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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 22:47:00 No.51802977 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51803052 >>51803249 >>51803389 >>51803394 >>51803553 >>51803597 >>51803856 >>51804092 >>51804158 >>51804255 >>51804271

What would be some ways of making the games harder (outside of romhack tier bullshit like "level 500 electivire that's immune to ground type moves and all of his moves hit for 2x stab")

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 22:51:43 No.51803025 Report

Quoted By: >>51803030 >>51804261

how about making the games funner, like adding some actual enjoyable features for a change?

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 22:52:14 No.51803030 Report

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>better enemy teams that use held items and proper natures
>forced set battle style
>more double battles and teams built around them
>no/optional exp share
>maybe some form of manual level up like in Xenoblade so you can set your difficulty as you like
>some restriction on healing items
>maybe some kind of optional gauntlet or nuzloke mode
Honestly it's not hard to make Pokemon more engaging for anyone above the mental age of 11, these suggestions should be the bare minimum for a hard mode or something.
>>51803025
But that takes extra effort which GF hates.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 22:53:51 No.51803052 Report

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>>51802977
For starters, every important trainer should have 6 pokemon (except for maybe the first 2 gyms), 4 moves on each of their pokemon, and make use of held items.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 22:54:12 No.51803056 Report

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level cap, either soft or hard would work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 22:59:44 No.51803125 Report

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I think Touhoumon Another World had very nice difficulty at the beginning
Basicly Bossbattles had 4 to 6 mons each with a item and 2 to 4 levels above what one would reasonably be. Also just set movesets that make sense would also be fun
Come to think of it i recently played Colluseum for the gamecube and that had set movesets and i remember multiple battles that got under my skin
too bad it doesnt fucking matter because we will never a good fucking pokemon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:01:01 No.51803142 Report

Quoted By: >>51803192

>no EVs
>adaptive AI
>incentivize taking breaks from main gameplay with rewards like ability patches through in-depth minigames
>fleshed out side content like an ever-shifting dungeon (think deep dungeons from FFXIV) or time attack battles
>new game+ taking inspiration from Encore Mode from Sonic Mania

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:05:26 No.51803192 Report

Quoted By: >>51803267

>>51803142
>no EV
stupid
having to fight a eved team is a good for increasing difficulty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:09:50 No.51803249 Report

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>>51802977
level 500 electrive that's immune to ground type moves and all of his moves hit for 2x stab

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:11:27 No.51803267 Report

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>>51803192
I personally feel like abilities, moves, IVs, and natures are enough but that's just me

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:14:46 No.51803300 Report

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>>51803267
yea but all of it together and optimized it way better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:21:40 No.51803389 Report

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>>51802977
Enemy teams use diverse pokemon, not just regional poison and dark type shitmons.
The average trainer battle has three pokemon. Almost none should have one, unless it’s dex filler for exclusive s for the opposite version, or narrative contrivance; a kid with their first pokemon in starter routes.
None of this trainers having mons with less than four moves shit.

Done, three things to make the game a little harder without significantly changing anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:22:28 No.51803394 Report

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>>51802977
>nuzlock or nuzlock adjacent rules for fainting mons
>extremely expensive healing/battle items
>gyms are 'all-in' instances where you cannot leave until you blackout or get the badge, so no running back to PC. Also:
>most important battles scale to the highest lvl in party (so you can't simply overlevel and stomp)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:26:31 No.51803436 Report

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>>51803394
>>extremely expensive healing/battle items
it would be fun to play a game where the economy mattered beyond the first gym or two

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:37:22 No.51803553 Report

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>>51802977
Endgame opponents get affection and can use it just as good as you.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 23:41:04 No.51803597 Report

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>>51802977
Gyms and the like should be like the elite 4 where you have to complete it all in one go, increasing the number of trainers/pokemon you have to battle. Even if it wouldn't amount to much it would at least make healing items more worthwhile when you can't just run back for healing if you have a rough battle.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 00:05:00 No.51803856 Report

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>>51802977
Limiting the player's options. From things like forced set, no healing items in trainer battles, and even limited Pokemon availability so each challenge can be tuned for what is available and not for the lowest common denominator of what team is possible at that point in the game.
Well tuned challenge is born from limitations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 00:30:50 No.51804092 Report

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>>51802977
Make a route be all rain then make several NPCs abuse rain teams since the map auto sets Rain for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 00:38:14 No.51804158 Report

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>>51802977
Limiting the Pokemon you're able to catch.
Forced switch mode with no warning so you can't just boost to +6 and sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 00:50:45 No.51804255 Report

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>>51802977
Enemy trainers have actually good movesets, abilities, and make ise of natures and evs. Also full teams that have synergy instead of three or four pokemon with the same weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 00:51:41 No.51804261 Report

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>>51803025
>funner

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 00:52:42 No.51804271 Report

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>>51802977
get rid of monotype trainers entirely

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