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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:01:52 No.52302824 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>52302872 >>52302894 >>52302896 >>52302940 >>52302988 >>52303094 >>52303203 >>52303393 >>52303407 >>52303500 >>52303712 >>52304951 >>52305010 >>52305015 >>52305107 >>52305358

You mean to tell me they gave this guy 3 new variants and NONE OF THEM ARE VIABLE?!?!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:04:09 No.52302872 Report

Quoted By: >>52302940

>>52302824
shit concept and shit execution

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:05:24 No.52302894 Report

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>>52302824
Don't worry, they're getting a mega evolution on the DLC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:05:25 No.52302896 Report

Quoted By: >>52303340

>>52302824
Is Paldean Turos bigger?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:06:44 No.52302921 Report

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I was thinking there's no way a Fighting/X with Tauros' stats would be bad, but then I saw they took 10 speed off of the Paldean forms...RIP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:08:49 No.52302940 Report

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>>52302824
I haven't been following comp, how aren't they viable?

>>52302872
I like the concept (that regional form can be subdivided further in to breeds), its an fun bit of world building. But in practice it just results in three extremely similar Pokemon, the pure fighting one seems especially pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:11:51 No.52302988 Report

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>>52302824
Was anyone else expecting the new forms to be more varied? They're literally just black tauros with different color highlights

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:18:29 No.52303094 Report

Quoted By: >>52303616

>>52302824
>Mono-Fighting Tauros doesn't have absolutely massive horns to better convey its focus on headbutting.
>Fire Tauros doesn't have its tail fuse on fire, which burns down rapidly and explodes to propel it into a lethal charge while its mane erupts with fire plumes.
>Water Tauros...actually Water Tauros is mostly fine, but all three should have differently colored forehead gems to make them stand out more. Also if the horns don't spin forward and shoot water, they totally should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:19:20 No.52303111 Report

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>could have added anything to the game
>someone just said "just add three black bulls"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:25:12 No.52303203 Report

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>>52302824
They're actually different, it's just that some genius decided making them all monochrome was a good idea and that it wouldn't make them all look samey as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:30:54 No.52303302 Report

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>slower than the original
They were always doomed. But the water one at least has Aqua Jet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:33:10 No.52303340 Report

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>>52302896
The Fighting one is the heaviest, Fire is lighter than normal Tauros

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:36:42 No.52303393 Report

Quoted By: >>52303521

>>52302824
>-10 Speed
>Cud Chew instead of Sheer Force

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:37:19 No.52303407 Report

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>>52302824
>3 new variation
>but what if we only changed the types?
>slower than the original

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:39:11 No.52303441 Report

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trading 10 speed to attack is good, actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:42:47 No.52303500 Report

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>>52302824
I get that regional variants have to have similar stats to the original, but you'd think if they wanted to revisit an old classic they'd look at how it fared in its heyday.
In RBY, Tauros dominated, because it was fast, bulky, and could crit like no other.

So here's what you do.
Give it Super Luck (or a reskinned version, like "Matador" or "Picador"), and some high-crit moves.
Fire Tauros gets Blaze Kick.
Water Tauros gets Aqua Cutter.
All three get Drill Run (fits the "in his heyday" flavour, since Tauros used to get Horn Drill)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:44:13 No.52303521 Report

Quoted By: >>52303932

>>52303393
Tauros never really had that many moves to take advantage of SF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:49:05 No.52303616 Report

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>>52303094
I thought that it would be clever to have the element Tauros use their respective elements to aid them in boosting their speed and delivery. Fire uses combustion and superheats their horns when they gore the target, and Water hydroplanes by generating water from their hooves to increase speed while unleashing a pressurized explosion of water from their horns to blow away the opponent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:54:38 No.52303712 Report

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>>52302824
Regular is a good counter against Miraidon in AG
Turn ground and launch earthquake

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:55:46 No.52303736 Report

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Why didn't they make the third one part grass? It would have complimented the starters finely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 03:08:09 No.52303932 Report

Quoted By: >>52303992

>>52303521
>stab bodyslam/rock climb
>iron head
>zen headbutt
>rockslide/stone edge
>throat chop
>flamethrower/thunderbolt/ice beam/shadow ball
Wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 03:11:04 No.52303992 Report

Quoted By: >>52304085

>>52303932
Body Slam is great, but the rest of those moves are okay at best. Its coverage is really patchy. The lack of a worthwhile ground move with a secondary effect really hurts a lot of physical Sheer Force mons.
>>flamethrower/thunderbolt/ice beam/shadow ball
Seriously? With 40 special attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 03:18:19 No.52304085 Report

Quoted By: >>52304117

>>52303992
Tauros can actually use fireblast pretty decently VS the few steel bug/grass that matter, lo+sherforce made fireblast a bit better than it was in Gen 3-4

Paldean lost spatk so it became 30 instead of 40, also you have more choices for stab making fireblast and overheat pointless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 03:20:59 No.52304117 Report

Quoted By: >>52304714

>>52304085
One of them doesn't need to bother with Fire Blast because it gets Flare Blitz. The others get a STAB fighting move that would hit anything a fire move would generally be employed on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:03:37 No.52304714 Report

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>>52304117
And you get hit by double helmet+thorns
Fireblast was the cleanest out, Tauros fireblast was always useful in the skarmbliss days, sheer force lo updated it a bit
Tauros competitive history is interesting even during his fall from grace

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:18:41 No.52304951 Report

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>>52302824
they're all viable in the kitchen
i'm glad they made the new variants all fighting type so my favored bird of prey, talonflame, can kill and roast them more easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:22:00 No.52305010 Report

Quoted By: >>52306796 >>52306853

>>52302824
So is there any reason at all to use the pure fighting Tauros over the water/fire breed? Because it feels like they completely cucked the regional variant in its own gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:22:14 No.52305015 Report

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>>52302824
Is Raging Bull a better version of Tera Blast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:27:52 No.52305107 Report

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>>52302824
Why are they fighting types, they aren't even bipedal. Also what is the water one shooting out, milk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:42:57 No.52305358 Report

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>>52302824
Bizarre choice to not have the dual types be evos for the mono fighting variant. They’ll all be about as good as the original form, but it feels like a missed opportunity. All three have middling-to-good stats, decent abilities, and a mostly-pointless signature move. Definition of mid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 06:13:46 No.52306796 Report

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>>52305010
>So is there any reason at all to use the pure fighting Tauros over the water/fire breed?

the fact it look better

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 06:18:59 No.52306853 Report

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>>52305010
The move Raging bull becomes FIGHTING.

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