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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 22:59:07 No.52162429 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>52162491 >>52162500 >>52162638 >>52162651 >>52162658 >>52162759 >>52162760 >>52162862 >>52163023 >>52164323 >>52165418 >>52165458

This shit is broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:02:00 No.52162478 Report

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the new LORD of OU, kneel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:02:54 No.52162488 Report

Quoted By: >>52162534 >>52162540

what's the max pp? 3?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:02:59 No.52162491 Report

Quoted By: >>52162759

>>52162429
But did you ask for its advice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:03:35 No.52162500 Report

Quoted By: >>52162506 >>52162921

>>52162429
It's just a Revive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:04:02 No.52162506 Report

Quoted By: >>52162716 >>52162890 >>52162971

>>52162500
? post elo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:05:22 No.52162534 Report

Quoted By: >>52162769

>>52162488
1. You can use a leppa to restore it though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:05:37 No.52162540 Report

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>>52162488
1 PP, can't increase with PP up, just tried. Still broken for 70/115/70/70/70/105

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:06:13 No.52162546 Report

Quoted By: >>52162727

it doesn't even have a downside like healing wish, nuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:09:25 No.52162600 Report

Quoted By: >>52162694 >>52162821

The penalty is that anything that hard walls it gets a free switch in + a free turn of set up.

Which doesn't devalue it too much but will simply mean that teams will build around countering Pawmot counters. The joke is if there's anything that's going to punish Rain this gen it's this fucker

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:10:31 No.52162613 Report

Quoted By: >>52165834 >>52166348

I get it now, it has defibrillator paws

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:11:46 No.52162638 Report

Quoted By: >>52162939

>>52162429
>banned from VGC
yep.. we just made a move because you can spare a Revive in game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:12:58 No.52162651 Report

Quoted By: >>52162664 >>52162674 >>52162837 >>52163115

>>52162429
How would you nerf this? Make it so that the user must be the only Pokémon that's not fainted? Not have it be a move at all and instead be a consumable item?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:13:26 No.52162658 Report

Quoted By: >>52162683 >>52166234

>>52162429
Useless when we have revives

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:13:39 No.52162664 Report

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>>52162651
C. Don't do anything and watch Smogon mods seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:14:18 No.52162674 Report

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>>52162651
make it so pawmot has to have at least 50% to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:14:52 No.52162683 Report

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>>52162658
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:15:41 No.52162694 Report

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>>52162600
The thing is, Iron Fist synergizes really well with Ice Punch giving Pawmot BoltBeam+Fighting stab coming from a respectable 115 base Attack, so there's not that many things that hard wall it, and Pawmot can use that offensive pressure to get free turns for Revival Blessing quite easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:17:16 No.52162716 Report

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>>52162506
it's just a revive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:17:52 No.52162727 Report

Quoted By: >>52162754 >>52162991

>>52162546
Being stuck to 1pp is downside enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:19:14 No.52162754 Report

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>>52162727
actually a fucking retard
Compare it to Healing Wish, we said

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:19:25 No.52162759 Report

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>>52162429
>>52162491
This, I'm more concerned with what Pawmot had to say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:19:35 No.52162760 Report

Quoted By: >>52162778

>>52162429
imagine a full team composed of 6 pawmot + this move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:20:00 No.52162769 Report

Quoted By: >>52162882 >>52164536 >>52165214

>>52162534
it doesn't have Recycle thankfully, so it won't run Leppa. neither does Rabsca. still quite significant. I assume it can also be Copycatted for shenanigans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:20:48 No.52162778 Report

Quoted By: >>52162806

>>52162760
Revive doesn't heal PP - at least the item doesn't,
I'd be UNpleasantly surprised if the move does

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:22:26 No.52162806 Report

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>>52162778
no because the whole point of Lunar Dance is that it does restore PP and Healing Wish doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:23:14 No.52162821 Report

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>>52162600
>anything that hard walls it
ok mr.genius but what? I'd agree if it was pure Electric-type - it's not though
Gets Ice Punch + Iron Fist too, as another anon remarked

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:24:15 No.52162837 Report

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>>52162651
Make it kill the user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:25:58 No.52162862 Report

Quoted By: >>52162882 >>52162906 >>52162985

>>52162429
You have to use this shitmon to revive your other dead shitmon, so the team is still clogged with this pikaclone in competitive.
Hope it gets shat on hard by Heal Block strats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:27:23 No.52162882 Report

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>>52162769
Imagine the double strats like Skill Swap + Cud Chew or Harvest.
>>52162862
Is Heal Block still cut?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:28:09 No.52162890 Report

Quoted By: >>52163014

>>52162506
post your vgc tournament wins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:29:16 No.52162906 Report

Quoted By: >>52163082

>>52162862
>shitmon
70/115/70/70/70/105 + volt absorb is pretty respectable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:29:54 No.52162921 Report

Quoted By: >>52165353

>>52162500
It's very interesting for competitive but for casual single player it's a mostly useless ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:31:09 No.52162939 Report

Quoted By:

>>52162638
No way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:33:13 No.52162971 Report

Quoted By:

>>52162506
2900
source: trust me
it's just a revive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:34:14 No.52162985 Report

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>>52162862
>shitmon
This shit is 115 attack 105 speed, stronger than Zeraora and faster than Garchomp, and is Fighting/electric.
This shite would have been OU being able to take of Ferropex Corviknight Heatran Slowbro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:34:37 No.52162991 Report

Quoted By: >>52164422

>>52162727
Healing Wish might as well be 1PP in competitive, you're not going to use it more than once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:36:34 No.52163014 Report

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>>52162890
I dont go to tournaments due to the rampant hacking issue VGC has proven to not care about. Last time I went to a tournament I got robbed of my win because of Timer Stalling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:37:05 No.52163023 Report

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>>52162429
Thankfully the move is on two shitmons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:39:32 No.52163066 Report

Quoted By: >>52163083

I don't know everytime I see this shitmon in game I one shot ti

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:40:34 No.52163082 Report

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>>52162906
70 HP and defenses is frail anon, and 115 attack is pretty sub standard. 105 speed is the only good thing about it.

Pawmoot as the same bulk as pokemon like Eevee, Lucario, and Froslass but without any good defensive typing giving it resistances. Electric/Steel/Bug/Rock/Dark aren't the greatest resistances for a frail mon to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:40:35 No.52163083 Report

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>>52163066
probably because it evolves twice but just gets big

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2022 23:42:52 No.52163115 Report

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>>52162651
Make Healing wish not kill the user and have only 1 pp too so people shut their mouth and we have 2 item-like moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 00:57:21 No.52164323 Report

Quoted By: >>52164647

>>52162429
Who other mons get this skill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 01:02:12 No.52164422 Report

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>>52162991
>revive the healing wish user with Pawmot
get outplayed kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 01:07:44 No.52164536 Report

Quoted By: >>52164604

>>52162769
is smeargle in game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 01:10:44 No.52164604 Report

Quoted By: >>52165562

>>52164536
No, and I bet they cut it again because GameFreak is still butthurt over it with Dark Void.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 01:12:59 No.52164647 Report

Quoted By: >>52165177

>>52164323
The dung beetle. That’s it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 01:45:40 No.52165177 Report

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>>52164647
I love that beetle even more now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 01:48:33 No.52165214 Report

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>>52162769
People will run Leppa on it, the appeal of having a second revive is too strong.

bbnd

bbnd Thu 17 Nov 2022 01:56:40 No.52165353 Report

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>>52162921
says you...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:01:23 No.52165418 Report

Quoted By: >>52165434 >>52165582

>>52162429
>Ask for advice

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:02:14 No.52165434 Report

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>>52165418

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:03:40 No.52165458 Report

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>>52162429
This fucker will be banned within a month.
Rabsca might actually get to stay since it is a shitmon outside of Revival Blessing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:05:18 No.52165483 Report

Quoted By: >>52165521 >>52165889 >>52166053 >>52166131

>have to use a shitmon to revive one of your own
Seems fair to me. Only time it will be broken is if it gets added to a pseudo, legendary, or mythical.
Or you know, a good Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:07:47 No.52165521 Report

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>>52165483
It's not that bad though. It has serviceable stats and moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:09:52 No.52165562 Report

Quoted By: >>52166764

>>52164604
Dark Void is useless nowadays tho, who wants to use a move with 50% accuracy? Might as well go for Sheer Cold or Fissure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:10:57 No.52165582 Report

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>>52165418
I think it just look up the highest stat and weakest move and tell you to replace it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:27:31 No.52165834 Report

Quoted By:

>>52162613
thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:32:17 No.52165889 Report

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>>52165483
>Only time it will be broken is if it gets added to a pseudo, legendary, or mythical.
that's going to happen. It eventually happens with every single signature move. Megahorn used to be heracross' ultra powerful signature move now it seems like everything with a horn can/has learned it at some point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:45:32 No.52166053 Report

Quoted By: >>52166265

>>52165483
>shitmon
It's not Spidops tier, it can hold its own thanks to good base stats and movepool.
It's fast enough so it'll have no trouble using this move.

It's OP, you have to save your checks to check something again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:53:41 No.52166131 Report

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>>52165483
Pawmot isn't too bad. It's an electric mon with moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 02:57:41 No.52166196 Report

Quoted By: >>52166287

>25+ years to add Raise from Final Fantasy
Kek at least they outstripped Kingdom Hearts in this one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 03:00:00 No.52166234 Report

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>>52162658
>what is competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 03:02:10 No.52166265 Report

Quoted By: >>52167104

>>52166053
it's a fucking gimmick.

Base 70 defenses are shit, so this thing isn't switching into neutral attacks from OU or VGC attackers, 105 speed is good but you're still forced to run a positive speed nature to not get outrun by base 100's running +speed. 115 attack is low by OU standards, and if you run a Atk/spd EV spread you're even weaker defensively.

OU is beyond this guy, but UU...It'll terrorize UU till it's banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 03:03:36 No.52166287 Report

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>>52166196
KH1 had it, Tinkerbell summon will revive you once if you die, and it constantly heal you with no time limit and leave only after you died and got revived. It was broken as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 03:05:38 No.52166318 Report

Quoted By: >>52166445

Can Mew not also learn this move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 03:07:17 No.52166348 Report

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>>52162613
Yeah people called that when we saw the description for the prevo mentioning it rubbed its hands together before shocking

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 03:14:20 No.52166445 Report

Quoted By:

>>52166318
Maybe in the DLC if they add a tutor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 03:15:08 No.52166461 Report

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>move does literally anything besides 90 damage
>"omg this broken??!?"
Your probably better off just going for damage in most cases

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 03:37:58 No.52166764 Report

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>>52165562
They really did overkill on it. Making it Darkrai exclusive would've been nerf enough but they had to go and make sure Darkrai itself wouldn't want to use it either

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 04:04:05 No.52167104 Report

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>>52166265
Why would its bulk matter when it can rez whatever it wants ?
>115 attack
It means that it's not passive.
It can revenge kill things if it wants, then rez and die whatever you'll need.
Or just Volt Switch out and save his revive for later. It has options and it's not a sitting duck.

I'm not sure how you can see reviving one of your mon as a gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2022 04:07:27 No.52167155 Report

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