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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:46:09 No.52313737 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>52313759 >>52313782 >>52313806 >>52314493

I can't really fully appreciate why they would make pic related, a perfect tech demo for the future of open world Pokemon games, and then immediately backtrack on some of its best features for Scarlett and Violet despite them otherwise being so similar

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:46:59 No.52313749 Report

Quoted By: >>52314244 >>52314363

SV >>>>>>>>>>>> PLA
SV had the biggest launch in Nintendo history btw

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:47:08 No.52313753 Report

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>I can't really fully appreciate why they would make pic related
end of sentence for me

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:47:36 No.52313759 Report

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>>52313737
One step forward, three steps back, that’s the Gamefreak way.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:49:11 No.52313782 Report

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>>52313737
>and then immediately backtrack on some of its best features for Scarlett and Violet despite them otherwise being so similar
It is literally the GameFreak method. It is their fucking design philosophy to get rid of all the things people like best about a game for the next game, because they think that will "leave them unique."

I wish more casual fans were aware that this isn't just complaining, but something GameFreak itself has admitted, maybe then it would finally dawn on them that SV being a technical trainwreck isn't a surprise, it's literally what GF has set out to do from the very start, they're just THAT BAD at developing games.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:50:17 No.52313806 Report

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>>52313737
cause this was a spinoff. mainline games have been shit for ages.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:51:59 No.52313825 Report

Quoted By: >>52314347

weren't they developed simultaneously by different teams tho?

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:52:05 No.52313828 Report

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PLA is the purest of kino

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:52:41 No.52313834 Report

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PLA is utter dog shit

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:53:42 No.52313850 Report

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PLA isn't perfect but it's the most innovative Pokemon game since the halcyon days of Pokemon Channel

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:54:36 No.52313864 Report

Quoted By: >>52314244 >>52314259

SV won
PLA lost

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 16:59:08 No.52313939 Report

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appreciate how hard PLA kino mindbroke SwShit and ScatVomit troons

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:01:49 No.52313989 Report

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PLA and SV were being developed at the same time, so by the time they found out what worked in PLA, they didn't have any time to implement it into the main game, except for maybe a few minor things. Expect a bunch of improvements that were PLA to come in the $30 SV DLC.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:02:21 No.52313996 Report

Quoted By: >>52314244

10 millions copies sold in 3 days > botted YT poll with less than 40K votes

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:13:59 No.52314163 Report

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:19:52 No.52314244 Report

Quoted By: >>52314256 >>52314277

>>52313749
>>52313864
>>52313996
>the "sales=quality" argument again
I guess it's what they have to resort to when there's nothing else

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:20:38 No.52314256 Report

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>>52314244
As opposed to you, who has nothing. Not even sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:20:49 No.52314259 Report

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>>52313864
People bought SV expecting it to be like legends but better

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:22:14 No.52314277 Report

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>>52314244
Sales do equal quality because we have literally nothing else to measure you fucking retard. Do you have a better way to determine quality outside of your shitty opinions?

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:23:17 No.52314294 Report

Quoted By: >>52314302 >>52314373

PLA is great because it actually FEELS like a console game and broke free of the gen 1 traditions that have sorta been chaining Pokemon down.

>Battle System
is now basically FFX
Flesh it out with mainline mechanics and it's perfect.

>catching
Needs some work but over all it's a great idea. No, I DONT want to do the whole battle process to catch some random shitmon.

>QoL improvements
Having mints/evo items/grit being farm-able in post game is great. Evolution not being tied to leveling. You can evolve something like Eevee in to Umberon as soon as it hits the friendship levels required, no need to level one more time or use a rare candy.

>Grit system
Might need some work. But the fact it's not an obtuse mess that requires out of game material to fully grasp, you can't "ruin" a mon just by playing the game like a normal person, and is not just a time/money sink like the IV/EV system makes it absurdly better.

S/V sold so well because people hoped it would be more like PLA.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:23:56 No.52314302 Report

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>>52314294
>>Battle System
I literally stopped reading there. PLA did many things right, but the battle system was NOT one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:24:18 No.52314313 Report

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>>52314277
You could look at review score aggregates, the metrics actually intended to measure quality, but it'd probably contradict your narrative, so you'll have to find some way to justify sales numbers being a better measuring stick of quality.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:25:32 No.52314347 Report

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>>52313825
Just like everything they've done since BW, yes. /vp/ is still too young to fully grasp the notion of one company having two different groups of people working on different projects from each other, with different endgoals and dev roadmaps in mind.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:25:44 No.52314348 Report

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PLA is just zr zr zr zr the game, it's extremely boring

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:26:28 No.52314363 Report

Quoted By: >>52314381 >>52314423

>>52313749
and the lowest pokemon mainline reviews

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:26:28 No.52314364 Report

Quoted By: >>52314460

>>52314313
>You could look at review score aggregates
You mean the ones people from here intentionally review bombed despite never playing the game?

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:27:09 No.52314373 Report

Quoted By: >>52314450

>>52314294
>PLA is great because it actually FEELS like a console game
It feels like a Facebook game that they charged $60 for.
>and broke free of the gen 1 traditions that have sorta been chaining Pokemon down
And replaced them with nothing but autistic to-do lists.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:27:28 No.52314381 Report

Quoted By: >>52314423

>>52314363
>and the lowest pokemon mainline reviews
As well as THE lowest user score of any pokemon game ever

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:28:56 No.52314423 Report

Quoted By: >>52314447

>>52314363
>>52314381
Yes we know you orchestrated a discord review bomb raid, doesn't change the fact SV is better than PLA and sold better.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:30:02 No.52314447 Report

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>>52314423
>has a whole region living in their head
kek

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:30:08 No.52314450 Report

Quoted By: >>52314574

>>52314373
>y yea well FACEBOOK
explain how it is like a browser game? I've never played them but they all looked like retarded puzzle games or harvest moon shit.

>To do list
which you can 100% ignore unless you are shiny hunting.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:30:31 No.52314460 Report

Quoted By: >>52314524

>>52314364
Sure, because it's an aggregate and it stands to reason that there are also plenty of people on the other side who are giving it perfect scores despite it not deserving them, but you could also look at the "professional" review score aggregates where there are no review bombs.

But hey, I'm sure that you can just handwave that too by saying that it's just opinions and it doesn't matter because you don't understand how aggregates work and you've got a specific narrative you need to peddle.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:32:18 No.52314493 Report

Quoted By: >>52314548

>>52313737
Developed at around the same time so very probably had different teams with team A working on the next main games. Like always, team B delivers the better game.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:34:14 No.52314524 Report

Quoted By: >>52314583

>>52314460
You do realize the VAST majority of people who buy and enjoy games don't review them, right? I have never once in my fucking life reviewed a game.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:35:37 No.52314548 Report

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>>52314493
Hopefully they are smart enough to combine the best of both worlds for the next game

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:37:14 No.52314574 Report

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>>52314450
>explain how it is like a browser game?
It's a shallow, repetitive checklist simulator.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:37:24 No.52314583 Report

Quoted By: >>52314928

>>52314524
And the VAST majority of people who buy and don't enjoy games also don't review them. Again, you don't know how aggregates work. Here's my last engagement with you though, because there's zero skin off my nose regarding how you feel about PLA or SV.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 17:55:43 No.52314928 Report

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>>52314583
I liked both PLA and SV though lol. All I did was say PLA has a shit battle system.

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