>>52361985I think this thing unironically prefers overgrow, you're just spamming knock off and flower trick 9 times out of 10 anyway. Otherwise you're just u turning and it's not like bug STAB u turn is that worthwhile. It's just kind of an ok band user/scarfer, not crazy but not bad.
I think gren is going to be stuck in a similar niche of going choice item almost all the time. Scarf protean ice beam with its speed will always be worth something. It got swords dance but can't really use it.
Cinder seems like maybe the worst of the three but still alright. Won't want to run scarf because of its worse coverage and rocks weakness. Sucker punch will hurt a lot less from it but it's something. Can maybe get some use out of a bulk up set by turning fighting? Any fat water type blanks it hard, but fast offensive fires are always kind of valuable.
While we're here,
skeledirge is solid, leans heavily on tera fairy in OU so if that gets banned it'll drop off big time. Might have some niche applications with its funky base typing but OU's current scary fairy type has knock off, donphans exist, and the place is still ghost + dark city so currently it's looking like no. Really good in ubers, funnily enough.
Duck gets mogged so hard by palafin it's not even funny, but now that the dolphin's banned it's doing alright. Also leans on tera a fair bit to muscle past some things. I could see a weird defensive set with roost and defog showing up eventually, like infernape's slack off taunt set from gen 6.
