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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:12:25 No.51254248 View View Reply Original Report

Vgcucks in a nutshell.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:14:24 No.51254265 Report

Quoted By: >>51254305

>>51254248
I want to rape the twink on the left and force him to watch me adding smeargle with batton pass on my team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:16:48 No.51254282 Report

Quoted By: >>51256051

>>51254248
Agree with the general sentiment but
>Players must qualify to vote by laddering in the meta that excludes the suspect Pokemon
isn't always true. Sometimes the suspect Pokemon is included.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:17:38 No.51254292 Report

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>>51254248
>I'M SILLY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:18:05 No.51254299 Report

Quoted By: >>51254454

>>51254248
smogon is better but this comic reeks of tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:18:47 No.51254305 Report

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>>51254265
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:22:54 No.51254337 Report

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>>51254248
Smogon is worse because it's singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:29:08 No.51254399 Report

Quoted By: >>51255222

>>51254248
>it's the only recognized format for singles
TPCi and GameFreak, the creators and managers of the actual pokemon game and official tournament organizers don't seem to agree with this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:30:27 No.51254411 Report

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>>51254248
You know what's the coolest thing about /vp/? You don't have to post here. So let others complain in peace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:33:57 No.51254454 Report

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>>51254299
Well it is made by an enby femtroon for starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:35:41 No.51254472 Report

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>>51254248
VGChads still live rent free in smogpedo groomers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:38:44 No.51254504 Report

Quoted By: >>51259382

>youre not allowed to criticise food unless you're a chef
>youre not allowed to criticise a game unless you're a gamedev
>youre not allowed to criticise a car unless youre a car designer
>youre not allowed to criticise the government unless you're a dictator of a small country
Yeah no, smoggiepedos get fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:40:31 No.51254515 Report

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>>51254248
>strawmanning
>shaved side

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:48:32 No.51254571 Report

Quoted By: >>51254581 >>51254701 >>51255256

>>51254248
Ok but a question to all compfags, have you ever tried playing a game and having fun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 16:50:28 No.51254581 Report

Quoted By: >>51254684

>>51254571
>implying following rules made by literal nobodies is fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:05:48 No.51254684 Report

Quoted By: >>51255256

>>51254581
It isnt, theres nothing more lifeless than meticulously calculating efficiency just for the "meta". Im trying to have fun playing vidya not become an engineering student in the proces of playing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:07:50 No.51254697 Report

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EVERY DAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:08:28 No.51254701 Report

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>>51254571
I don't play Pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:34:18 No.51254917 Report

Quoted By: >>51254959 >>51254971 >>51255919

>>51254248
This would be accurate if not for the fact that suspect tests are performed only at the discretion of smogon's groomer neckbeard council. You can claim that the community controls the tiers all you want but so long as that's the case it will never be truly accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:36:46 No.51254959 Report

Quoted By: >>51255051 >>51255127

>>51254917
>ad hominem whataboutism
This is why poketards are absolutely unable to hold a normal discussion, because you always resort to this shit. Even when discussing pokemon designs, you always go "UMMMMMMM ACKSHUALLY THIS POKEMON FROM OTHER GEN ALSO LOOKS LIKE SHIT SO YOU CANT SAY THIS POKEMON LOOKS LIKE SHIT"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:38:21 No.51254971 Report

Quoted By: >>51255051

>>51254917
Not to defend the smogroomers but can you imagine what a shitshow it would be if it were actually democratic? Lando would be up for suspect every other week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:46:39 No.51255051 Report

Quoted By: >>51255072 >>51255080

>>51254959
Take your meds, this isn't an apt comparison fucking at all. Criticizing smogon for claiming bans and tiers are democratic when they clearly aren't is fair.
>>51254971
That's irrelevant. If they want to maintain the argument that the high rated players control the format the """""council""""" should have no say in it save for their own vote which should be no more valuable than anyone else's with a qualified ELO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:48:15 No.51255066 Report

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>>51254248
>Vgcucks
How do you say this
Vee-Gee-Cucks?
VGC+cucks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:48:40 No.51255072 Report

Quoted By: >>51255078

>>51255051
>If they want to maintain the argument that the high rated players control the format
Fair. They should stop doing this and just admit that direct democracy is for retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:49:41 No.51255078 Report

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>>51255072
That would also be fine. I'm not criticizing the process itself, I'm criticizing that their description of it is disingenuous bull shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:49:49 No.51255080 Report

Quoted By: >>51255098 >>51255232

>>51255051
Keep SEETHING vgcuck
You will NEVER be a woman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:51:14 No.51255098 Report

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>>51255080
I don't even play VGC. Doubles are fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:53:36 No.51255127 Report

Quoted By: >>51255159

>>51254959
>no points to refute the argument and resorts to ad hominems himself
you're proving him right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 17:56:39 No.51255159 Report

Quoted By: >>51255261

>>51255127
>w-well smogon is le bad because its creator is a PEDO!!!!! b-bet you can't c-counter that!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:01:25 No.51255222 Report

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>>51254399
I was about to say this.
Additionally, the council makes various decisions that the average player has no say in.

I like smogon/Showdown but lying isn't the way to get your point across.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:02:33 No.51255232 Report

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>>51255080
Smogon is the tranny format though.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:05:05 No.51255256 Report

Quoted By: >>51255265

>>51254571
>>51254684
Fun isn't something one considers when balancing a fan metagame, but seeing the council rage over things like dynamax, does put a smile on my face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:05:37 No.51255261 Report

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>>51255159
Smogon is bad because they insist the meta is democratic when it literally isn't. You cannot refute this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:05:51 No.51255265 Report

Quoted By: >>51255279 >>51255329

>>51255256
Anon... are you defending dynamax in singles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:07:14 No.51255279 Report

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>>51255265
Not them but i will
There is no defensive merit to dynamax, therefore it is based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:08:13 No.51255287 Report

Quoted By: >>51255349

>All move/mechanic/item bans are done by the council alone
>All suspect tests must be approved by the council alone before the community is allowed to even participate in them
>All rule changes are decided by the council alone
>The council is not elected to the position and cannot be impeached, questioned, or reviewed since there is no balance of power whatsoever
I will never understand why anyone praises smogon when all this is blatantly looming over the entirety of the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:13:10 No.51255329 Report

Quoted By: >>51255354

>>51255265
Dynamax in battle spot (or whatever the fuck it was called) on the Switch sucked ass and was more cancerous than plenty of things smogon banned.

Dynamax in singles on showdown was hilarious and fun. Its crazy to me that they even banned it in ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:15:59 No.51255349 Report

Quoted By: >>51255377

>>51255287
Wow. And here I thought the council members earned their way there and had to rotate or served terms. So much for democracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:16:52 No.51255354 Report

Quoted By: >>51255370

>>51255329
>It was bad because I don't like it despite the fact that the creators of the game want you to use it
>Removing it was good because some random dickheads on a fan website said it was bad because it hurt their favorite playstyle (stall)
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:18:23 No.51255370 Report

Quoted By: >>51255381

>>51255354
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE THIS FAN FORMAT BAN NONCOMPETITIVE AND LUCKBASED SHIT FOR THEIR COMPETITIVE RULES??????
Stay mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:18:48 No.51255377 Report

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>>51255349
Not him but if it isn't an elected position it isn't democratic regardless. Imagine if people got elected to congress because "well he was involved in politics for a long time so he earned it". See the problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:19:50 No.51255381 Report

Quoted By: >>51255431

>>51255370
The problem isn't that they banned it. The problem is the council banned it and the community had ZERO say. There was no vote to ban Dynamax, they just decided it amongst themselves and that's fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:21:39 No.51255394 Report

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VGC SUCKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:26:11 No.51255425 Report

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>>51254248
I know it's bait but,
Bans aren't by a large community. They're very frequently kept to small circles of the highest ranking players only and often aren't suspect tested well or long enough to make good conclusions. Their voting system is the must bizarre clique thing too, so going against the grain on mod or tip top player opinions can get you ostracized just for defending or attacking a ban decision.
This bitch is somehow even worse than shills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:27:11 No.51255431 Report

Quoted By: >>51255452

>>51255381
Democracy is cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:30:39 No.51255452 Report

Quoted By: >>51255482

>>51255431
>Oh yes glorious council please decide my fate for me I worship you utterly and will never ever question your based decisions, you are infinitely wise and I am a brainless peon who doesn't know better
This is what you sound like

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:33:36 No.51255482 Report

Quoted By: >>51255523

>>51255452
I'm not defending the council of groomers. I'm just saying a decision isn't automatically better just because it was hastily made by 50 people instead of being hastily made by 5.
We only use democracy in politics because it's so shitty and inefficient that it makes outright tyranny difficult to pull off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:33:44 No.51255484 Report

Quoted By: >>51255510 >>51255525

Dynamax shouldn’t even be eligible for a ban in the first place, banning a game mechanic has no precedent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:35:38 No.51255510 Report

Quoted By: >>51255535 >>51255578

>>51255484
Banning certain abilities and moves is banning a game mechanic, not really new

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:37:07 No.51255523 Report

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>>51255482
I mean sure dude Democracy is fucking shit but that doesn't exactly have bearing on the argument at hand. The issue is Smogon claims every decision is decided democratically when that's a blatant fucking lie. You say you aren't defending them but when you toss comments like this at people criticizing them you definitely look the part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:37:10 No.51255525 Report

Quoted By: >>51255554 >>51255578

>>51255484
Sleep clause is the precedent.
Also, unlike sleep clause, the dynamax ban can be replicated on cart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:38:36 No.51255535 Report

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>>51255510
No it’s not, you’re banning elements within a game mechanic (individual abilities/moves). It’d be like banning items or switching Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:40:31 No.51255554 Report

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>>51255525
Sleep clause is fucking nonsense too, it doesn’t even function the same as the game it’s allegedly from

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 18:43:31 No.51255578 Report

Quoted By: >>51255975

>>51255510
That's a bull shit comparison and you know it. It would be more comparable to banning ALL abilities.
>>51255525
Clauses in general are fucking stupid. Especially since none of them are voted on and can't be replicated on cart. Banning Dynamax without a vote was fucking retarded and was clearly only done to protect stall. Funny how whenever the suggestion to introduce turn or time limits on matches is suggested the council covers their ears and pretends they don't hear it. Hyper offensive Pokemon are also AGGRESSIVELY suspect tested while getting them to test defensive/stall Pokemon is like pulling fucking teeth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 19:22:35 No.51255919 Report

Quoted By: >>51256014

>>51254917
And how do you suppose Suspect tests are held?
It’s not like suspect Pokemon aren’t chosen at random. Most of the time, suspects are done against Pokemon the community hates
>b-but they didn’t suspect Lando and Toxapex
Probably because most qualified players would unanimously vote against banning them, while only shitters filtered by them would vote to ban them (that is if suspect tests were retarded and gave everyone an equal vote).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 19:31:22 No.51255975 Report

Quoted By: >>51256812

>>51255578
>Funny how whenever the suggestion to introduce turn or time limits on matches is suggested the council covers their ears and pretends they don't hear it
Anon, those already exist.
There is already a turn limit of 1000 and a timer of 2 minutes that gradually declines if you take too long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 19:37:41 No.51256014 Report

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>>51255919
The Pex is a menace and must be stopped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 19:43:37 No.51256051 Report

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>>51254282
They used to exclude Pokemon, which is a shame since those Pokemon acted like crutches.
What suspects should do is have you ladder on a ladder with and without those Pokemon, and also make it so your vote is worth as much as your GXE. That way even shitters can vote without their votes cancelling out good players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 21:29:01 No.51256726 Report

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>>51254248
Stop spamming this dumb bitch's comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 21:30:27 No.51256735 Report

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>>51254248
>tranny haircut
Opinion discarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 21:41:59 No.51256812 Report

Quoted By: >>51256907

>>51255975
Wow what an effective guideline to make a game last 1000 turns and consistently delay those turns when the gradual timer decrease caps at 1 minute.
Might as well put a 1000 mph speed limit on the road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Aug 2022 21:55:47 No.51256907 Report

Quoted By: >>51258042

>>51256812
>”lmao Smogon is horseshit, they don’t even have a timer or turn limit”
>But they do
>”y-yeah but it doesn’t count”
btw, you probably could complete an entire room tour in less time it would take to complete a VGC set with how long turns take in VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 01:14:16 No.51258042 Report

Quoted By: >>51258147

>>51256907
cope, smogontranny. Enjoy facing stall for 1000 turns until the game ends

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 01:31:43 No.51258147 Report

Quoted By: >>51259650

>>51258042
ok. It’ll take less time to do that than a game of VGC, and I will be making more decisions because of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 02:49:22 No.51258597 Report

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>>51254248
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 03:13:48 No.51258717 Report

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>>51254248
Yes i'm sure every VGC player is just seething at the existence of Smogon right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 03:14:05 No.51258721 Report

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>>51254248
i dont care about that shit, singles is just for babies and i like to have fun and also play is real tournaments

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 03:16:01 No.51258727 Report

Quoted By: >>51259015

>>51254248
vgc chads get trophies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 04:12:22 No.51259015 Report

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>>51258727
cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 05:31:17 No.51259382 Report

Quoted By: >>51259621

>>51254504
>youre not allowed to criticise food unless you eat food
>youre not allowed to criticise a game unless you play games
>youre not allowed to criticise a car unless you drive
>youre not allowed to criticise the government unless you live under it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 06:01:42 No.51259523 Report

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I don't care if you play smogon. I played singles in gen 4 and 5. I just prefer VGC because it's the actual tournament setting for official events

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Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 06:15:57 No.51259595 Report

Quoted By: >>51259702

>>51254248
Why smogtards visualize themselves as half-shaven tranny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 06:21:24 No.51259621 Report

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>>51259382
>youre not allowed to criticise a game unless you play games
Game journalists consider this to be gatekeeping hate speech

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 06:26:23 No.51259650 Report

Quoted By: >>51259676

>>51258147
VGC is literally capped at 20 minutes. I could play 50 full games of worst case scenario VGC while your opponent stalls you out for 16 hours in a single match of your fanfic meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 06:32:55 No.51259676 Report

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>>51259650
Doesn't matter Smogon still has a timer and turn limit
Please ignore its extremely lax stipulations that encourage bad sportsmanship and wasting time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 06:38:33 No.51259702 Report

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>>51259595
Because that's what they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Aug 2022 08:38:14 No.51260145 Report

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Please leak her exclusive Patreon lewds into Kemonoparty already

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