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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 03:19:57 No.52324766 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>52325149 >>52325182 >>52326358 >>52326741 >>52327078 >>52327205

So was Eviolite Bisharp just a meme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 03:42:04 No.52325149 Report

Quoted By: >>52325171 >>52326340 >>52326347 >>52326755 >>52326939

>>52324766
Pretty sure Porygon 2 or Dusclops are still the only eviolite mons worth a fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 03:43:18 No.52325171 Report

Quoted By: >>52327043

>>52325149
Chansey unless it got move cull cucked and lost healing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 03:44:00 No.52325182 Report

Quoted By: >>52325281

>>52324766
Rhydon has much better defensive stats, and you don’t ever see it used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 03:49:14 No.52325281 Report

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>>52325182
Rhydon is a slow Rock type; and Rock is one of the worst defensive typings in the game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:04:08 No.52326340 Report

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>>52325149
Also

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:04:50 No.52326347 Report

Quoted By: >>52326353

>>52325149
Thoughts on Dunsparce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:05:41 No.52326353 Report

Quoted By: >>52326388 >>52326847

>>52326347
Busted, but people haven't figured it out yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:06:06 No.52326358 Report

Quoted By: >>52327064

>>52324766
>these magic wand cutout models pasted onto a low-res stretched out texture
This is a 2022 game. Game Freak's greatest creation yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:06:36 No.52326364 Report

Quoted By: >>52326381

Bisharp is still Bisharp. It slaps hard with sucker punch. Shame it no longer has knock off. Eviolite is just a bonus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:07:53 No.52326381 Report

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>>52326364
This, Bisharp is still worth using even without eviolite considering that it and Kingambit operate on completely different speed tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:08:45 No.52326388 Report

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>>52326353
>>52326353
>eviolite dunsparce
literally just sparce

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:34:40 No.52326741 Report

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>>52324766
>eviolite on something that frail and with zero recovery
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:36:02 No.52326755 Report

Quoted By: >>52326944

>>52325149
Hisuian Qwilfish will be at least Dusclops tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:42:52 No.52326847 Report

Quoted By: >>52326962 >>52327092 >>52327174

>>52326353
Looked into it, and Eviolite dunsparce has similar defense stats to fucking Lugia
Yup… I’m thinking it’s based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:51:07 No.52326939 Report

Quoted By: >>52326958

>>52325149
Eviolite Clefairy took me far during 2015 Aus VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:51:38 No.52326944 Report

Quoted By: >>52327009

>>52326755
>can't set trick room with fake out immunity
Not even close to Dusclops

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:53:18 No.52326958 Report

Quoted By: >>52326973

>>52326939
That's because it's a Clefairy with Friend Guard. Eviolite's not even a staple for that slot, people replace it with other items all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:53:41 No.52326962 Report

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>>52326847
That combined with serene grace STAB body slam and a wide array of support and coverage moves.
I dread the moment this inevitably becomes popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:54:42 No.52326973 Report

Quoted By: >>52327022

>>52326958
Why would you use anything other than eviolite or sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:58:17 No.52327009 Report

Quoted By: >>52327027

>>52326944
It has intimidate and one of the best defensive typings in the game, can spikes and t-spikes, has t-wave, toxic, and taunt support, and unlike Dusclops has some actual offensive presence off of a fairly decent 95 attack and a signature move with a 50% poison chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 05:59:19 No.52327022 Report

Quoted By: >>52327052

>>52326973
Because it's a utility slot and there's over a dozen items you can be running for specific purposes on that slot? You mentioned one yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:00:02 No.52327027 Report

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>>52327009
That would be great in singles but not very useful in doubles, which is where Dusclops is used

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:01:17 No.52327043 Report

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>>52325171
yes but it's usually hdb blissey instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:01:44 No.52327052 Report

Quoted By: >>52327105

>>52327022
Both the items I mentioned are used to compensate for Clefairy's trash defenses. Give it anything else and it will just die after the first follow me, losing a ton of value

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:02:52 No.52327064 Report

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>>52326358
>magic wand cutout models
I thought something was off...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:03:53 No.52327078 Report

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>>52324766
it was always a meme if you actually played the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:05:01 No.52327092 Report

Quoted By: >>52327147

>>52326847
Have a good build in mind for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:06:47 No.52327105 Report

Quoted By: >>52327122

>>52327052
I like that you're arguing an objective statement, like your opinion somehow changes how people run the Pokemon competitively. Yeah, it dies faster when you give it less survivability, that's how that works, and yet people still do it just like they do with every other utility slot when the situation calls for it, like countering a telegraphed Taunt user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:08:13 No.52327122 Report

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>>52327105
My original post is a question, why would you run other items, as in what situations make other items more viable than the two typical ones and which items are they

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:10:47 No.52327147 Report

Quoted By: >>52327174 >>52327285 >>52327349

>>52327092
Full bulk with 0 speed, serene grace, body slam, yawn, protect, rock slide

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:11:00 No.52327151 Report

Quoted By: >>52327189

What about eviolite Urasaring?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:12:41 No.52327174 Report

Quoted By: >>52327276

>>52326847
>>52327147
Been racking my brain for a good defense pokemon, stealing this. thanks anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:13:58 No.52327189 Report

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>>52327151
Not very good.
Its abilities combined with eviolite offer no utility at all, its moveset is all centered around hitting hard, but with eviolite it can't take advantage of guts or quick feet (which are overrated imo) or other boosts. Ursaluna is way better in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:16:21 No.52327205 Report

Quoted By: >>52327235

>>52324766
I see it in natdex more often than the evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:20:27 No.52327235 Report

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>>52327205
because natdex didn't remove the defog users/intimidate users like SV OU did, and that extra speed is more important on a defiant mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:24:47 No.52327276 Report

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>>52327174
Actually maybe you shouldn't run 0 speed, you should have just enough to outspeed selected threats while they're paralyzed (unless you use trick room)
As you can probably tell the plan for this build is to just paraflinch the opponents until they disconnect

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:25:43 No.52327285 Report

Quoted By: >>52327349

>>52327147
Why not Roost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:31:40 No.52327349 Report

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>>52327147
>>52327285
Yeah, yawn and body slam is kind of redundant. Is eviolite dunsparce the bulkiest thing in the paldea dex?

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:33:01 No.52327363 Report

Quoted By: >>52327400

Can you use eviolite on a pokemon that has a regional variant that evolves like quilfish for example?

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2022 06:36:46 No.52327400 Report

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>>52327363
Only on the variant that has the capability to evolve, so Hisuian Qwilfish

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