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Quoted By: >>51477526 >>51477532 >>51477587
>Ash's victory at the Alola league doesn't count because you didn't need badges to compete and some trainers had unevolved pokémon. His victory against champion-tier trainer Kukui doesn't count either
>Yes, Red's victory in the manga totally counts even though he didn't earn every badge, the league didn't have any requirements to compete and the strongest trainer quit the tournament just to give Red a chance at winning because Red was nowhere near his level. Red is definitely a champion even though the manga leagues work the same way as the anime minor leagues, meaning he's way below E4-tier and thus way below actual champion-tier
Why?
>Yes, Red's victory in the manga totally counts even though he didn't earn every badge, the league didn't have any requirements to compete and the strongest trainer quit the tournament just to give Red a chance at winning because Red was nowhere near his level. Red is definitely a champion even though the manga leagues work the same way as the anime minor leagues, meaning he's way below E4-tier and thus way below actual champion-tier
Why?
