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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:41:34 No.51322770 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51322851 >>51322865 >>51322934 >>51322967 >>51325219 >>51326898 >>51326911 >>51328668 >>51328903 >>51330310 >>51330396 >>51331623

Terastalize is too strong and unpredictable, it deserves to be banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:42:29 No.51322779 Report

Quoted By: >>51326535

just because you cant predict it doesnt mean it should be banned. learn to adapt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:42:33 No.51322780 Report

Quoted By: >>51322830 >>51327028

who cares
do people seriously play pokemon online

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:50:29 No.51322830 Report

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>>51322780
Not only do they play it, enough play it that shitfreak decided online was a suitable substitute for postgame. I’m sorry, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:52:49 No.51322851 Report

Quoted By: >>51330350 >>51331550

>>51322770
So damn ugly and feminine. Yuck. Every new 4chan turk is uglier than the one before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:53:44 No.51322865 Report

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>>51322770
CHARIZARD's two megas and broken movepool make it too strong and unpredictable, it deserves to be banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 22:02:19 No.51322934 Report

Quoted By:

>>51322770
It's not even out yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 22:08:05 No.51322967 Report

Quoted By: >>51326608

>>51322770
Joey is one of the few reasonable people in Smogon though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 03:38:11 No.51325219 Report

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>>51322770
OH NONONONO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 08:51:23 No.51326535 Report

Quoted By: >>51328014

>>51322779
How do you adapt if it can't be predicted, anon?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 09:00:52 No.51326560 Report

Quoted By: >>51330281 >>51331639

if pokémon is such a competitive game, why do they need to ban a shitton of things just to make it bearable?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 09:27:13 No.51326608 Report

Quoted By: >>51326909

>>51322967
This, I just looked up his channel to check for the video OP supposedly references, only to realize it doesn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 11:19:25 No.51326898 Report

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>>51322770
Terastal is easy to stop after it happens, unlike Dynamax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 11:22:11 No.51326909 Report

Quoted By: >>51326963

>>51326608
He talks abit about with Shofu in the trailer review

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 11:22:30 No.51326911 Report

Quoted By: >>51326992 >>51330207

>>51322770
>Unpredictable
Hmm... This Ttar is quad weak to fighting, so it could terrastalize into anything, like a normal type or an ice type! It will definitely not terrastalize into something like ghost!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 11:42:48 No.51326963 Report

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>>51326909
At most he says smogon might ban it, not that he thinks it should be banned. And he’s right. Smogon is filled with ban happy bitch babies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 11:55:08 No.51326992 Report

Quoted By: >>51328856

>>51326911
I know Ghost Tyranitar is a popular theorycraft because GF itself used it as a example, but it's probably going to be shit in practice because Ttar is heavily dependent on keeping its Rock type to function due to Sand Stream. This is probably going to be the case for a lot of already good Pokémon so it's going to make things a bit more predictable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 12:05:33 No.51327028 Report

Quoted By:

>>51322780
What else is there to do after the painfully short and linear singleplayers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 15:57:11 No.51328014 Report

Quoted By:

>>51326535
you have it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 17:35:23 No.51328668 Report

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>>51322770
This is guaranteed to happen on smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 18:02:33 No.51328856 Report

Quoted By: >>51328879 >>51333017

>>51326992
If it terastalizes to ground it would keep not taking damage from sandstorm and at the same time no longer be 4x weak to fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 18:05:45 No.51328879 Report

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>>51328856
But then it wouldn’t get the sand special defense boost that rock types get

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 18:10:10 No.51328903 Report

Quoted By:

>>51322770
SMOGONITES LOOK LIKE THAT!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:07:38 No.51330207 Report

Quoted By: >>51333330 >>51333542

>>51326911
Opinions like these are from absolute shitters.
What if T-tar is just not Tera and you're overthinking, since T-tar on it own is already viable?
What if my opponent, predicts my prediction and doesn't Terastalize?
Why would T-tar Tera into obvious ghost if Poison, Psychic, Fairy resist Fight?
Tera blast is free STAB so not even theorizing Tera type based on movepool can be possible...

This mechanic is going to be absolute shitshow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:18:19 No.51330281 Report

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>>51326560
Because singles is no longer a competitive game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:23:16 No.51330310 Report

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>>51322770
YES I NEED TO PREDICT EVERYTHING, WITH TERASTALIZE THE META WOULD TAKE MORE MONTHS THAN NORMAL TO GET STALE SO I CAN COUNTER THE SAME TEAM OVER AND OVER, WITH EVERY BATTLE HAVING AT LEAST 4 MIRROR MATCHES AND ABUSING THE TIMER TO STALL TIME AND WIN BECAUSE I WON THE COINFLIP ON THE FIRST TURN!

IT'S NOT FAIR! BAN IT! BAN IT! I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH FRESH AND NEW STRATS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:29:21 No.51330337 Report

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I'm literally losing hair and sleep. Not being able to predict eveything 5 seconds into the match makes me really really anxious.

I'm shaking, anons. They better ban it. My life depends on this decision and this decision alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:31:27 No.51330350 Report

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>>51322851
he might be a manlet but unlike u he does own a chin

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:37:25 No.51330388 Report

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I really hope that they ban it. It's not fair for me to calculate everything and PP stall the opponent's mon only for them to do something unpredictable offset and turn the table

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:39:34 No.51330396 Report

Quoted By: >>51330397

>>51322770
Someone explain to me why it’s a problem? So it makes games more unpredictable, isn’t that a good thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:39:59 No.51330397 Report

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>>51330396
No.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 21:50:35 No.51330434 Report

Quoted By: >>51331647

It depends on how constrained it is. If only one Pokemon can pull it off per side, and/or if any given Pokemon transformation has a limited number of type combinations, then it's not much of a problem at all. If all/multiple team members can change to have any type combination, then yeah; insta-ban.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 00:47:17 No.51331550 Report

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>>51322851
He’s a manlet?

Joeybros… we lost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 00:58:43 No.51331623 Report

Quoted By: >>51331633 >>51331709

>>51322770
Only Dynamax got banned, why are you acting like every gimmick gets banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 01:00:23 No.51331633 Report

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>>51331623
they just banned Gems in a decade old meta like a week ago so I don't even know what's possible anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 01:00:51 No.51331639 Report

Quoted By:

>>51326560
Singles without bans is not even remotely competitive.
Bans make it competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 01:01:52 No.51331647 Report

Quoted By:

>>51330434
We already know that it's once-per-battle, and that it's monotype only. Where have you been?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 01:11:55 No.51331709 Report

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>>51331623
It is a permanent 50% damage boost to STAB that stacks with choice band, Smogon has made it clear the upper bound of damage that is allowed is below that UNLESS it's coming from a type that has an immunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 05:10:30 No.51333017 Report

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>>51328856
Rock-types also get a 1.5x SpDef boost from sand, which is a lot more significant than just being immune to the chip damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 06:44:56 No.51333330 Report

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>>51330207
>Why would T-tar Tera into obvious ghost if Poison, Psychic, Fairy resist Fight?
Why are you acting like mono Poison/Psychic/Fairy/Ghost Ttar is a threatening presence at all beyond sponging a Fighting attack once? That's the biggest problem that makes most Terastals not worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 08:19:52 No.51333542 Report

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>>51330207
Tera blast is going to be a trap in team building since it either limits which pokemon you legitimately want to teratalize or it makes any pokemon that has the move worse by taking up a move slot if you don't teratalize.

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