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Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:17:30 No.51416508 View View Reply Original Report

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>her last two Pokemon are a Dynamaxed Togekiss and a Garchomp (that now can't Mega Evolve due to the 1 gimmick per battle rule) that only knows Dragon attacks and Stealth Rock against a Mega Lucario

They nerfed her hard to make Ash's win believable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:31:11 No.51416603 Report

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>>51416508
Cynthiabros...why did she use a G*lar gimmick...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:33:22 No.51416615 Report

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>>51416508
>They nerfed her hard to make Ash's win believable
true
she still might win

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:33:39 No.51416617 Report

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>>51416603
They have to nerf Cynthia so that Ash beats her somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:34:00 No.51416620 Report

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>>51416603
She also has a Mega, so she isnt chained to powerspots like leon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:34:14 No.51416622 Report

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>>51416508
>Cynthia throws dynamax ball with two hands
LMAO weakling

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:36:50 No.51416651 Report

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Deus Ex non-damaging moves and banned earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:37:34 No.51416656 Report

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>>51416508
Dianatha looks like she just saw the most bull shit thing ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:42:45 No.51416694 Report

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>>51416508
>They nerfed Cynthia into the ground because it was the only way the writers could conceivably have Ash win. And it's not remotely believable if you're over the age of 10.
Ftfy, you're welcome.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:47:15 No.51416727 Report

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oh no no no no no no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:50:03 No.51416744 Report

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>>51416727
>Zero ground moves
Cynthia Keks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:51:25 No.51416754 Report

Quoted By: >>51416804

Earthquake is banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 17:58:09 No.51416804 Report

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>>51416754
Only Earthquake, Fissure, and Magnitude, every other Ground-type move is still fair game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 18:01:50 No.51416833 Report

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>>51416727
One of the most retarded movesets I've seen in this shitshow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 18:02:39 No.51416841 Report

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>>51416620
She still had to use a gimmick this time around when Ash isn't. This is exactly like Irisfags predicted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 18:04:08 No.51416859 Report

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>>51416804
Bulldoze would be very doable as a ground version of tackle, or mud bomb or mud shot. The anime just doesn't want to acknowledge Ground type because then Pikachu would have a weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 18:06:16 No.51416880 Report

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>>51416859
They still use Ground type attacks, Gastrodon used Earth Power against Pikachu in this same battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 18:13:23 No.51416943 Report

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>>51416804
They used Magnitude in XY, which is literally just Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 18:15:24 No.51416959 Report

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>>51416943
The only time Magnitude was ever used was by Gary's Golem in the Johto League

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 18:25:36 No.51417058 Report

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>>51416744
Blame Japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:11:42 No.51417404 Report

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>>51416859
Cynthia's Gastrodon used Earth Power which Ash's Pikachu dodged in such a bullshit fashion while Diantha's Aurorus couldn't KO Lance's Dragonite because the anime is such an absolute crock of shit of a popularity contest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:20:56 No.51417477 Report

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>>51416841
>when Ash isn't.
are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:23:57 No.51417500 Report

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>>51416508
Why even have Ash here if you need to nerf the Champions to his level? It makes everyone look bad.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:32:17 No.51417553 Report

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>sets up Stealth Rock even though Ash's two remaining Pokemon both resist it and Sirfetch'd easily clears it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:35:51 No.51417575 Report

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>>51416727
They really gave up on her huh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:43:57 No.51417629 Report

Quoted By: >>51417654

The whole tournament is a joke and I'm not even remotely surprised by this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:47:18 No.51417653 Report

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>>51417553
S-She set hazards just like Paul did when he fought Ash! Please clap at the epic reference! Just ignore how utterly retarded and meaningless it was in the context of this battle unlike how in the battle with Paul hazards was a major piece of it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:47:21 No.51417654 Report

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>>51417629
If only they limited it to the Galar people I wouldn't be mad, but they had to drag everyone from every region so far to their level and made this joke of a championship.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:50:44 No.51417684 Report

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>>51416508
you’re insinuating that mega evolving Garchomp and having it use a STAB ground move against Lucario will instantly yield victory?
even if everything was logically within Cynthia’s favor, the anime will let Lucario tank as many earthquakes thrown at it, just like how Pikachu was able to avoid Gastrodon’s Earth Power by just “jumping”.
If the writers want Ash to win, he will win, and through the most infuriating way possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:53:19 No.51417706 Report

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>>51417553
>Hop: “Is that even possible?”
Through defog, not whatever bullshit move Ash is pulling out of his ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 19:53:27 No.51417708 Report

Quoted By: >>51418638

>>51417477
>are you retarded?
Are you? Ash using Mega Lucario means that he won't be using Z-moves or Dynamax.
Meanwhile Cynthia uses Dynamax as a crutch and will STILL lose.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 20:25:50 No.51417949 Report

Quoted By: >>51417962 >>51418664 >>51421085 >>51422678

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 20:27:13 No.51417962 Report

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>>51417949
Why is Infernape so autistic? No wonder Paul abandoned it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 20:35:17 No.51418028 Report

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Not sure why people acting like the anime should or has ever followed game logic, Ash has pulled dumb bullshit out of his ass multiple times before, I remember at least 2 different instances where Pikachu dodged what would be a fatal move by jumping, either normally or with his tail.

Anyway Cynthia is cringe and should have lost to Iris, everyone knew Cynthiafags were gonna throw a shitfit when she lost and the writing is on the wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 21:38:46 No.51418558 Report

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>>51416727
Lance's IQ is officially higher than Cynthia now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 21:40:01 No.51418567 Report

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>>51418028
>Irispedo
Opinion discarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 21:42:38 No.51418583 Report

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>>51416508
Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 21:43:55 No.51418590 Report

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A-bloo-bloo-bloo-bloo. The endgoal was always Ash vs Leon, just as SM's was Ash vs Kukui/Ash Vs Koko. Small wonder they're now not retiring their most popular champion as she's going to have her passion for battling re-ignitied (and extend the ubiquitous offer of a rematch battle to Ash in the future) as Ash moves forward to face the man who he was destined to fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 21:49:53 No.51418638 Report

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>>51417708
Mega is a gimmick, RETARD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 21:51:19 No.51418649 Report

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>>51416508
>They nerfed her hard to make Ash's win believable
of course, unnerfed Cynthia is unbeatable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Sep 2022 21:54:21 No.51418664 Report

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>>51417949
Ultra instinct Oak

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Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 01:11:27 No.51419850 Report

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>>51416620
>LEONLEONLEONLEONLEON

Mindbroken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 01:23:33 No.51419935 Report

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Why does it feel everyone got weaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 01:40:08 No.51420058 Report

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>>51416620
>she has a gimmic even though we said she didn't need one!
lol, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 01:48:43 No.51420108 Report

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>>51416508
>OP in the same breath dismisses the Pokemon anime having some logic (Togekiss losing to Mega Lucario and the whole one gimmick per battle rule. Additionally Mega Lucario beating 2 Pokemon just because) and says it has logic (Garchomp with a shitty moveset of 3 attacking dragon move losing to Mega Lucario) in the same breath.
Do you listen to yourself when you talk?

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Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 03:54:45 No.51420830 Report

Quoted By: >>51421156

These are the moves that Cynthia's Garchomp knows. Yes, the writings want her not to kill the Doggo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 03:58:20 No.51420846 Report

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>>51416620
Leon would sweep her with or without power spots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 04:39:40 No.51421004 Report

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>>51416603
>>51416617
Cynthia got too cocky. Pretty believable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 04:42:14 No.51421008 Report

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>>51416603
Cynthia confirmed Dynamax Togekiss + Garchomp > Togekiss + Mega Garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 04:58:26 No.51421085 Report

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>>51417949
krookodile......
should have been there desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 05:13:36 No.51421156 Report

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>>51420830
This is what you autists where complaining about? Brick break would just get blocked by a bullet punch counter and dig would get dodged. People calling Garchomp nerfed are brainlets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 05:26:54 No.51421210 Report

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>>51416943
Magnitude, Earthquake and Fissure are banned from appearing in the anime since Pokemon TS: Sapphire and Ruby

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 07:05:23 No.51421487 Report

Quoted By: >>51421506

>>51421210
Why? That's so retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 07:13:13 No.51421506 Report

Quoted By: >>51421534 >>51424462

I know retards here like to call Ash winning bad writing or whatever, but Ash losing would be a hundred times more bad and retarded. The whole season has been building up to him vs. Leon, even his bracket has him facing the #3, the #2 and eventually the #1. Cynthia's good, but it would make no thematic sense for her to win, and the only ones who want it to happen are Cynthiatards (the most annoying faggots in the franchise) or people who just hate Ash a lot. It wouldn't make sense for them to just battle it out outside the tournament, either, because if Ash can't beat Cynthia then he wouldn't stand a chance against Leon, despite Cynthiafags' arguments otherwise. There would be no weight to it.
>>51421487
Japan is the most seismically active country in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 07:26:17 No.51421534 Report

Quoted By: >>51421557 >>51424299

>>51421506
>Japan is the most seismically active country in the world.
That's really not a good excuse.
Nothing good comes from pussyfying your population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 07:32:51 No.51421553 Report

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>>51418664
Oak is a pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 07:34:33 No.51421557 Report

Quoted By: >>51421917

>>51421534
I'm sure the reason Japanese people grow up to be betas is because they wouldn't let Garchomp use Earthquake in the anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 09:12:40 No.51421783 Report

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>>51416727
Why are you guys freaking out over this? I haven't watched the show in a while, but do battles follow game rules now? Cause it doen't fucking matter when a grenigger dies to blast burn or you can aim for the horn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 10:04:23 No.51421917 Report

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>>51421557
It's part of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 10:23:12 No.51421987 Report

Quoted By: >>51422294

I'm guessing people who keep trying to apply game logic to the anime even though it barely ever follows it except when it randomly feels like it don't watch the anime right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 11:56:31 No.51422294 Report

Quoted By: >>51422371 >>51424592

>>51421987
Most trainers do fallow the game logic. What makes Ash special is that he doesn't, like how in the last episode his Sirfetch used Brutal Swing with it's shield instead of the sword to creat a makeshift Rapid Spin and clear the stealth rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 12:21:37 No.51422371 Report

Quoted By: >>51422630

>>51422294
Pretty much this.
It's like Ash is the only one with actual brain while rest (including some drooling retards among fans that screech about game mechanics when Ash does something out of the box.) are acting like they are mentally limited to game mechanics. The only reason why it's "bad writing" is because no other character even for a single second had an outside of the box idea. Rubbing two brain cells together is Ash's super special gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 13:18:17 No.51422630 Report

Quoted By: >>51424287

>>51422371
what about that one kid way back in the indigo league who melted the ice field with his arcanine?
he, too, was a chosen one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 13:27:04 No.51422678 Report

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>>51417949
ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA

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Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:11:34 No.51424287 Report

Quoted By: >>51424306 >>51424355

>>51422630
I must agree that Indigo League had few moments when others showed that they can use their brains. There was also girl with a freaking karate bellsprout that was even able to ground itself to completely nullify Pikachu's electric attacks and then destroyed little fucker in one kick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:13:07 No.51424296 Report

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>>51416804
> every other Ground-type move is still fair game
Except in the anime, Ground moves are almost always useless because you become immune when you jump
The only decent Ground move is Dig because the point of attack is hard to predict

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:14:16 No.51424299 Report

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>>51421534
>Nothing good comes from pussyfying your population.
All anime aired in Japan comes with a tinted screen as a direct response to the seizures caused by Porygon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:15:22 No.51424303 Report

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>>51416508
Dynamax truly is the worst gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:16:00 No.51424306 Report

Quoted By: >>51424320 >>51424324

>>51424287
pikachu's most embarrassing defeat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:19:03 No.51424320 Report

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>>51424306
I mean, that Bellsprout was on different level. I'm pretty sure if that girl would be in M8 tournament she would fuck up both Cynthia and Leon just with her Bellsprout. Especially that a lot of time was between that fight and now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:19:46 No.51424324 Report

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>>51424306
yeah, I went back and watched it again recently and after Ash realizes his attacks aren't working he just tells Pikachu to "hang in there"
doesn't tell him to use any attacks, just basically throw punches like a retard
I guess he was using STRUGGLE

Pikachu has really upped his close-combat game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:26:30 No.51424355 Report

Quoted By: >>51424404

>>51424287
Sending out Muk just to sponge all it's attacks was also cool. Absolute fucking crime that Muk only got used once more after that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:35:06 No.51424404 Report

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>>51424355
And that's how Pokemon fights should be in anime - it's a Pokemon fight but trainers are not playing simulation of in-game fights, so they are not limited by muh mechanics.
You can train Bellsprout in kung-fu and you can use Muk to overpower smaller Pokemon with its sheer mass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 18:47:27 No.51424462 Report

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>>51421506
>Ash vs. Leon
It's already set/rigged from the start (the seeding, promotional figures, and wallpaper placing Leon and Ash at the exact center) and every fans aside Leon's and Ash's still hallucinating over their own champ to reach and win the final with their own mental gymnastics. This tournament is a disaster, with bullshit plot armor; everyone knows that and yet still watch, and upset over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 19:09:26 No.51424579 Report

Quoted By: >>51424615

>>51416508
Not just that but they took away Dig and Flamethrower from Chomp
2 things that a LUCARIO is weak to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 19:11:47 No.51424592 Report

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>>51422294
The execution fails constantly, like in that very example where Sirfetch'd's shield magically has aimbot and can home in on all the blatantly invisible SRs for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 19:16:01 No.51424615 Report

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>>51424579
>Stealth Rock
>Draco Meteor
>Dragon Claw
>Scale Shot
yeah her moveset for this tournament sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Sep 2022 19:21:08 No.51424645 Report

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>>51416508
>Garchomp is a god that can rape entire teams
>Garchomp can't beat one (1) Pokemon with resisted moves
Which is it?

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