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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:34:26 No.51660574 View View Reply Original Report

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>seven weaknesses, one of them x4

How does it feel to know your favorite of the new starters is literally the worst one yet? Not tryna hate or nothin

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:37:32 No.51660598 Report

Quoted By: >>51660651 >>51660970 >>51661801

>>51660574
Khu confirmed that it has a broken ability

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:37:55 No.51660606 Report

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>weaknesses = bad

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:38:50 No.51660614 Report

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>>51660574
>having seven weaknesses is ba-

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:40:26 No.51660626 Report

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My favorite is el pato tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:40:46 No.51660627 Report

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>>51660606
>>51660614
I mean it's not good

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:41:06 No.51660630 Report

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>>51660574
so cute weed cat tho lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:41:25 No.51660635 Report

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>muh type chart
play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:43:30 No.51660651 Report

Quoted By: >>51662123

>>51660574
Dark/Grass is a weird typing; wouldn't say its actually automatically bad though.
Considering its the apparent shillmon; it'll probably be pushed to hell statwise. "Good enough" bulk alongside just being a strong offensive threat.(It wouldn't be a glass cannon because those don't work well in doubles)
And yeah probably a broken ability, probably some insane sig move as well.

>>51660598
Khu says a lot of things, despite what people like to recall; a lot of it is wrong when its minor.
Khu is a colossal retard and it shows a good chunk of the time. "Legends will get DLC=Khu implies it'd be like Sword until near release".
He's running with clearly incomplete info, don't take him too seriously with this kinda shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:43:40 No.51660652 Report

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>>51660574
It doesn't matter much because the main gimmick of this Terastallization

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:43:58 No.51660653 Report

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>inb4 grass/ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:45:31 No.51660662 Report

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>>51660627
Sure, but how much it matters depends on its stats, movepool, and ability. If it's fast as shit and hits hard enough then its weaknesses will be inconsequential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:50:42 No.51660699 Report

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>>51660662
There are always workarounds. I can't imagine any new ability more broken than Grassy Surge and Libero, and those mons got checked pretty quick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:02:24 No.51660759 Report

Quoted By: >>51660790 >>51660793 >>51662158 >>51664572

>>51660699
>and those mons got checked pretty quick
Rillaboom is meta. Cinderace is too frail for double, same issue as greninja.
Its actually pretty weird that they just went with a physical greninja, its not a good archetype for doubles.
Cinderace is busted in singles and Rillaboom is no slouch either. Rillaboom is a flawed but super strong mon.
Don't get how thats "checked".

There's definitely other broken options though, weather|terrain/protean are great and all but there's a decent few options.
Prankster(moreso for doubles obviously), outright busted shit like Adaptability/Huge Power. They could also pull sig legend abilities like dark aura and sword.
They could also just powercreep Serp or something; give it dark overheat and contrary.
Ultimately i doubt it'd be an aggressive attempt to out do last gen; Rillaboom/Cinderace didn't exactly dethrone Incineroar after all.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:08:10 No.51660790 Report

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>>51660759
Cinderace was used in doubles, people had to stop once restricted was added but it was good
And to OP Dark/Grass is amazing typing because it’s immune to prankster and powder

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:08:24 No.51660793 Report

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>>51660759
If anything Rillaboom being good only made Incineroar better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:16:03 No.51660834 Report

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>>51660790
Oh yeah Cinderace is usable, same with Greninja. Its just weird to me since its not exactly a pushed archetype.
Cinderace fell off way before restricted format, it was good in galar format only pretty much.
Its certainly still usable, but its just not good enough to compete in the wider formats.

I actually forgot about prankster, yeah there's another thing going for it. I was just thinking "psychic immunity is vaguely relevant and powder is good".

>>51660793
In a sense, course Incineroar went from best mon to best mon so how would you even tell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:24:33 No.51660881 Report

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>>51660574
She's the weakest after I've put all of my cum into her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:26:15 No.51660887 Report

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>>51660574
pic not related

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:27:16 No.51660894 Report

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>>51660881
he's male

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:28:20 No.51660897 Report

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>>51660834
Incineroar got another good match up against a popular mon, it's obvious the rich was getting richer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:34:40 No.51660925 Report

Quoted By: >>51660930

>>51660574
X4? What the fuck did I miss? Grass/Dark, no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:35:53 No.51660930 Report

Quoted By: >>51660935 >>51661133

>>51660925
Bug, scarf u turn is still a thing

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:36:51 No.51660935 Report

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>>51660930
Ah, shit, thanks anon

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:44:29 No.51660970 Report

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>>51660598
>khu confirmed
>khu said
>khu stated

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 04:09:55 No.51661079 Report

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>>51660970
I just realized, whoever drew these really didn't capture the facial expressions well.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 04:21:49 No.51661133 Report

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>>51660930
i legit keep forgetting dark is weak to bug, its such an odd case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 04:53:51 No.51661244 Report

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>>51660970
t. joe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 05:00:29 No.51661272 Report

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>>51660574
I love grass types. game is still fun, plus I like a challenge

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 05:03:54 No.51661283 Report

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>>51661133
I think it's because Bug = Kamen Rider. so it's similar to Fighting being strong against Dark too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 05:07:12 No.51661289 Report

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>>51661283
fair enough, logic checks out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 05:10:05 No.51661299 Report

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>>51660574
in b4 it has wonder guard because fuck you, so it's shedinja but actually has more then 1 HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 05:35:20 No.51661391 Report

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>>51661283

I thought it was because bugs thrived in dark places, myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 05:41:50 No.51661416 Report

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>>51660574
>your favorite of the new starters
you start?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 07:30:58 No.51661801 Report

Quoted By: >>51661822 >>51661823 >>51663448

>>51660598
how broken?

>ability removes all items from all pokemon in battle when sprig is out
>ability is auto Cute Charm; works on male and female no matter which sprig is
>ability changes Sprigs type to one thats strong against your current attack

I wonder just how insane it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 07:41:21 No.51661822 Report

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>>51661801
>Using Attract on a pokemon
>Smogon says it's too unreliable and there are better moves.
>Auto-Cute Charm on a pokemon
>Infatuation is broken!!!!!

I can see it coming, guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 07:42:33 No.51661823 Report

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>>51661801
tranny cute charm, based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 09:27:46 No.51662123 Report

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>>51660651
Daybreak is free DLC though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 09:47:13 No.51662158 Report

Quoted By: >>51662208

>>51660759
>Cinderace is too frail for double
I came across a few during the Galarian birds giveaway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 10:02:31 No.51662208 Report

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>>51662158
My wording was a tad absolute in hindsight. But its certainly in no way "meta" past that initial burst.
More options killed it in regards to that. Gamefreak have actually mentioned that they do attempt to shift the meta(the tapus were mentioned in an interview to be super pushed for this reason)
So a shill mon just being "good and usable" doesn't really feel like what they want. Obviously if a mon had some earlier use its probably not going to be unusably bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 10:45:33 No.51662535 Report

Quoted By: >>51662665 >>51662671

So the cat will be quadrupedal or bipedal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 10:55:04 No.51662635 Report

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Can any of you type autists show me where these base stats are hiding? Need to check on my guy Quaxly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 11:00:00 No.51662665 Report

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>>51662535
inb4 bipedal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 11:00:48 No.51662671 Report

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>>51662535
Leaks say bipedal thief magician.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 11:04:49 No.51662701 Report

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>>51660574
>using starters past the first gym

lmao at ur boring ugly teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 11:07:06 No.51662723 Report

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>Primeape evo takes up fighting and ghost slots on my team
>type overlap autism limits me to just this stupid fuckin cat as my starter
Might be the first gen I go no starter for my first playthrough but thats a whole other autism I gotta break through. If Fuecoco's final form looks good enough maybe I can deal with the overlap considering it will probably be a special attacker and maybe different enough. But that also means cutting Armarouge which sucks. Had a similar problem in gen 6 with Greninja and Pangoro but could at least justify it to myself with the lore of Pancham needing a dark type on your team to evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 11:08:58 No.51662741 Report

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The only OU starter of Gen 9

your shitty fire and water starter will stay in UU or NU for the next 3 years, enjoy

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 11:11:24 No.51662761 Report

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>>51660606
Dumbass

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 12:14:38 No.51663271 Report

Quoted By: >>51663420

>>51660574
>Implying that type weaknesses means anything anymore when you have the ability to change type in the middle of battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 12:34:26 No.51663420 Report

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>>51663271
Protean is only being nerfed because Game Freak realized that a non-shillmon (Kecleon) has it as an ability.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 12:36:40 No.51663436 Report

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 12:38:27 No.51663448 Report

Quoted By: >>51663856 >>51663904 >>51664328

>>51661801
None of the starters have a new ability, so it narrows it down to a few that fit a grass/dark magician cat.

>Protean
>Disguise
>Prankster
>Shadow Tag

Protean got nerfed and was just used for Cinderace, Prankster is really dependent on movepool to be broken, so I'm predicting Disguise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:13:52 No.51663856 Report

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>>51663448
It is abillity depending of moves, if khu is right. I'm sure it's prankster. Liepard and meowstic also has prankster, then it's cats thing messy behaviour, and this abillity is fitting for illusionist magician theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:18:07 No.51663904 Report

Quoted By: >>51663973

>>51663448
how was protean nerfed? was libero nerfed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:22:50 No.51663973 Report

Quoted By: >>51664019 >>51664076 >>51664082

>>51663904
Works only once per battle. Intrepid Sword got nerfed the same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:25:31 No.51664019 Report

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>>51663973
shit its useless now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:26:21 No.51664034 Report

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>>51660834
>>51660897
he does it for his bf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:29:29 No.51664076 Report

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>>51663973
Thank god! I really hope you're not lying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:29:52 No.51664082 Report

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>>51663973
That was never said about Protean

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:36:25 No.51664201 Report

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It's gonna stand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:43:25 No.51664328 Report

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>>51663448
I doubt it'd be disguise, since it'll likely need another form like Mimikyu. Plus it's not really THAT godly of an ability.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:50:34 No.51664450 Report

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 13:57:59 No.51664572 Report

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>>51660759
> outright busted shit like Adaptability
Adaptability is only broken on a mon with one good offensive typing and a secondary offensive typing that compliments it. Water/Dark and Steel/Fighting are both good offensive typings for that reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 14:01:25 No.51664631 Report

Quoted By: >>51665394

>>51660574
>fire/ghost
>leaf/dark
>water/fairy(?)
At least they are unique types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 14:52:33 No.51665296 Report

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>>51660574

>6 resists and an immunity, starter stats, plus a broken ability

Yeah, I'm thinking she'll be fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 14:57:47 No.51665348 Report

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>>51660574
>pure grass
>x4 weakness
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 15:03:07 No.51665387 Report

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>>51660574
How does it feel to know you're retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 15:03:54 No.51665394 Report

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>>51664631
Water/Fairy
Are you retarded or what?
It was ALREADY confirmed the type was Water FIGHTING.

And Water/Fairy is a pretty op combo.

Water cancels one of Fairy weaknesses.

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