>>51706501not really, Kangaskhan was shit since basically ever
giving him Parental Bond was based, now side effects happening twice in a turn with it was the retarded thing
Charizard was always like, fine, just your classic starter
I mean, not ALWAYS but that's why it got buffed in Gen 2.
However I do agree that sideways evos similar to Scizor would have been more adapted in both cases (see
>>51706490)