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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 02:51:56 No.51805147 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51805588 >>51805623 >>51805711 >>51806520 >>51808358 >>51808474

One thing I don't see enough people talking about is the new VGC season we're about to get.

The first VGC season of each new gen is often the best, having no 680 BST legends, and usually few if any relevant legendaries at all. It's these seasons that allow pokemon like Arcanine or Pachirisu to be played.

I love seeing the teams people come up with and I'm just as excited this time round as well!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:02:58 No.51805224 Report

Quoted By: >>51805326

I’m excited for it, but what’s there to talk about before we know the dex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:15:08 No.51805326 Report

Quoted By: >>51805584

>>51805224
Don't we already know the returning mons? We can speculate from there I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:23:30 No.51805376 Report

Quoted By: >>51805566 >>51805624

Maturity is realizing VGC is better than Smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:49:23 No.51805566 Report

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>>51805376
Maturity is not starting irrelevant arguments in unrelated threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:52:21 No.51805584 Report

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>>51805326
There’s that graphic going around, but it’s apparently only like 90% correct. They had to add Croagunk to it after he was shown in the Bellibolt trailer, and there’s another new version now that took Dhelmise off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:52:56 No.51805588 Report

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>>51805147
no one here actually plays the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:56:55 No.51805623 Report

Quoted By: >>51805640

>>51805147
Amogus in first season has me concerned though I guess that new genie gets overcoat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:57:33 No.51805624 Report

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>>51805376
Maturity is not crying in a competitive thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 03:59:51 No.51805640 Report

Quoted By: >>51805665 >>51805769 >>51808445

>>51805623
The first trailer where they showed a tera raid had pokemon attacking while they had a zzz icon.
Sleep is likely getting replaced with drowsy so Amogus and other Spore users won’t be as oppressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 04:01:09 No.51805655 Report

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Moltres-Galar is going to be on demon time without Zacian and Regieleki back

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 04:02:39 No.51805665 Report

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>>51805640
That is the icon for internal cooldown on attacks not sleeping. I’ll believe it’s drowsy when I see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 04:09:13 No.51805711 Report

Quoted By: >>51805767 >>51805837

>>51805147
Been talking to some friends about what confirmed returning Pokemon so far would be strong candidates as Terastal mons since we know exactly what it does now. Rock Ttar, Ground or steel Garchomp, Fire Torkoal, Water Golduck among many others. If Grimmsnarl is really in I believe it'll be a crucial support mon with the priority dual screens to mitigate hyper offensive Terastal mons. Meta itself is probably going to be very hyper offensive at first and shift to more bulkier builds on mons later on. Overall exciting stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 04:15:39 No.51805767 Report

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>>51805711
I’m liking the idea of Fairy Frosmoth or Electric Rotom-Frost

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 04:15:50 No.51805769 Report

Quoted By: >>51809395

>>51805640
Dunno why this speculation spread so much when we literally see the status called sleep and not drowsy.

There might be some kind of mechanic change to sleep (hence Rest's PP nerf), but chances are this instance is just a raid mechanic to prevent battles slowing down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 04:26:55 No.51805837 Report

Quoted By: >>51805962

>>51805711
>Water Golduck
What's the draw here, Cloud Nine memes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 04:48:44 No.51805962 Report

Quoted By: >>51806264

>>51805837
Swift Swimmer I assume, it was actually meta in 2017 since Kingdra/Ludicolo weren't legal, and if leaks are correct then the same is happening for SV. Drednaw might be viable too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 05:50:29 No.51806264 Report

Quoted By: >>51806351

>>51805962
Golduck never really made much of a splash (lol) in 2017 and I don't see him doing well here. I think linear threats will be far less effective with terastral stuff going on.

That said, I could see some bulky pokemon doing well with free adaptability and spread moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 06:06:12 No.51806351 Report

Quoted By: >>51806663 >>51806690

>>51806264
Rain with Golduck was consistently good in 2017, it won tournaments and got top 8 at worlds. It's not that Golduck itself is good, it's that the lack of Ludicolo/Kingdra opens the door for other Swift Swim users to be good.since rain itself is such a strong playstyle. Rain was always about overwhelming with water moves and in theory Tera fits that perfectly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 06:41:13 No.51806520 Report

Quoted By: >>51806592

>>51805147
I wish Hatterene wasn't available in SV because I feel like it means the beginning of this gen is going to be very similar to Gen 7 where about half of the teams are Hatterene Trick Rooms, especially with the generally weaker Pokemon available in SV. Hopefully without the Dynamax bulk she isn't as oppressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 07:01:05 No.51806592 Report

Quoted By: >>51808476

>>51806520
I got bad news for you Anon she never needed dyna/giga
However the line up/moveset/abilitys etc could easily factor her doom

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 07:14:23 No.51806663 Report

Quoted By: >>51806690

>>51806351
I had completely forgotten someone made top 8 with Golduck. Considering the STAB boost makes up for a lack of z-moves you're right, he may work well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 07:21:52 No.51806690 Report

Quoted By: >>51806714 >>51806721 >>51808084

>>51806351
>>51806663
If the leaked dex is right, Barraskewda's in and I don't really see any reason to use Golduck over him. If you wanted a swift swimmer that's a little less of a glass cannon, Drednaw appears to be in as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 07:26:04 No.51806714 Report

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>>51806690
>Barraskewda
Who knows, maybe special atk ends up out-performing phys atk by that much. And Drednaw brings a lot of extra weaknesses while losing to opposing Golducks/Barraskewdas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 07:26:59 No.51806721 Report

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>>51806690
I think it depends on how common Intimidate is in this game, that's a big reason special rain attackers are generally preferred

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:29:49 No.51808022 Report

Quoted By: >>51808453

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:39:27 No.51808084 Report

Quoted By: >>51808091

>>51806690
I didn’t even think about Barraskewda honestly, that’s a solid option. I ran double duck back in 2017 and so I naturally felt that it could be a solid option again here. The Tera Water Golduck/Barraskewda just sounds crazy but i do also think Pokemon with spread moves want to Terastalize more. Ground Garchomp, Fairy Gardevoir, Fire Torkoal and Rock Ttar come to mind. Rain teams would also need a way to deal with Gastrodon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:40:50 No.51808091 Report

Quoted By: >>51808183 >>51808453

>>51808084
Shut the FUCK UP And refer to the reply above your post, stop posting bullshit and going on about NOTHING when we have more important poo to worry about.

Regards,
Phillip

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:53:12 No.51808183 Report

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>>51808091
I agree, please post the Nsp. Thanks guys have a good one.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:04:13 No.51808245 Report

Quoted By: >>51808260 >>51808346 >>51808438

I'm gonna miss this big lug. Is there literally any hope for him at all in a meta without dynamax?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:06:34 No.51808260 Report

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>>51808245
shut up you fucking stupid poo sucker go refer to the message both one and three above yours, stop posting GARBAGE you FUCKING KYKE GOLDBERG

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:18:02 No.51808346 Report

Quoted By: >>51808375

>>51808245
I mean, he could Tera into a Pure Rock or Pure Fire type (probably Rock to abuse Tera Blast honestly, it really wants a consistent Special Rock Move due to the fact that it doesn't get Power Gem and Max Vocalith isn't a thing anymore) to mitigate the Water weakness and then go from there with his old Steam Engine+Weakness Policy strat. It's definitely gonna be less consistent than before but I don't think it'd fall off completely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:20:02 No.51808358 Report

Quoted By: >>51808375 >>51808400 >>51808455

>>51805147
VGCgods, would you say Breloom is good in doubles? or do Substitute memes just not work

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:21:55 No.51808375 Report

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>>51808346
>>51808358
refer to messages both 1/4/6 above and 2/5/7 above respectively, compfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:24:51 No.51808400 Report

Quoted By: >>51808413

>>51808358

Not really. Doesn't have the firepower needed to be an offensive threat, all he has defensively is spore and amongus is just way waaaaay better as a spore user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:26:32 No.51808413 Report

Quoted By: >>51808431

>>51808400
refer to messages 5/8/10 above, fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:28:41 No.51808431 Report

Quoted By: >>51808449

>>51808413
Take your meds schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:29:11 No.51808438 Report

Quoted By: >>51808449

>>51808245
Tera Fire @Weakness Policy with Heat Wave next to Aqua Jet Masquerain (weakest AJ in the game, probably), really hoping Masq has access to Tailwind this format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:29:41 No.51808445 Report

Quoted By: >>51808485

>>51805640
That was recharge icon so you would not spam moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:30:20 No.51808449 Report

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>>51808431
>>51808438
refer to messages 7/10/12 and 8/11/13 above, jewfag cocksuckers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:30:32 No.51808453 Report

Quoted By: >>51808464

>>51808022
>>51808091
why shit up the thread so bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:30:37 No.51808455 Report

Quoted By: >>51808485

>>51808358
Scarf Spore is always good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:32:06 No.51808464 Report

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>>51808453
shut up faggot, post your home address if you wanna talk shit

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:33:12 No.51808474 Report

Quoted By: >>51808480 >>51808482 >>51808485

>>51805147
Whatbare the odds that Incineroar is back in by summer of next year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:33:26 No.51808476 Report

Quoted By: >>51808485

>>51806592
Oh well, at least running Macho Brace Perrserker to kill her might still work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:34:20 No.51808480 Report

Quoted By: >>51808496

>>51808474
I give it 40%

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:34:45 No.51808482 Report

Quoted By: >>51808486 >>51808496

>>51808474
Decidueye is in the game so I say 95%

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:35:29 No.51808485 Report

Quoted By: >>51808496 >>51808504 >>51808516 >>51808551 >>51808557

>>51808445
>>51808455
>>51808474
>>51808476
Can you guys SHUT THE NIGGER UP AND POST THE FUCKING SV NSP?????????????

STPO POSTING LOGS AND POO AND CUM AND BALLS AND FUCKING WORRY ABOUT THE LEAK YOU JEWFAGS, FUCK COMPETITIVE IF YOU CAN'T EVER ACCESS THE GAME BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO FOCUSED ON BEING LOG EATING DYKE FUCKERS!!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:35:31 No.51808486 Report

Quoted By: >>51808501 >>51808516 >>51808544 >>51811894

>>51808482
Only Hisuian is in. Also, GF does NOT care about such consistency anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:36:31 No.51808496 Report

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>>51808480
>>51808482
refer to >>51808485

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:37:02 No.51808501 Report

Quoted By: >>51808504 >>51808515 >>51808544

>>51808486
>only Hisuian is in
This hasn't been said anywhere and the only guy who asked just got the rep to say that "Decidueye is in the game", no specification on form. It's more than likely that you can get Alolan/Hisuian as a giftmon somewhere and the other will be transferable in via Home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:37:40 No.51808504 Report

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>>51808501
refer to >>51808485
please you fucking niggerfucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:39:45 No.51808515 Report

Quoted By: >>51808526 >>51808538 >>51809485

>>51808501
hello? retarded much?
If you had a fucking brain you'd see that the only starters in SV are Kanto, Kalos, PLA and Paldea.
Why would they have the regular versions, when those weren't even availaible in PLA - even with transfer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:40:00 No.51808516 Report

Quoted By:

>>51808486
refer to >>51808485
as this is relevant to you, stop fagposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:41:01 No.51808526 Report

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>>51808515
are you fucking BLIND AND STUPID YOU FUCKING FAGGOT - REFER TO THE MESSAGE I HAVE BEEN SENDING TO EVERYBODY ELSE - I AM OBVIOUSLY GOING TO THEN SAY IT TO YOU

IF you have anything to say then please make it RELEVANT to my post, don't post shit for no reason you fucking LOSER!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:42:24 No.51808538 Report

Quoted By: >>51808551

>>51808515
>Why would they have the regular versions, when those weren't even availaible in PLA - even with transfer?
You're automatically assuming that PLA set a standard and that it wasn't just an outlier due to the nature of the game. There has been no word, official or otherwise, only ONLY one form being available, stop acting like your baseless conjecture is fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:42:58 No.51808544 Report

Quoted By: >>51808551

>>51808486
>>51808501
He actually specified normal form that's in

https://twitter.com/PhillyBeatzU/status/1584057830012686336

Besides, in SWSH every Pokemon that was in the game also had all of its alt forms in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:44:04 No.51808551 Report

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>>51808538
>>51808544
DUR DUR DUR DUR DUR READ MY FUCKING POST STUPID FUCKHEAD

>>51808485
>>51808485
>>51808485
>>51808485

STOP POOPOSTING, FAGGOT - BE RELEVANT TO THE ISSUE AT HAND - THE NSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phillip

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:45:22 No.51808557 Report

Quoted By: >>51808565 >>51809639

>>51808485
>FUCK COMPETITIVE IF YOU CAN'T EVER ACCESS THE GAME
??? You can't compete on a modded Switch, dipshit. Nobody having discussion in this thread gives a fuck about your leak begging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:46:20 No.51808565 Report

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>>51808557
Finally, somebody actually posting about the NSP instead of the bullshit this thread started on - thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 15:44:52 No.51809395 Report

Quoted By:

>>51805769
Oh, interesting. Still wish Freeze got changed to Frostbite though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 15:55:05 No.51809485 Report

Quoted By: >>51809582 >>51809698

>>51808515
The normal forms are in, otherwise what happens if you transfer Quilava from PLA to Paldea and evolve it? It just turns into Hisui form in Paldea because “lol don’t feel like doing it”

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 16:05:25 No.51809582 Report

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>>51809485
Yes, that's what I'm thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 16:11:48 No.51809639 Report

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>>51808557
>You can't compete on a modded Switch, dipshit.
How are they going to stop you? Do they manually inspect every Switch to make sure there's no Tinfoil on the home screen?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 16:18:07 No.51809698 Report

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>>51809485
This, Centro's tweet made no sense so Pearl had clarify

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2022 20:42:20 No.51811894 Report

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>>51808486
Both forms are in, but it's only in because it has a Hisuian form. Same with Typhlosian and Samurott.

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