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Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2022 16:13:06 No.51291058 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51291555 >>51291560 >>51291578 >>51291634 >>51292177 >>51292215 >>51294692 >>51296895

>Mirror herb now steals a stat boost and reverses the opponent’s buff

Eg:
>Cloyster used Shell Smash
>Mirror herb activates
>Your pokémon gets +atk, +sp. atk and +speed (only copies positive changes)
>Cloyster gets -atk, -def. -sp. atk, -sp. def and -speed (positive changes become negative. Negative changes are unaffected)

There, I fixed it. Went from useless to having a small competitive niche in UU and lower tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2022 17:39:59 No.51291555 Report

Quoted By: >>51294773 >>51298714

>>51291058
>There, I fixed it.
It's not even out. Wait til the game is out and we ACTUALLY see how people implement it before making such a presumptuous and unfounded post. People, including GF themselves, make all sorts of assumptions on how people are going to utilize abilities, items, etc and they're never wholly correct. That which is seemingly broken could easily be invalidated by something yet unseen. That which is seemingly useless could become broken by a certain Mon or ability. Curb your enthusiasm, compfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2022 17:40:53 No.51291560 Report

Quoted By: >>51292230 >>51294729

>>51291058
>Went from useless to having a small competitive niche in [FANFIC]
why should I care?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2022 17:43:20 No.51291578 Report

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>>51291058
You don't need to reverse it, it's great as is because its job is to discourage setup. Unprompted items are powerful deterrents. Covert Cloak is great for the same reason. Slowbro can keep fishing for Scald burns on your physical attacker as it sets up and just think it's bad RNG they're not getting it, leading them to keep trying or realizing too late that they'll never burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2022 17:52:01 No.51291634 Report

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>>51291058
>(only copies positive changes)
gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2022 19:14:04 No.51292177 Report

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>>51291058
>There I made something that shouldn’t be good into something usable and completely destroyed the game
I’m glad you and your “Buff Trick Room” buddies don’t work at GameFreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2022 19:18:18 No.51292215 Report

Quoted By: >>51294735

>>51291058
>useless
>Hawlucha used Swagger
>Mirror Herb activates
>Unburden Activates
>Murder activates

Even in your example, stealing all of Cloysters buffs without the debuffs is really good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Aug 2022 19:20:10 No.51292230 Report

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>>51291560
Hey Verlisify

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:21:58 No.51294692 Report

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>>51291058
It's not useless. Just the threat of it is gonna be great for discouraging setup sweepers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:29:55 No.51294729 Report

Quoted By: >>51294760

>>51291560
Fanfic meta is the only real way to play Pokemon. Doubles is a sick joke and 3v3 singles only exists because there's no way to skip animations due to Game Freak's laziness and no one would sit down for a 30 turn game that took 50 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:31:10 No.51294735 Report

Quoted By: >>51294745 >>51294749 >>51295369

>>51292215
Swagger is banned by Smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:32:52 No.51294745 Report

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>>51294735
We're not in gen 6 anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:33:23 No.51294749 Report

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>>51294735
Not since confusion nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:36:40 No.51294760 Report

Quoted By: >>51294769

>>51294729
3v3 was standard for singles 20 years ago in Crystal battle tower and all Pokemon stadium cups lol
Why are you guys like this? Why do you have such a hard time accepting comp Pokemon isn't the single player ruleset?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:38:13 No.51294769 Report

Quoted By: >>51294784

>>51294760
It was the standard in some side modes? Wow, I guess I'm wrong then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:38:43 No.51294773 Report

Quoted By: >>51295439

>>51291555
>don't discuss and speculate about Pokemon games on the Pokemon board!!
Bet you'd like another waifushit thread in the catalog you subhuman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 02:41:35 No.51294784 Report

Quoted By: >>51295417

>>51294769
As opposed to what? Link battles were 6v6 on cartridge 20 years ago? Every battle facility has been 3v3 singles even before 3d models and long animations, game just isn't meant to be played 6v6 pvp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 04:21:48 No.51295369 Report

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>>51294735
Works on my machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 04:28:28 No.51295417 Report

Quoted By: >>51296846 >>51297245

>>51294784
The games condition players to view singles as the correct form of battling and doubles as that annoying gimmick you have to do a few times.
The games give you access to 6 Pokemon, and using any fewer will always feel like not playing with a full deck to most people.
Smogon will never go away as long as Gamefreak fails to embrace that. You can make any arguments you want, and those arguments can even be correct, but they won't change reality.
Fanfic happens when the original product fails to satisfy the needs of the consumer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 04:32:32 No.51295439 Report

Quoted By: >>51297024

>>51294773
t. Groomer smogonite

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 10:36:16 No.51296846 Report

Quoted By: >>51296866 >>51296916

>>51295417
>You are right but I don't care and will persist in being wrong

Ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 10:46:33 No.51296866 Report

Quoted By: >>51297245

>>51296846
nta, but he's not necessarily wrong
There's clearly high demand for 6v6 singles or else smogon wouldnt be as popular as it is. calling the VGC format bad is personal bias, but it's jsut that some people prefer the singles format, and it's a shame gamefreak refuses to support that market group as much

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 10:49:12 No.51296873 Report

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mirror herb is smoked as a joint

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 10:56:00 No.51296895 Report

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>>51291058
The problem with smogon singles is the lack of item clause. Why even bother be creating when you can slap LO and lefties to everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 11:04:26 No.51296916 Report

Quoted By: >>51297007

>>51296846
Not what I said, but I guess reading comprehension isn't your people's strong suit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 11:28:07 No.51297007 Report

Quoted By: >>51297021

>>51296916
>You can make any arguments you want, and those arguments can even be correct, but they won't change reality.
>I don’t care if you have 20 years of history of 3v3 singles I want 6v6

There isn’t even a point you can’t have any kind of discussion of why 6v6 isn’t supported because you don’t want to understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 11:30:38 No.51297021 Report

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>>51297007
The vast majority of the game lets you use 6 mons.
Some off-the-road battle facilities limiting you to 3 mons is not going to change most people's minds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 11:32:04 No.51297024 Report

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>>51295439
t. subhuman waifufag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 12:17:56 No.51297245 Report

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>>51295417
>>51296866
Japan has the biggest competitive scene and they don't give two shits about 6v6 singles or fanfic rules.

Here's a bit of a redpill on Smogon: its rules and 6v6 being played has nothing to do with it being preferred, in-demand or even good at all. It's simply what the western competitive scene was exposed to first because it's the format a couple of teenagers chose to play 20 years ago before deciding to make Smogon, and being the first to hit the competitive Pokemon niche let them slowly gain popularity before online play in the games was even a thing. And in modern times with Smogon taking ownership of popular F2P simulators to permanently advertise their rules & site, it's no wonder that it's still full of people who blindly think it's the only way to play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Aug 2022 16:56:32 No.51298714 Report

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>>51291555
Come implement this bussy

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