokémon Scarlet or Pokémon Violet early, you will receive a special Pikachu as a gift.
>This Pikachu has two unique characteristics: 1. It knows the move Fly, which it normally cannot learn. 2. Its Tera Type is Flying.
>This special Pikachu can't be obtained through regular gameplay!
It better be just Fly that's event-only to that Pikachu, because between that and OP's pic, I've been getting mixed messages with how their information is presented.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:27:07 No.51113588 Report

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>>51112255
Pory-Z hitting that Adaptability Normal Teratype Hyperbeam with gen 1 mechanics

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:28:06 No.51113600 Report

Quoted By: >>51113613

>>51112076
I think it just means the secondary typing gets a boost too. So if an Unfezant has Normal Tera typing, it'll get a boost for Flying type moves too, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:28:30 No.51113603 Report

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>>51112972
He did it right you goddamn idiot. The "and" is what implies it matches two types, the Tera type AND another type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:29:38 No.51113613 Report

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>>51113600
Are you illiterate, anon? That's not what it says at all.

>>51113574
Notice it specifies that Pikachu can't normally learn Flying, but NOT that Pikachu can't normally have a Flying tera type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:33:05 No.51113644 Report

Quoted By: >>51113669 >>51113688

>>51113574
Pokemon have same-type Tera by default. Alternate typed Tera are seemingly similar to hidden abilities, where you have to get a Pokemon through specific methods like raids if you want them. Flying Tera is unusual enough to advertise, but not that big of a deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:34:18 No.51113664 Report

Quoted By: >>51113686

>anons that don't understand it
>anons shitting themselves over anons not understanding it
I don't know what's funnier

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:34:48 No.51113669 Report

Quoted By: >>51113688

>>51113644
Not true at all

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Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:35:58 No.51113679 Report

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>>51112255
Stop being lazy. Two minutes in Paint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:36:44 No.51113686 Report

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>>51113664
TPC having incompetent translators and proofreaders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:36:50 No.51113688 Report

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>>51113574
They're saying "unique" as a way to differentiate it from a normal Pikachu. Pikachu's standard Tera Type should be Electric if the Eevee comment isn't being misleading, so being a Flying Tera Type would be a noteworthy distinction. They do explicitly clarify that only Fly is unobtainable normally, the Tera Type doesn't get the same clause.
>>51113644
Raids are more common but they directly say you can just get them in the wild as normal encounters.
>>51113669
The standard Tera Type thing is accurate, they do actually say that in the trailer but it's slightly ambiguous if they are all same-type or not (but their only example is and is worded like that should be expected).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:37:22 No.51113692 Report

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>>51112076
So will be Grass-Grass or Water-Water type.
:/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:38:28 No.51113708 Report

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>>51112076
I think that means if you use tera without changing type, you get a super boost to the move. A payoff for doing that instead of using the option of changing the type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:39:43 No.51113734 Report

Quoted By: >>51113748

>>51112076
>shows Grass teratyped Liligant
>retards don't understand how you can have a matching tera, regular, and move types
My money is on it being a separate multiplier (1.5×1.5) instead of just Adaptability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:41:15 No.51113748 Report

Quoted By: >>51113788

>>51113734
The problem with that is it would give boosted STAB on all tera types, instead of just tera types that match the original type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:45:50 No.51113788 Report

Quoted By: >>51113848

>>51113748
No. No it wouldn't. I don't even know how you came to that conclusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:49:05 No.51113829 Report

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>>51113558
>Still dies to Damaging Status moves like Burn/Poison/Trapping and Weather effects like Sandstorm/Hail

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:51:52 No.51113848 Report

Quoted By: >>51113904

>>51113788
If your type matches the move's type, you get 1.5x.
If your tera type matches the move's type, you get 1.5x IF you've terastallized.
In all cases, while terastallized, you either get neither or both, since your current type after terastallizing is the same as your tera type. But we know you only get a boosted STAB if the tera type matches one of the pokemon's original types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:54:09 No.51113868 Report

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>>51112802
>can we get some actual innovations to the battle system instead of whatever this is.
Only if the games sell less than 10 million copies
which means never

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 01:57:24 No.51113904 Report

Quoted By: >>51113968 >>51114632

>>51113848
Anon. You're not correcting anyone. How do you not understand this? Unironically, are you an ESL?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 02:02:34 No.51113968 Report

Quoted By: >>51114037

>>51113904
Who pissed in your cornflakes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 02:08:36 No.51114037 Report

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>>51113968
Nobody? That was a legitimate question, I cannot tell if anon's an ESL because they can't understand a very straightforward statement and is trying to correct someone by repeating what they said back at them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 02:56:50 No.51114535 Report

Quoted By: >>51114563 >>51114632

>>51112122
>>51112076
Oh I was under the impression this actually changed the pokemon's type rather than just giving it bonus STAB. This is now a lame gimmick. I longer like it. I had a bunch of jokes ready for Pokemon that were just going to abuse this by becoming Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 02:58:34 No.51114563 Report

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>>51114535
That's literally how it works. Even the OP's pic gives you that exact context.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:01:34 No.51114596 Report

Quoted By: >>51114618

Cant comprehend this shit? its just fucking STAB, Jesus. Same shit they over hyping the gimmick when its just type changing. Cringe af.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:03:27 No.51114618 Report

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>>51114596
Weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:04:21 No.51114632 Report

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>>51114535
>Oh I was under the impression this actually changed the pokemon's type
It does.
Holy shit you fucking morons are illiterate.

>>51113904
If all you meant is that it will add a second multiplier to the STAB, that's functionally the same as increasing the multiplier because multiplication is transitive. We don't know how much the multiplier will be increased so it's moot to speculate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:38:23 No.51114970 Report

Quoted By: >>51115005 >>51115035

I remember somebody suggesting that the Pokemon's Primary type in a dual type would be the main Tera form.
That's obviously not the case, but it was already debunked by the fact that the Drifblim in the trailer used Flying which is the secondary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:40:20 No.51114987 Report

Quoted By: >>51114998

The fact that they specifically emphasized
>There are 18 types, so there are countless combinations of Tera Types and Pokemon
Tells me that it's not limited

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:41:32 No.51114998 Report

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>>51114987
No, Azumarill is ONLY water tera

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:43:03 No.51115005 Report

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>>51114970
Maybe it's like an 85:15 split, but the 85% is 50/50 of being either its dual types with the 15% being the alt tera types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:46:08 No.51115035 Report

Quoted By: >>51115062

>>51114970
There was a Gardevoir with fucking Water Tera-type in the trailer.
Tera-type doesn't appear to operate under any real restrictions on what pokemon can have what type. It is entirely separate from the Pokemon's original typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:49:30 No.51115062 Report

Quoted By: >>51115070

>>51115035
Anon, they're talking about the common Tera Types for each Pokemon not the rare ones. Eevee's common Tera Type is Normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 03:50:46 No.51115070 Report

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>>51115062
I see.
But who cares about that.
That is the least interesting aspect of the mechanic.
Besides, it's been recently revealed that you can change a pokemon's Tera-type using items. So you can just change it to whatever you want after you catch it.

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