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Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:10:17 No.51465460 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51465509 >>51465515 >>51465553 >>51465666 >>51465894 >>51465984 >>51468505 >>51471815 >>51471884 >>51472808

>Hisuian voltorb implies that non-Hisuian voltorb (ie: normal gen1 voltorb) predates it
>Hisuian voltorb resembles the pokeball in Hisui, which predates the modern pokeball
>the Hisuian pokeball predates the normal pokeball, but normal gen1 voltorb must predate Hisuian voltorb
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:12:50 No.51465488 Report

Quoted By: >>51472796

Magnemite are ancient according to TCG promo art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:14:23 No.51465509 Report

Quoted By: >>51465522 >>51465541 >>51465563

>>51465460
Where does it say that the classic Voltorb predate it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:14:38 No.51465515 Report

Quoted By: >>51465541 >>51465563

>>51465460
>normal gen1 voltorb must predate Hisuian voltorb
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:15:23 No.51465522 Report

Quoted By: >>51465855

>>51465509
It doesn't, he's too retarded to understand what a pollution mon is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:16:47 No.51465541 Report

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>>51465509
>>51465515
In OP's headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:18:09 No.51465553 Report

Quoted By: >>51465601

>>51465460
>>Hisuian voltorb implies that non-Hisuian voltorb (ie: normal gen1 voltorb) predates it
No it doesn't. If anything, the implication is that Hisuian Voltorb is the original. Same shit as Galarian Zigzagoon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:19:00 No.51465563 Report

Quoted By: >>51465589 >>51465590 >>51465620 >>51466462 >>51467133 >>51467200 >>51467201 >>51468009 >>51472341 >>51472813

>>51465509
>>51465515
Hisuan voltorb's name implies the existance of non Hisian voltorbs, or they would just be called "voltorb"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:21:20 No.51465589 Report

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>>51465563
That's just a meta necesity because the old Voltorb was already released anon, don't be retarded.
Heck, does PLA even call it Hisuian? Because if its just in Home then that also makes sense in-universe anyways, the Voltorb you'll see everywhere is the regular one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:21:22 No.51465590 Report

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>>51465563
Yes, because Gamefreak designed Voltorb long before Hisuian Voltorb. They don't retcon species names like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:22:07 No.51465601 Report

Quoted By: >>51465634 >>51465649

>>51465553
But unlike Galarian zigzagoon, Hisuian voltorb is called such in a time period BEFORE normal voltorb even exists
>silver: It was discovered when Poké Balls were introduced. It is said that there is some connection.
>ruby: Voltorb was first sighted at a company that manufactures Poké Balls.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:24:53 No.51465620 Report

Quoted By: >>51465643 >>51475159

>>51465563
You just love pissing people off by pretending to not understand obvious things don't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:25:55 No.51465634 Report

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>>51465601
>>ruby: Voltorb was first sighted at a company that manufactures Poké Balls.
Correct, and Pokeballs didn't become mass-produced until AFTER Legends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:26:26 No.51465643 Report

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>>51465620
This is /vp/ to be fair, it might very well be the case that he doesn't understand obvious things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:27:07 No.51465649 Report

Quoted By: >>51465869

>>51465601
Show me in the game where Hisuian Voltorb is called Hisuian Voltorb within the context of the game by a character in the game. You can't. It's nomenclature meant for the audience retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:28:04 No.51465666 Report

Quoted By: >>51465679 >>51465680 >>51465690 >>51465698

>>51465460
The only explanation is that Voltorb predates the Poke Ball, which goes against everything we know about Voltorb's origins. It's possible that the Pokedex entries that claim stuff like it being first sighted in a Poke Ball factory are lies and that it existed beforehand. It could be a Koffing/Weezing situation where it existed before human intervention but was less common. It could also be that the MC of Legends specifically refers to it as Hisuian Voltorb because they're from the future and know about regular Voltorb, but this would mean any instance of any other NPC in that game referring to them by this name would be non-canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:29:41 No.51465679 Report

Quoted By: >>51465821

>>51465666
>The only explanation is that Voltorb predates the Poke Ball, which goes against everything we know about Voltorb's origins.
That's a simple one. The modern version of Voltorb was first reported when Pokeballs first started getting mass-produced some time after the events of Legends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:30:09 No.51465680 Report

Quoted By: >>51465708 >>51465821

>>51465666
>The only explanation is that Voltorb predates the Poke Ball
It's literally made out of used thrown pokeballs that came to life just like modern day Voltorb. Not going to read the rest of that surely retarded garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:31:02 No.51465688 Report

Quoted By: >>51465698

Pokedex lore literally got thrown out the window with the Sword/Shield fossils. It's time to stop caring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:31:14 No.51465690 Report

Quoted By: >>51465821 >>51465869

>>51465666
It's just called Voltorb and Electrode in PLA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:31:43 No.51465698 Report

Quoted By: >>51467009

>>51465666
>The only explanation is that Voltorb predates the Poke Ball, which goes against everything we know about Voltorb's origins.
Good thing the thing you want to explain isn't true then.

>his would mean any instance of any other NPC in that game referring to them by this name would be non-canon
such as?

>>51465688
How can you throw lore out of a window?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:33:17 No.51465708 Report

Quoted By: >>51465834

>>51465680
>It's literally made out of used thrown pokeballs that came to life just like modern day Voltorb.
Can't be the case. Voltorb and Electrode were around to be used by the original hero of Hisui, and they state ingame that Pokeballs were only recently invented.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:43:03 No.51465821 Report

Quoted By: >>51465842 >>51465869 >>51465915 >>51466087 >>51472347

>>51465679
>>51465680
Like I said, I'm aware this contradicts Voltorb's supposed origins. The source for most of those claims is the Pokedex, which we all know isn't holy writ.
>>51465690
It's clearly marked as "Hisuian Form" in the Pokedex. Now, this could just be unique to the MC's Pokedex as a little note for their own sake, though it would still be extremely confusing in an official capacity, if this Pokedex is supposed to serve as a record of all Pokemon in the region. Surely that distinction would cause some head-scratching from the locals. The only way to be sure would be to go through the game's entire dialogue and check to see if any of the NPCs from the time period the game takes place in also refers to it as Hisuian Voltorb or just Voltorb, and I'm way too fucking lazy to follow up on that. I think it's just safer to assume that either Hisuian Voltorb retcons regular Voltorb's origins, or that Hisuian Voltorb was first and is only classified as a Hisuian Pokemon for the sake of simplicity, since the only other option would've been to classify it as a completely different Pokemon, which is kinda obtuse.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:44:00 No.51465834 Report

Quoted By: >>51465853

>>51465708
Don't think about it. These cunts have maybepokeballs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:44:48 No.51465842 Report

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>>51465821
Maybe there are other voltorbs based on other older balls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:46:46 No.51465853 Report

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>>51465834
Those are handgrenades

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:47:00 No.51465855 Report

Quoted By: >>51465938

>>51465522
there's no pollution in Hisui retard. that's your faggot hwadcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:48:03 No.51465869 Report

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>>51465649
>>51465690
>>51465821
>find an npc
None of the regional forms are mentioned by npcs, they always just say "zigzagoon" or "geodude". The closest we get is the equally retarded "kantonian mr mime" bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:50:26 No.51465894 Report

Quoted By: >>51469901

>>51465460
You know that they refer to a "Kantonian Mr. Mime" in SwSh, right? The only thing that implies time in a regional identifier is your knowledge of the games and their release order. They can, and will, retcon as they please

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:52:46 No.51465915 Report

Quoted By: >>51465939

>>51465821
It's also worth noting that Hisuian Voltorb's classification in Legends is specifically changed from Ball Pokemon to Sphere Pokemon, severing the last connection it had with modern Poke Balls and even Poke Balls in general, since it clearly predates Legends' Poke Balls and the resemblance is painted as a coincidence rather than one being responsible for the existence of the other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:55:10 No.51465938 Report

Quoted By: >>51465974

>>51465855
Just because nobody is burning something like coal and oil (oh wait yeah they are you moron) doesn't mean there's no pollution. You pollute the planet every time you throw something non biodegradable away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:55:14 No.51465939 Report

Quoted By: >>51465960 >>51466839 >>51467012

>>51465915
Interesting. So they aren't mimicking as pokeballs, just so happen to look like them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:57:17 No.51465960 Report

Quoted By: >>51466063

>>51465939
>So they aren't mimicking as pokeball
They're mimicking the apricorns used to make them. They are part Grass, after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:58:20 No.51465974 Report

Quoted By: >>51466028

>>51465938
that doesn't create a ball with eyes. hwadcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 12:59:35 No.51465984 Report

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>>51465460
That's a meta classification dumbo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:04:00 No.51466028 Report

Quoted By: >>51466049 >>51466365 >>51466406

>>51465974
That's how all the other pollution pokemon were created. Inb4 you make the same willfully ignorant comment on par with nobody knowing where eggs come from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:07:27 No.51466049 Report

Quoted By: >>51466083 >>51466154

>>51466028
>nobody knowing where eggs come from.
We have a book having adults talking among themselves on the subject and confirming they don't.
You are being willfully ignorant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:09:20 No.51466063 Report

Quoted By: >>51466141

>>51465960
That's a total guess on your part, we don't know that. Keep in mind that Poke Balls made of Apricorns are relatively new to Hisui, the locals don't use them. I find it a little hard to believe that something like Hisuian Voltorb could come to mimic such a recent invention. The Pokedex in Legends says it "happens to bear a resemblance to a Poke Ball", so I'm much more comfortable simply leaving it as a coincidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:12:20 No.51466083 Report

Quoted By: >>51466099

>>51466049
Oh my god you couldn't help yourself could you. Yeah bro, it's all a real big mystery how any of this lore works, out is all just such a MYSTERY isn't it. It's not like you're meant to put these simple things together yourself like this is THE babby's first RPG franchise or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:13:11 No.51466087 Report

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>>51465821
>since the only other option would've been to classify it as a completely different Pokemon, which is kinda obtuse.
Should note that there is a third option, which would've been to ignore regular Voltorb's existence entirely and just refer to Hisuian Voltorb as Voltorb at all times, but this would've been confusing, so it's understandable why they avoided it. I'm sure the last thing they want is the existence of regional forms causing confusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:14:46 No.51466099 Report

Quoted By: >>51466131 >>51466154

>>51466083
> It's not like you're meant to put these simple things together yourself like this is THE babby's first RPG franchise or anything.
Exactly, its a babby's first RPG franchise, meaning you should be able to understand it if you're old enough to post here, yet you can't idrectly interpret the text they give you.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:19:23 No.51466131 Report

Quoted By: >>51466154

>>51466099
You were just a moment ago complaining about other people telling you how it is and calling it headcanon lmao. Pic related, that's u nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:20:37 No.51466141 Report

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>>51466063
Yes this is most likely the case. In Pokémon the object-like Pokémon aren't objects themselves and according to pokedex entries may have served as the inspiration for the objects they're inspired off in the real world in-universe. Like Klink inspiring the design of real cogs in-universe. In Legends of Arceus Laventon says that Magnemite's arms resemble horse-shoe magnets implying they're not magnets but only look like them. Same deal with H. Voltorb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:21:48 No.51466154 Report

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>>51466131
I just posted >>51466099 and >>51466049, not the previous posts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:28:18 No.51466191 Report

Quoted By: >>51466199 >>51466203 >>51470790

Even if you take Hisuian Voltorb at face value, that it's a precursor to modern Voltorb, it still doesn't make sense that they seemingly emerged solely in Hisui and not in the rest of the world where apricorn Pokeballs were already commonly used, such as presumably the greater Kanto and Johto area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:29:52 No.51466199 Report

Quoted By: >>51466488

>>51466191
That's probably just because its Hisui where we saw it for the first time and they do look the same everywhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:30:49 No.51466203 Report

Quoted By: >>51466488

>>51466191
Because they don't mimic Pokeballs. They were around centuries before Legends. Remember the original hero had one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:50:51 No.51466365 Report

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>>51466028
"t-thats where my headcanon comes from". still a headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 13:54:44 No.51466406 Report

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>>51466028
>nobody knowing where eggs come from
we don't. they're more like nests that appear on their own as far as anyone can tell, rather than 'eggs' as you understand them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 14:00:40 No.51466462 Report

Quoted By: >>51466563

>>51465563
Isnt hisuian voltorb also electric?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 14:04:00 No.51466488 Report

Quoted By:

>>51466199
>>51466203
But that's still odd. So we know for a fact Voltorb was around centuries before Pokeballs, but were apparently common only in Hisui to the point where they're considered native species, despite the fact that apricorn trees are presumably common elsewhere, Johto at least.
It's just kind of clumsy lore because it implies Voltorb's origin has no real ties to Pokeballs or even apricorns, obviously driven by the marketing and gameplay need for Voltorb to be classed as a regional form and not just "past Voltorb".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 14:13:32 No.51466563 Report

Quoted By: >>51466748

>>51466462
The issue is the name
>HISUIAN voltorb, normal voltorb (gen1) must exist to explain this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 14:35:10 No.51466748 Report

Quoted By: >>51467014

>>51466563
That's just a meta name for the player. The game assumes you know about regular Voltorb (your character comes from the future, after all). No NPC in the entire game refers to them as "Hisuian". Just as Voltorb or Electrode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 14:44:40 No.51466839 Report

Quoted By: >>51466919

>>51465939
They're not mimicking, they're literally used apicorb balls that became alive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 14:52:57 No.51466919 Report

Quoted By: >>51467184

>>51466839
>they're literally used apicorb balls that became alive.
They existed long before they were even invented. Read the goddamn thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:02:30 No.51467009 Report

Quoted By: >>51467206

>>51465698
>How can you throw lore out of a window?
Cara Liss directly fed misinformation to the Pokedex by fabricating past lives and reasons for extinction from her mismatched abominations that only started to exist when she made them, and the officials behind the Pokedex took it at face value and now it's accepted as global fact that these affronts to God were "real prehistoric Pokemon" with their own Pokedex numbers and all.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:02:51 No.51467012 Report

Quoted By: >>51467206 >>51469755

>>51465939
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:03:05 No.51467014 Report

Quoted By: >>51467082

>>51466748
This is true for literally every regional form, but the pokedex makes the distinction, calling it hisuian voltorb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:09:18 No.51467065 Report

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Hisuian Voltorb is a cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:10:55 No.51467082 Report

Quoted By:

>>51467014
Again, that's just for the player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:16:40 No.51467133 Report

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>>51465563
You're a fucking retarded faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:21:18 No.51467184 Report

Quoted By:

>>51466919
time travel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:22:37 No.51467200 Report

Quoted By: >>51471753

>>51465563
Just in case you really don't get it, there are normal Voltorb all over the world, but the Hisuian variant is unique to Hisui. Even if Hisui was first, the normal Voltorb has become the universally accepted standard. Cavemen are the original people, but they're still the ones that have the "cave" added to the name instead of them being referred to as just "men" and us being called "modernmen" or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:22:43 No.51467201 Report

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>>51465563
The og voltorb is Kantonian Voltorb now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:22:53 No.51467206 Report

Quoted By: >>51467300

>>51467012
That's Klink, a different mon, and Magearna exists.
>>51467009
And where is a window involved?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:36:34 No.51467300 Report

Quoted By: >>51467311

>>51467206
>Magearna exists
Magearna's a manmade Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:38:26 No.51467311 Report

Quoted By: >>51467328

>>51467300
That's the point, yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:40:15 No.51467328 Report

Quoted By: >>51467342 >>51467347

>>51467311
Klink inspired the invention of gears, which were eventually used to create Magearna. What point were you even trying to make?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:42:53 No.51467342 Report

Quoted By: >>51467358 >>51467387

>>51467328
>Klink: According to Professor Juniper, the first recorded evidence of this Pokémon dates to around 100 years ago, in the Chargestone Cave; she believes that it suddenly appeared in the cave at that time.

>Magearna: This is its form from almost 500 years ago. Its body is nothing more than a container—its artificial heart is the actual life-form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:43:17 No.51467347 Report

Quoted By: >>51467373

>>51467328
Magearna's entries state it was made 500 years before modern times, but Juniper says Klink was discovered about a 100 years prior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:44:12 No.51467358 Report

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>>51467342
GF retconning their own lore is nothing new, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:45:22 No.51467373 Report

Quoted By: >>51467387 >>51467389

>>51467347
>discovered
And Okapis were only discovered 100 years ago too. That doesn't mean they just suddenly started existing at that time.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:47:11 No.51467387 Report

Quoted By: >>51471830

>>51467342
>>51467373
>It's suspected that Klink were the inspiration behind ancient people's invention of the first gears.
>women scientists

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:47:18 No.51467389 Report

Quoted By: >>51467419

>>51467373
That's not a counterexample anon, try to read the conversation properly.
It doesn't matter when Klink started existing, if it was documented just 100 years ago then any gear should be posterior to that.
If klink inspired the creation of gears Magearna alone is documentation they existed prior to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:50:51 No.51467419 Report

Quoted By: >>51467431 >>51467437

>>51467389
So it got retconned. And?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:51:54 No.51467431 Report

Quoted By: >>51467461

>>51467419
That's not a retcon. You're just not allowed to connect these two facts. Both are true but not together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:52:21 No.51467437 Report

Quoted By: >>51467650

>>51467419
There's the other issue of Klink not being Voltorb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:55:20 No.51467461 Report

Quoted By: >>51467477

>>51467431
If two pieces of lore seemingly contradict each other, I go off whichever is more recent. BW came out over a decade ago, and SwSh was when they put forth the idea of them inspiring the invention of gears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 15:58:21 No.51467477 Report

Quoted By:

>>51467461
I would consider old lore over the new one in the context of older games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 16:17:11 No.51467650 Report

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>>51467437
The point is to show that two things can look alike and be unrelated. In the case of klink not being related to gears and h. voltorb not being related to pokeballs, both just happen to look like said things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 17:04:29 No.51468009 Report

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>>51465563
From an in-universe perspective, maybe Hisuian Viltorb got memory holed since it never made it out of Hisui or to the present day, then was named recently after fossils of it were discovered?
From a meta perspective its just that Voltorb was designed in 1994 and Hisuian Voltorb was designed in 2020

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Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 18:14:14 No.51468505 Report

Quoted By: >>51468519 >>51470817

>>51465460
Ready for a shocker? nu-Pokemon is sanitized trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 18:16:13 No.51468519 Report

Quoted By: >>51470579

>>51468505
Hisuian Pokemon are canonically forgotten because pokedex kids were born too late

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 21:42:05 No.51469755 Report

Quoted By: >>51469774

>>51467012
>Ancient people
>First recorded appearance was 100 years before BW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 21:45:24 No.51469774 Report

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>>51469755
As another anon said retcons are a thing. Instead of only appearing 100 years ago klinks instead may have been the inspiration for gears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 22:13:06 No.51469901 Report

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>>51465894
Even further back in Sun/Moon, Hau calls the Meowth at home "Kantonian Meowth".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Sep 2022 23:57:59 No.51470579 Report

Quoted By: >>51470805 >>51472785

>>51468519
>canonically forgotten
Source? H-zoroark is in paldea so they were rediscovered in modern times somehow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 00:28:24 No.51470790 Report

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>>51466191
Apricorn balls where where white/red at the start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 00:30:04 No.51470805 Report

Quoted By: >>51470832

>>51470579
Until we actually play ScarVio, it's best to assume that that's just a meta thing too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 00:31:12 No.51470817 Report

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>>51468505
This has not changed, there is some connection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 00:32:42 No.51470832 Report

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>>51470805
This is /vp/, you don't have to actually play the game to discuss its content.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 03:25:05 No.51471753 Report

Quoted By: >>51471779

>>51467200
>durrr caveman are called caveman
No shit that's because we named them that to distinguish them from the normal men at the time. Cavemen didn't go around saying "hi Im a caveman" you dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 03:31:48 No.51471779 Report

Quoted By: >>51471997

>>51471753
Not that anon, but you have elevated levels of retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 03:40:03 No.51471815 Report

Quoted By: >>51471838 >>51471986

>>51465460
No, regional forms do not automatically predate the standard forms. Alolan Exeggcutor explicitly states that it's originally native to Alola and can only grow short and stout in other regions. You're entire thesis is incorrect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 03:44:40 No.51471830 Report

Quoted By: >>51472790

>>51467387
This is funny, you're funny to me. I'm laughing at you. "Scientist" was originally a gendered term for women only. There were Men of Science, and there were Scientists. It was meant to be a derogatory term, that sounded similar to stylist or other female dominated jobs. It wasn't until later people decided to go with it as the universal term. Being smug about women scientists when all scientists are women is just stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 03:46:16 No.51471838 Report

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>>51471815
>You are entire thesis is incorrect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 03:58:29 No.51471884 Report

Quoted By: >>51472106

>>51465460
Only explanation is timetravel shit.
Voltorb probably evolved from a Pineco or something in the future to mimic Pokeballs, them some voltorb got sent to the past and evolved again to mimic the older style of pokeball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 04:18:50 No.51471986 Report

Quoted By: >>51472160

>>51471815
H voltorb DOES predate voltorb because LA takes place before voltorb and the red and white pokeball even existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 04:21:14 No.51471997 Report

Quoted By: >>51472079

>>51471779
>can't think of anything to say except "y-you're retarded"
It's ok to be wrong anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 04:33:53 No.51472079 Report

Quoted By:

>>51471997
What else is there to say? It's genuinely all that's needed here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 04:39:45 No.51472106 Report

Quoted By:

>>51471884
No, Voltorb evolved into Electrode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 04:49:58 No.51472160 Report

Quoted By: >>51472187

>>51471986
I'm sorry that you're illiterate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 04:54:14 No.51472187 Report

Quoted By: >>51472271

>>51472160
Show me the line of text that proves me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 05:03:59 No.51472232 Report

Quoted By:

Pokeballs are made out of voltorb. They changed when the voltorbs evolved over time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 05:14:46 No.51472271 Report

Quoted By:

>>51472187
You don't understand, again. You're arguing against the thing that I said wasn't the case. The only explanation is that you're illiterate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 05:32:38 No.51472341 Report

Quoted By: >>51472357

>>51465563
The ONLY place in the entire game it's called a "Hisuian form" is in the Pokedex. All of the NPCs just call it "Voltorb".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 05:35:02 No.51472347 Report

Quoted By:

>>51465821
>The only way to be sure would be to go through the game's entire dialogue and check to see if any of the NPCs from the time period the game takes place in also refers to it as Hisuian Voltorb or just Voltorb
https://paste. ee/r/PLl7M/0
Nobody uses the term "Hisuian" anywhere in the game. It's a term exclusive to the Pokedex.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 05:37:27 No.51472357 Report

Quoted By: >>51475170

>>51472341
True for almost every regional pokemon ever, except for "kantonian" in instances where they contrast it to the regional form. Also:
>galarian meowth and... meowth
This shit is inconsistent as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 07:52:17 No.51472785 Report

Quoted By:

>>51470579
>Source? H-zoroark is in paldea so they were rediscovered in modern times somehow
forgotten in Sinnoh at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 07:53:39 No.51472790 Report

Quoted By:

>>51471830
>offended by a joke
>has to pull out some old terminology to be right
go back to the kitchen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 07:55:58 No.51472796 Report

Quoted By:

>>51465488
what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 08:01:26 No.51472808 Report

Quoted By:

>>51465460
>>the Hisuian pokeball predates the normal pokeball, but normal gen1 voltorb must predate Hisuian voltorb
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 08:02:39 No.51472813 Report

Quoted By: >>51472842

>>51465563
The North American Alligator dies not imply the existence of any other gator, only that it lives in North America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 08:15:29 No.51472842 Report

Quoted By:

>>51472813
Interesting choice of example, as the american alligator is named such to distinguish it from the separate species of chinese alligator. For people who are not aware of the much less common chinese alligator, the only other extant species, it is colloqially known as just an "alligator" or "common gator" as to most there is only kind. If Hvoltorb was the only one known, it would similarly be called just "voltorb"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 08:21:02 No.51472853 Report

Quoted By: >>51474427 >>51475078

Doesn't matter
It's just a video game, they aren't limited by your gay little rules
They can permanently make Typhlosion water/grass and make all its stats 23 and you can't do a fucking thing to stop them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 16:11:13 No.51474427 Report

Quoted By:

>>51472853
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 18:13:03 No.51475078 Report

Quoted By:

>>51472853
I already have a mental image of all the underage mentally ill troons defending that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 18:29:05 No.51475159 Report

Quoted By:

>>51465620
You must be new to 4chan. That's literally 95% of what anybody does when they post here. Maybe 90%, if you're on a particularly kind board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Sep 2022 18:31:02 No.51475170 Report

Quoted By:

>>51472357
She says earlier in the dialogue that the Kantonian Meowth is from Kanto. She’s just telling you that you need to specifically trade her a Meowth from Galar

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