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>>51530220
I just beat the first boss so I'm not too far (I'm only 7 hours in) but my thoughts are of such:

Cons:
>You can't switch Pokemon out on the fly from the farms to your team, in a game like this, you're building up several at once, so it becomes kind of a drag. While the six-pokemon limit is fine for battles, it is a bit tedious having to warp around just to swap out for context sensitive situations
>It's not clear how to make Pokemon spawn without a guide and their conditions. This might be a pro for some who love to experiment and hunt, though

Pros:
>The agile/strong style is a great system especially for catching Pokemon. You can weaken any move or if you want to go big, strengthen any move. I would like to see this further expanded upon in the future.
>Exploring the map with a full 3D Camera makes this the first true console 3D Pokemon game I've always wanted
>Day/Night Cycle is not tied to irl time making it a lot less tedious. Good idea back in the day but now it's time to move away from it being set to irl time, in my opinion.
>The atmosphere is impeccable. Don't listen to the anons posting the bad screenshots, the world, the sounds, the music, everything really pops. The game is beautiful in motion
>The stealth catching mechanics is simple, but really well done. If you throw a ball to their back, it will give you a benefit, and if you initiate a battle from behind, it gives you an extra turn ala a lot of JRPGs with visable enemies on the map
>The Pokemon really feel alive in this one, you can just observe them doing their things and they all have their own distinct personalities

This is just my impressions 7 hours in but so far it's just a shake-up I've been wanting from the series in a long while. I'll be okay with Scarlet/Violet moving back to a more traditional style, though.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 17:54:32 No.51530293 Report

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>>51530220
Pros: a fresh break from standard pokemon game mechanics. The battle is fluid and fast. There's no random encounter but you can still get chased by rabid pokemon if you're not careful, adding a sense of suspense that SwSh lacked. Missions (and story mode) actually feels optional. You can spend dozens of time exploring the same area without having to worry about missions and story plot. Characters are full of expressions and colorful. Shiny rate is ridiculously high (not sure whether this is a pro for some players) but in exchange, you can do somethong more addictive (shiny Alpha hunt for example). Plot wise, the story seems kinda linear. But there are some pleasant twists that could surprise you if you don't read spoilers beforehand.

Cons: some mechanics are too far removed from traditional gameplay, die hard fans (especially genwunners) won't like this game. Graphics could've been better and more unique but it look too much like BotW. A lot of favorite moves were culled (even though they added new ones). I was slightly disappointed that they divided the region into several distinct areas instead of one continuous landmass but eventually I kinda understand why they did that. Not enough new pokemon/regional forms to satisfy the Collector in me.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 18:36:30 No.51530552 Report

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>>51530263
>>51530293
Im excited! Thanks anons!

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 18:41:20 No.51530580 Report

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>>51530220
pros: bare feet on MC
cons: bag inventory guy is an asshole

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 18:43:26 No.51530593 Report

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>>51530197
I tried, but I couldn't enjoy this game. It just was not fun.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 19:03:05 No.51530712 Report

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>>51530197
Why cant vaporeon swim?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 19:04:52 No.51530725 Report

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The best pokemon game since HG/SS.
The graphics were shit but the gameplay was a BIG step forward.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 19:06:39 No.51530734 Report

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nobody cares about your reterded opinions stop bumping your own thread

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 19:07:02 No.51530743 Report

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The story is a massive slog, don't bother with pressing on forward if you don't enjoy lingering around each area doing missions before moving on.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 19:13:51 No.51530789 Report

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>>51530197
Honestly, it's the first game with a tangible sense of creative vision since BW2, and some of the characters are pretty cool. The post game is good too. Enjoy, anon.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 19:18:54 No.51530838 Report

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 20:35:27 No.51531319 Report

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I agree with everything that's been highlighted above. It's the most fun I've had with Pokemon in years.

I really hope we get a sequel. I don't care what region they do.. Legends was so fun. I do hope they continue the whole building up the town and giving almost every npc a quest line and partner pokemon. That was really comfy and made the town feel more alive.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 20:38:52 No.51531346 Report

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>>51530734
You know you can see how many unique IPs are in a thread, right?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 20:46:10 No.51531391 Report

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>>51530789
ah yes I loved BW2's creative vision

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 20:47:44 No.51531397 Report

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>>51530789
so much creative vision bros

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 20:48:47 No.51531400 Report

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>>51530789
This, so much this!

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 20:54:32 No.51531431 Report

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>>51530789
this, I loved how creative BW2 was! they even finally stopped mindlessly copy/pasting gyms from KANTOOOO and had unique challenging totem bosses!

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 20:55:09 No.51531436 Report

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>>51531391
>>51531397
>>51531400
>>51531431
are you okay

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 20:57:26 No.51531450 Report

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>>51530789
this. BW2 is the magnum opus of the series in terms of effort and creativity, and nothing well ever top it.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 21:12:28 No.51531533 Report

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>>51531436
Hes just a discord tranny

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 21:34:24 No.51531685 Report

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PLA is somewhat lacking in content (mainly just trainer battles I guess) but mechanically it is my favorite Pokémon game by a mile. It’s the first one in the whole 25 old year series that plays substantially differently than Gen 1.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 21:40:04 No.51531723 Report

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>>51530293
>especially genwunners
Anon, those aren't the ones complaining about everything that was removed, like you are.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:14:24 No.51531931 Report

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>>51531723
>spdef stat
>abilities
>held items
>weather & field effects
>terrains & sound moves
>double battles
>balanced type chart
Genwunners are RETARDS dude

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:19:35 No.51531958 Report

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>>51531450
Yes.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:21:32 No.51531968 Report

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smart men itt

not the bw2 screenshots guy though, he's a dumb motherfucker

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:22:28 No.51531972 Report

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>>51531968
>reusing dialogue and maps is creative guys trust me

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:24:24 No.51531977 Report

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stay on-topic, please

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:25:23 No.51531979 Report

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>>51531977
BW2 fans are physically incapable of having a discussion without randomly bringing up a lie about their game to make it seem better than it is

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:25:50 No.51531981 Report

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>stay on-topic, please

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:26:34 No.51531986 Report

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I just cannot get into this game for the life of me. I don't enjoy the catching and I hate the noble fights, on top of how bad the story is even by Pokemon standards.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:28:16 No.51531991 Report

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>>51531981
>BW2 fans are physically incapable of having a discussion without randomly bringing up a lie about their game to make it seem better than it is

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Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2022 22:29:08 No.51531993 Report

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oh no their bot is broken

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 00:23:03 No.51532687 Report

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>>51531723
>t. schizo

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 02:23:57 No.51533238 Report

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>>51530220
Most fun I've had with a pokemon game since finding the Regis in gen 3 with my cousin on summer vacation
First pokedex I've ever completed
The way the open world and battles and catching all work is all 10/10. Every future main pokemon game should be this but with a bigger and more detailed maps and with towns and gyms, and the normal status effects back

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 02:28:13 No.51533259 Report

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>>51530293
I've been playing every game since gen one since I was 6, this is the best pokemon game yet
All it needs is a story, some towns and gyms, maybe a good dungeon or two and it would be the game my friends and I used to day dream about in 5th grade

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 02:57:30 No.51533392 Report

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>>51533238
>Every future main pokemon game should be this
Please no
If this stuff needs to be in future games, at least leave them in side games like this so I can ignore it

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 02:59:04 No.51533398 Report

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>>51533392
>NOOOOO DON’T IMPROVE THE GAMES I WANT THEM TO BE THE SAME STAGNANT GARBAGE FOREVER
let me guess your favorite game is BW2 right?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 03:02:48 No.51533409 Report

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This is my favorite Pokemon game to just run around in, when S/V comes out I'll probably shiny hunt in it for whatever teams I want to make for post game battles.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 03:05:33 No.51533415 Report

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>>51533398
Its not an improvement if I don't personally enjoy it
Go back to discord, no one is talking about Gen 5 here

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 03:06:21 No.51533419 Report

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>>51533415
>muh discord boogieman
So I was right, your favorite game IS bw2 lmao
you're all the fucking same

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 03:24:07 No.51533487 Report

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>>51533419
>muh anti-gen5 boogieman
oh the irony

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 05:41:03 No.51534065 Report

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>>51530293
>die hard fans (especially genwunners) won't like this game.
Yeah, no. I'm a genwunner, and this is probably the most fun I've had playing a Pokemon game in over 20 years barring the Mystery Dungeon games. It's more or less exactly what I always wanted from a Pokemon game - a true 3D game with functional camera, environments that feel like actual places, Pokemon behaving like living animals, and the fact that the Pokemon themselves are being treated as actually dangerous creatures that can and will kill you if you aren't careful, which harkens back to the vibes the old games gave off, are all pluses for me.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 05:42:28 No.51534074 Report

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>>51533487
It's not a boogieman when it's a fact.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 05:45:10 No.51534083 Report

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>>51534065
>I'm a genwunner, and this is probably the most fun I've had
You are an infidel

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 05:54:17 No.51534113 Report

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>>51534083
Do you know why genwunners are genwunners? Because pokemon has been rehashing the exact same game for over 20 years with little to no changes to the formula when all people wanted back then was having fun exploring and catching pokemon.
And mainline just keeps getting further and further from that concept.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 06:02:34 No.51534136 Report

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>>51534113
>Do you know why genwunners are genwunners?
Because they like gen one?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 06:02:42 No.51534137 Report

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Pokemon in this just move in circles like retards in big empty spaces.

How the fuck do they feel alive lol.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 06:06:08 No.51534150 Report

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>>51534137
Name one pokemon game where the pokemon doesn't walk in circles. Roaming pokemon doesn't count because PLA also has them

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 06:06:36 No.51534151 Report

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>>51534137
Versus Pokemon magically appearing out of thin air every few steps and having nothing in the way of animations during combat?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 06:07:02 No.51534153 Report

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>>51534136
You can like gen one while liking other gens.
Genwunners specifically failed to like other gens for several reasons.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 08:21:49 No.51534520 Report

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 08:34:08 No.51534539 Report

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>>51530197
Based OP.
I will play PLA and continue to play it instead of SV trash.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 08:43:50 No.51534558 Report

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>>51530220
As someone whose beaten the game
Pros:
>it feels different, in a good way
>the characters are interesting and I found I didn't particularly dislike any of them except at certain moments
>Catching pokemon and the dodging system is clunky, but ultimately fun and somewhat engaging
>Trade evolutions no longer being trade evolutions and the introduction the linking cord are some of the best QoL changes in pokemon ever and I sincerely hope they carry over to SV
>day/night cycle not being tied to actual times means you no longer have to datetime scum and is nice
>pokemon look nice and while I disagree with a good amount of the dispositions they all interesting in their own way

Cons:
>The battling system is incredibly infuriating and genuinely made me want to stop playing at several points. The stance system doesn't bring enough to the table with the way turns work now, and the absence of abilities. Battling multiple pokemon and the giratina fight towards the end was some of the worst experiences I've ever had in a pokemon game
>while I understand why they did it, if any pokemon game needed the ability to switch out teams on the fly, it was this one. But it doesn't have that feature
>There isn't much real gameplay aside from just catching pokemon, with the best we get being balloon races. At least the freelc sorta fixed this with the arceus battle tower but it still feels very empty

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 10:30:38 No.51534793 Report

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>>51534558
I can understand why the game wouldn’t let you send out your entire team for a battle. But I don’t get why they got rid of double battles. Especially in a game like this that gives you more freedom in how you want to approach Pokemon compared to previous games. Makes the battles with multiple Pokemon more annoying than fun. Still a good game overall though.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 11:08:51 No.51534864 Report

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>>51534558
I actually found the battling much more dynamic and punishing, and agile/strong moves added some depth (although not a lot). The level curve was also very good imo. I was never too far ahead/behind.

Saving and switching teams would have been a godsend.

The graphics didn't bother me, but it would have been nice for pokemon to have uses outside of battles. Nobles can transport you, but they are not *your* pokemon. It would have been so fucking cool to need fire pokemon in the ice biome to not freeze, or at least some puzzles which were not glorified memorization.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 11:44:22 No.51534934 Report

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>>51530220
I enjoyed it a lot but it's true that once you finish it, that's it

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 11:50:24 No.51534939 Report

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>>51530263
>It's not clear how to make Pokemon spawn without a guide and their conditions. This might be a pro for some who love to experiment and hunt, though
Isn't that the whole point? Why would you want to break immersion during gameplay? If you want to find some specific mon just look up guides like you said.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Sep 2022 11:53:32 No.51534952 Report

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>>51530197
Gosh, Let people hate things in peace

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