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Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:36:39 No.52116908 View View Reply Original Report

60/79/92/52/86/35 (Total: 404)
lmao

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Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:38:32 No.52116940 Report

Quoted By: >>52117076 >>52117232

>>52116908
Kinda kino that Gamefreak is going back to its roots by making unsalvageable shitmons again, it has truly been a while since they've made a mon this fucking awful with literally no niche (even as a web setter because this thing is slow as shit)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:39:09 No.52116950 Report

Quoted By: >>52118770

>>52116908
>Genuinely clever design based on the ogre faced spider
>Has dogshit stats and a dogshit signature move

Oh well, at least he's usable in early game I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:39:33 No.52116958 Report

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>>52116908
Good thing it looks like shit anyway. It'd be worse if it was a well designed Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:39:38 No.52116960 Report

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>>52116908
you genuinely have no taste if you like this pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:39:54 No.52116966 Report

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>>52116908
at least it's not Wormadam I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:40:03 No.52116968 Report

Quoted By: >>52117023

Someone will call it their bro and beg for an evolution from this gen onward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:41:52 No.52116998 Report

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>>52116908
Should have 100 speed but also anticipation as ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:42:53 No.52117016 Report

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>>52116908
To be fair, that's on par with other early game bugs like Butterfree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:43:20 No.52117023 Report

Quoted By: >>52117240

>>52116968
In 3 gens they'll introduce new gimmick forms for a bunch of shitmons.

Spidops won't get one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:44:46 No.52117056 Report

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>>52116908
>early-route bugmon turns out to be a shitmon.
Wow, who would've guessed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:45:20 No.52117066 Report

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404 META NOT FOUND

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Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:45:35 No.52117076 Report

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>>52116940
This. Some pokemon are just meant to be earlygame shitters you dunk on

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:46:41 No.52117093 Report

Quoted By: >>52117145 >>52117202 >>52117354

reposting from the comp thread
Is there a single fully evolved pokemon in gen 6, 7, or 8 that is worse than spidops
dedenne comes close but has better typing
gumshoos might be worse but even then it can actually make use of stakeout
thievul sees some use as an unburden sweeper in very low tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:48:34 No.52117136 Report

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>>52116908
Shit stats and shit looking. The supreme shitmon from gen 9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:48:53 No.52117145 Report

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>>52117093
Those three you listed are some of the only ones that come to mind, it's been a good while since we've seen something this abysmally shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:49:40 No.52117163 Report

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>>52116908
>The shit bug in the new game has bad stats
As thing should be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:52:26 No.52117202 Report

Quoted By: >>52117252 >>52121113

>>52117093
I'd say Komala, but that's just my own personal biases (I fucking hate koalas)

Honestly though, I dunno. Diggersby is total ass, but he's at least got good stats and found a niche in competitive there for a bit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:53:55 No.52117232 Report

Quoted By: >>52117700 >>52117754 >>52117811 >>52118752 >>52119021 >>52122323

>>52116908
Tarountula evolves at Level 15 so it was designed to be an early game Bug mon with decent stats for that point. Hell, Tarountula is the early game Bug, being commonly available in the first very area ov the game alongside Lechonk,

>>52116940
Oh you mean like every Gen.
BW - Watchog
XY - Vivillon
SM - Gumshoos
SWSH - Thievul/Dubwool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:54:23 No.52117240 Report

Quoted By: >>52118061

>>52117023
If fucking Linoone can get it, then Spidops can. He could be based on Maritime sea giants or hydraulic winches with Arena Trap for all we know.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:55:03 No.52117251 Report

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>>52116908
how embarrassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:55:07 No.52117252 Report

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>>52117202
komala has swords dance, sucker punch, and can't be statused, it's leagues above this poor fucker
diggersby is very solid
in case you couldn't tell, this thread is about competitive

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Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 17:59:31 No.52117324 Report

Quoted By: >>52118035 >>52118107

>>52116908
>best stats are defenses, but neither break 100
>60HP
Just to be clear, the pre-evolution is one of the first species you can find in the game... right? And it evolves at like, lv15 or something, right?
They wouldn't just make a bug-type with almost everything worse across the board than fucking Ledian........ right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:00:50 No.52117354 Report

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>>52117093
all i can think of is cursola and possibly avalugg-hisui, though the latter's potential remains to be seen.
it's utterly unusable on paper, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:04:57 No.52117404 Report

Quoted By: >>52117435

>>52116908
>Parasect Clone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:05:13 No.52117410 Report

Quoted By: >>52117445

Those stats are the only positive thing I can say about spidops, because it means I will never have to see it on showdown

They made a spider humanoid. I'm in awe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:05:36 No.52117416 Report

Quoted By: >>52117441

>>52116908
Fuck.
it could just give it Base 70 HP and it would be enough to use it online with its signature move.
the worst part is that Lokix completely mogs this mon out, especially also being an early route mon too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:05:54 No.52117420 Report

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>>52116908
Look at how they massacred my boy. It's so hard being a Tarontula fan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:07:07 No.52117435 Report

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>>52117404
even worse, no Spore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:07:25 No.52117441 Report

Quoted By: >>52117490

>>52117416
what does its signature move do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:07:41 No.52117445 Report

Quoted By: >>52117521 >>52117989

>>52117410
It's an ogre faced spider my dude, it's actually kind of a neat design when you look into it

Ogre faced spiders do that thing where they put two legs together even, it's clever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:08:34 No.52117457 Report

Quoted By: >>52117572 >>52117584

>>52116908
Inferior kricketune

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:10:24 No.52117490 Report

Quoted By: >>52119288

>>52117441
Protect with the ability to lower the speed of the opponent by one if hit by a contact move. Could be cool to force switches since it could threaten a counter sweep when it dies and you bring in your next mon but it doesn't really help spidops himself. even with 3 speed drops it can't threaten anything by itself :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:12:20 No.52117521 Report

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>>52117445
>dude it's le based on le something, look it's clever I swear

I know what ogre spiders are anon. Spidops has an atrocious color scheme, does the whole "bodymarkings that simulate clothes" meme, and the model looks like the designer did a rough low-poly sketch and then forgot about it.

I'm very happy with mr. Carboard Tube Arms over here to become an unrated forgotten shitmon. Hopefully most of us can pretend it just doesn't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:15:19 No.52117572 Report

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>>52117457
That's a really impressive accomplishment

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:15:23 No.52117574 Report

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Spidops is fine, but why make two more bug shitmon lines too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:16:04 No.52117584 Report

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>>52117457
you know, i hadn't thought about it.
but it really is just a worse kricketune, holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:16:37 No.52117593 Report

Quoted By: >>52117650 >>52118648

Why is bug the shitmon type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:20:00 No.52117650 Report

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>>52117593
GF should give It a terrain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:22:56 No.52117700 Report

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>>52117232
Only watchdog/gum are terrible
Vivillon is good thanks to Quiver dance
And the gen 8 pair is niche/gimmicky thanks to the ability ( and the fire move for Thievul)

Here we have something worse than fucking Ledian

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:26:08 No.52117754 Report

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>>52117232
>vivillon
>unsalvageable
>he doesn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:29:46 No.52117811 Report

Quoted By: >>52117988

>>52117232
>Vivillon
Compoundeyes sleep powder + hurricane, actually has been historically viable in AG.
>Dubwool
490 BST. It’s shit incidentally- game freak designed it only 10 points away from Gengar, and identical to the pre-Gen 7 Alakazam, so they clearly wanted it to be decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:31:32 No.52117844 Report

Quoted By: >>52118103 >>52121037

>>52116908
Spiderbros, at least the other 3 spider lines are fantastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:39:28 No.52117988 Report

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>>52117811
Dubwool just needed a better movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:39:29 No.52117989 Report

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>>52117445
>It literally does the thing the animal it's based on does, it's clever
Not to mention it looks way worse than the real animal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:40:09 No.52118003 Report

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>>52116908
>irredeemable stats
>irredeemable design
I would put money on hundreds of contrarians calling this their "bro" and spending the entire generation bemoaning how shit it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:41:18 No.52118030 Report

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>>52116908
>le early bug is an irredeemable shitmon meme
Detest this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:41:38 No.52118035 Report

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>>52117324
its stat spread is so much better than Ledian that it's not even funny, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:43:17 No.52118061 Report

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>>52117240
belly drum linoone is no joke though. Spidops is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:45:06 No.52118103 Report

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>>52117844
in what world is ariados fantastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:45:19 No.52118107 Report

Quoted By: >>52118163

>>52117324
i dont understand why they do this, instead of making another early game unsalvageable bug mon, why not give it a high level 3rd stage evo to round out stats or give it a niche. lv15 for spidops and then like 55lv for something actually decent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:48:17 No.52118163 Report

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>>52118107
My shit take is that it's their way of having a "hidden" difficulty level. Playing and trying to beat the game with shitmons + weak starter matchup against the gyms may have been an earlier design choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:49:31 No.52118180 Report

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The one thing this thing has going for it is sticky web, and there's already plenty of less awful shitmons that learn sticky web. One of the most dead before arrival pokemon we've seen in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:49:42 No.52118187 Report

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>>52116908
>Total: 404
Use not found

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 18:51:23 No.52118221 Report

Quoted By: >>52118430 >>52118777

it's like they wanted a pokemon who could actually force switches (circle throw) and make use of stakeout that way, but decided it was too strong at the last minute and just gutted its stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:04:35 No.52118430 Report

Quoted By: >>52118777

>>52118221
Yeah this is clearly what happened, looking at its movepool and ability its clear what its supposed to be able to do but Game Freak got scared to make it good because of that for some reason

Then they made Mabosstiff have stakeout, ok speed, and 120 attack so I guess the radiation is just fucking with game freak HQ

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Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:16:02 No.52118648 Report

Quoted By: >>52118788 >>52119814 >>52119905 >>52120066

>>52117593
Pokemon was inspired by bugcatching so they put them in early routes and they evolve fast. It's the core of pokemon, catching and evolving, and by putting them in early routes they are basically "intro" or "demo" pokemon. Imagine getting a dragon that evolves at level 55 on the first route. That's just bad gameplay for beginners and children. Most children don't make it past the beginning of the game. For anyone who does they realize their bug shitmon is not cutting it anymore at around level 32. Even Ash getting rid of Butterfree is a memorable episode in the anime. Bug shitmon are core pokemon and I love them. Fuck every single person in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:18:51 No.52118695 Report

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>>52116908
It has STAB First Impression and U-Turn and is also usable in Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:22:08 No.52118741 Report

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>>52116908
It's clearly Spidops will get an evolution with an OP ability in DLC, just wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:22:38 No.52118752 Report

Quoted By: >>52118833

>>52117232
>she doesn't run Powder Vivillon to dab on mega charizard Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:23:31 No.52118770 Report

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>>52116950
>>Genuinely clever design based on the ogre faced spider
Good idea, terrible execution
The fucking real life animal looks cooler than this plastic green monkey

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:23:58 No.52118777 Report

Quoted By: >>52118972

>>52118221
>>52118430
Why is Gen 9 so full of this gutted Pokemon, who is the guy that just start going around and making them Gut Pokemon is masses, then to do another Pokemon that has similar stuff to be untouched!?

Someone in GF HQ is being really biased on certain Pokemon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:24:24 No.52118788 Report

Quoted By: >>52119514

>>52118648
They dropped this idea since gen 5. They even had the decency to buff many of those shitty bugs.
It's not core anymore and I don't know why they started this trend again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:27:22 No.52118833 Report

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>>52118752
That was my favorite thing to do back in X and Y online battles. You just use powder over and over and they NEVER learn. Charitards are all morons a swear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:35:29 No.52118972 Report

Quoted By: >>52122276

>>52118777
I'd rather have gutted pokemon than have the power creepy continue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:38:20 No.52119021 Report

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>>52117232
Dubwool actually isn't awful. I've made a decent number of shitters rage quit with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:49:38 No.52119210 Report

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>>52116908
Could be good in low tier trick room teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 19:55:35 No.52119288 Report

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>>52117490
sounds like a good troll on Chie-Pao

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Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 20:06:27 No.52119514 Report

Quoted By: >>52119673

>>52118788
Kalos route 2 is full of bugs and so is Alola route 1. Gen 5 is not core pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 20:15:34 No.52119673 Report

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>>52119514
>Kalos route 2 is full of bugs and so is Alola route 1
Yeah, old ones. Vivillon is just strong enough to be usable for an in-game run, and Vikavolt is a straight up nuke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 20:23:57 No.52119814 Report

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>>52118648
Good take
I miss irredeemable shitmons, there should be more of them
It's too bad most players get upset when they're expected to trade up mons throughout the game instead of getting something like Gible at level 10

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 20:29:51 No.52119905 Report

Quoted By: >>52119986

>>52118648
>It's the core of pokemon, catching and evolving, and by putting them in early routes they are basically "intro" or "demo" pokemon.
>Bug shitmon are core pokemon and I love them.
Then they should at least look like shitmons. Don't waste good designs that peoole would like to use on demo Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 20:29:51 No.52119906 Report

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>>52116908
>80/84/90/44/90/16 (Total: 404)
there, I made it useable without even changing the BST, all they had to do was make it slower considering it’s already slow as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 20:30:13 No.52119913 Report

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Is there a pastebin or something of the stat spreads of all the new mons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 20:34:31 No.52119986 Report

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>>52119905
It does look like a shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 20:38:15 No.52120066 Report

Quoted By: >>52120648

>>52118648
You can make shitmons with low stats and still give them the tools to fill a niche. Making Pokémon for the explicit purpose of being shitty filler is retarded, especially these days where the number of brand new Pokémon in each gen gets smaller and smaller.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 21:10:15 No.52120648 Report

Quoted By: >>52120690 >>52120902

>>52120066
>especially these days where the number of brand new Pokémon in each gen gets smaller and smaller.
If only there was a solution to this that didn't cause temper tantrums over Stantler

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 21:12:24 No.52120690 Report

Quoted By: >>52120761

>>52120648
Are you suggesting that Gamefreak is forced to give Spidops shitty stats because people whined about the dex cut?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 21:16:05 No.52120761 Report

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>>52120690
Calm down and try reading the post again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 21:22:44 No.52120902 Report

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>>52120648
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. The dexcut didn't noticeably impact anything on that front, we're still looking at new batches consisting of less than a hundred brand new Pokémon at a time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 21:30:23 No.52121037 Report

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>>52117844
This is our first spider. Rest are bugs (6 legs).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 21:33:41 No.52121113 Report

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>>52117202
>Diggersby is ass, but he's good
Wh... Huh? Retard anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 22:17:45 No.52121904 Report

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>>52116908
Ariados WON!
But who wins between this paldea shitmon spider, delelelewoop and Ledian?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 22:38:54 No.52122276 Report

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>>52118972
>I'd rather have gutted pokemon than have the power creepy continue.
You will have both.The same thing happened to Alola and Galar,Dex was 85% trash but the standouts pushed the powercreep to new highs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Nov 2022 22:42:00 No.52122323 Report

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>>52117232
Dubwool has a very annoying showderp-tier RestTalk+CottonGuard+Nody Press set that can be a surprisingly effective wincon that shuts many OU teams down. Its ability is very useful because it blocks Focus Blast.

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