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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 18:59:38 No.51765846 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51765858 >>51765935 >>51766245 >>51766376 >>51766542 >>51767171

Why do people keep thinking unova remakes need native american shit, or ever had it for a legends game?

Thanks to Legends arceus having Alder, there's potentially nothing native american about the region at all.

The history of the region is literally Rome too, have people saying this ever fucking played the games??????

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 19:01:09 No.51765856 Report

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ohh so that's why Gen 5 sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 19:01:14 No.51765858 Report

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>>51765846
>"people"

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 19:09:01 No.51765935 Report

Quoted By: >>51766364

>>51765846
Because no one gives a fuck about native Americans but the loud minority on Twitter (who also forget they exist most of the time)
Like most leftist retardation you can't win putting it into your game, you have one of 3 messages to put in your game:
>American treatment of natives was good, bad idea
>Americans should all collectively leave the continent back to the natives, bad idea
>any nuanced take will get you called racist by leftoids and insane by rightoids
And it's not something kids need or should know about because again no one fucking cares about natives

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 19:44:48 No.51766245 Report

Quoted By: >>51766255

>>51765846
>Why do people keep thinking unova remakes need native american shit, or ever had it for a legends game?
because the region has no identity beyond "DUDE BRIDGES LMAO"

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 19:45:55 No.51766255 Report

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>>51766245
But enough about Galar

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 19:59:11 No.51766364 Report

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>>51765935
>PLA had its own version of this dilemma with the setting evoking the times of Ainu assimilation (granted the Japanese are much less sensitive to this issue but it would be wrong to imply that they don't care at all)
>effectively dodges it by making Hisui a long abandoned, practically virgin land
They can just do the same thing for Unova.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 20:01:41 No.51766376 Report

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>>51765846
I'm not even american but I still want a spaghetti western gold rush setting

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 20:22:03 No.51766542 Report

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>>51765846
>Thanks to Legends arceus having Alder, there's potentially nothing native american about the region at all.
>He doesn't know that Unova and Sinnoh are heavily connected and that Kyurem is the fourth member of the Creation Trio

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 20:37:10 No.51766685 Report

Quoted By: >>51766703 >>51766751

Unova is a melding pot of cultures.
For reference
>Egyptian ruins
>Ancient Unova based off of Rome
>Tao Trio are a mix of Yin and Yang and Alchemy
>Forces of Nature are a mix of Japanese Kami and Four Auspicious Beasts
>Swords of Justice are the Musketeers with Wuxing bullshit added
>Pokestar Studios is blatantly just Hollywood

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 20:39:29 No.51766703 Report

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>>51766685
There are no Egyptian ruins.
The abyssal ruins are explicitly based on ruins off the coast of Japan, and the desert castle is based on european castles.

And no unova isn't a melting pot of cultures, it's extremely japanese with a hint of non-japanese mostly chinese and french things.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 20:46:24 No.51766751 Report

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>>51766685
>tao trio are alchemy
lmao????????
Not even remotely.
>>51766542
I know unova and sinnoh are connected. I was saying Alder the only remotely native themed character, possibly isn't even from Unova.

>>51766364
>virgin land
Either we go all the way back and say Rome colonized unova, in which case the natives got completely annihilated meaning modern unova would have zero native anything.

Or we do it after the OD split, meaning past unova is only Rome and native americans never existed there in the first place.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 21:32:45 No.51767133 Report

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>>51766751
>Not even remotely.
The Two Contraries are a pair of dragons in alchemy, named Sophic Mercury and Sophic Sulfur. They are commonly depicted as a white, fluffy dragon with two wings and a black, scaly dragon with four limbs. These depictions heavily informed the body designs of Reshiram and Zekrom. Sophic Mercury is described as active and Sophic Sulfur as passive, which could be a loose inspiration for the truth and ideals that Reshiram and Zekrom represent. The Two Contraries fight because they are opposites, yet they complete each other, similarly to the concept of yin and yang. The Two Contraries are also what allow free will and awareness to exist, reflected in Pokémon by the choice between truth and ideals. Sophic Sulfur's name and corresponding element could be an inspiration for Reshiram being Fire-type. In addition, the Three Essentials, mercury, sulfur, and salt, the elements needed to create a philosopher's stone, are considered the "child" of the Two Contraries. When the Essentials and Contraries are merged, they become a three-headed dragon. This could be the basis for the original dragon, which split into Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem long ago. The process of fusing requires the presence of Sophic Salt to freeze the Two Contraries together and ground them. This could be the inspiration for Kyurem being Ice-type.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 21:37:26 No.51767171 Report

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>>51765846
just merge some cool shit for a setting. Western + medieval fantasy. Plasma were knights in NY for no reason

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 21:54:17 No.51767344 Report

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>>51767133
Absolute nonsense, I can literally bullshit reasons for why ninetales is actually Australian too.

Not a single thing in the marketing, the games, the anime, or anything points to alchemy.
You can literally make this argument for why yugioh BEWD and REBD are all alchemy themed too.
Hell you can do it with any dragons in any media ever.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Oct 2022 22:26:01 No.51767649 Report

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>>51767344
Find me another connection on the caliber of the two dragons being described literally the same way and their combination being recreated. Stop being schizophrenic and assumin everything is literally just one concept, and don’t move the goalposts to marketing. N is a math and physics genius and mentions mixing Truth and Ideals in a chemical reaction that can change the world, which is Alchemy’s entire aim.

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