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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:54:16 No.52567879 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>52567885 >>52567906 >>52567933 >>52569925 >>52569950 >>52569990 >>52570577 >>52571088 >>52571499

>Defiant
>Pressure
>Supreme Overlord
Which one? They're all good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:55:29 No.52567885 Report

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>>52567879
Defiant

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 01:58:09 No.52567906 Report

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>>52567879
Supreme Overlord until Landorus and Incelroar come back

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:00:42 No.52567933 Report

Quoted By: >>52568115 >>52571818 >>52572194 >>52572492

>>52567879
Only chads know that his name implies that he is willing to sacrifice pawniard to win. Pretty based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:08:09 No.52568011 Report

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Supreme Overlord when using him late in battle, otherwise Defiant and in doubles. Pressure is shit, Kingambit may be bulky but typing isn't so great defensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:09:27 No.52568025 Report

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Defiant is its only good ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 02:17:39 No.52568115 Report

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>>52567933
Everyone knows that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:06:30 No.52569925 Report

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>>52567879
Defiant in doubles.
Supreme Overlord in singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:09:38 No.52569942 Report

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Just like how you can now change move builds on the fly, you can also do the same with abilities
How much better is the game now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:11:06 No.52569950 Report

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>>52567879
Defiant shits on the other two. Supreme Overlord is only decent in fanficshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:16:43 No.52569990 Report

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>>52567879
Defiant. Shitgambit is too slow to be a sweeper using S.O

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:18:36 No.52570008 Report

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>>52569942
100% better. I keep saying GameFuck took at least some QoL suggestions from Showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:19:04 No.52570016 Report

Quoted By: >>52570028 >>52570047 >>52571001 >>52571013 >>52571450

Out of pure curiosity, opinions on Eviolite Bisharp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:20:02 No.52570028 Report

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>>52570016
It's shit. It isn't really any bulkier than Kingambit and comes at a significant loss of power and the use of a real hold item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 05:22:57 No.52570047 Report

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>>52570016
>memiolite Bisharp
Don't listen to the journos who wrote about it being superior. It's basically shit in every way except speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:22:14 No.52570577 Report

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>>52567879
Does he make a good dedicated catcher? He gets false swipe and has good attack and bulk, but lacks speed or the ability to put them to sleep

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:24:28 No.52570588 Report

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>>52570577
I use Gallade instead since it gets hypnosis

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:26:34 No.52570603 Report

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>>52570577
Kingambit with Thunder Wave is ok
Breloom or Parasect is optimal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:28:19 No.52570618 Report

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Defiant. Slow ass nigga ain't sweeping shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:28:51 No.52570619 Report

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>>52570577
Breloom is premier nigger catcher

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:32:05 No.52570635 Report

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>>52570588
>>52570603
>>52570619
Currently have Gallade/Breloom as my main combo, but when looking at the list of swipers, Kingambit caught my eye. Mostly annoyed that the only Pokémon in the entire game that gets Scrappy can't learn False Swipe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:52:05 No.52570785 Report

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I run Supreme Overlord in doubles. I really only see Arcanine as an Intimidate user, and Gyarados once in a while, so I almost never get procs from defiant. He can outbulk or sweep in trick room pretty well, and the 10-20% boost from SO helps him pick up a few extra KOs against bulkier EV spreads or mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 06:52:30 No.52570792 Report

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>>52570635
>Mostly annoyed that the only Pokémon in the entire game that gets Scrappy can't learn False Swipe
H-Decidueye is coming when Home opens and I'm sure they get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 07:03:31 No.52570861 Report

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>>52570792
Excellent! I'll get one trained up in PLA in anticipation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 07:25:47 No.52571001 Report

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>>52570016
Not as good as Kingambit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 07:28:04 No.52571013 Report

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>>52570016
It will be an absolute menace in the tier below the one Kingambit ends up in

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 07:37:07 No.52571088 Report

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>>52567879
Supreme Overlord in OU isn't exactly limited to the late game, it already starts being decent with one fainted teammate and equivalent to Tough Claws with three.

In VGC it's kinda bad because it has a lower cap and because it doesn't increase if a ally faints while Kingambit is already out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 08:49:26 No.52571450 Report

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>>52570016
funnily enough same bulk as kingambit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:03:56 No.52571499 Report

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>>52567879
>smogon singles
Supreme Overlord if you're building your whole team around it (hint: kill the fighting type first)
Pressure if you want to bully stall even harder
>VGC doubles
Still Pressure, because there are no good Intimidate mons in the meta yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:05:11 No.52571504 Report

Quoted By: >>52571988 >>52572049

>Bisharp is an Eastern Knight
>Turns into a Shogun for its final evolution
Why? It should be like an Arthurian villain or something. What a shit evolution from a design perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 09:06:14 No.52571507 Report

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>>52567906
>Supreme Overlord
Doesnt boost atk stat but move BP by 1.1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:16:51 No.52571808 Report

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>>52571499
>Pressure if you want to bully stall even harder
How? Pressure doesn't work against healing moves because they're self-targeting, you are better off using Supreme Overlord to outdamage their recovery.
>there are no good Intimidate mons in the meta yet
Paldean Tauros is decent enough in VGC and Defiant is also useful against moves like Icy Wind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:18:20 No.52571818 Report

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>>52567933
>Only chads know
It's plain as day it's yet another Nobunaga caricature

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:18:54 No.52571822 Report

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>>52570785
Intimidate feels not as useful now, clear amulet is too common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:20:06 No.52571829 Report

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>>52570577
>good dedicated catcher
You can catch 90% of the pokémon by throwing a plain pokéball at them turn one.
For the rest you just need to get them to red health.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:33:34 No.52571956 Report

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>>52571822
I feel like there's so many abilities that ignore Intimate as well. Has it been like this and I just didn't notice or did they nerf it this gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:37:51 No.52571988 Report

Quoted By: >>52572175

>>52571504
>goes from lowly soldier
>to general
>to shogun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:45:29 No.52572034 Report

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>>52571956
Some stuff has been buffed to resist Intimidate through the years. It wasn't this gen, but it's fairly recent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:47:22 No.52572049 Report

Quoted By: >>52572096

>>52571504
He's Pawn, Bishop, King. Stop inserting your fanfics

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 10:55:25 No.52572096 Report

Quoted By: >>52572175

>>52572049
The pawn, bishop, king thing is just a localization fanfic.
The lines' names in Japanese have no chess references at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 11:05:22 No.52572175 Report

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>>52572096
I mean, it's not all that inaccurate >>52571988

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 11:07:34 No.52572194 Report

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>>52567933
Its Violet entry straight up says that Kingambit aren't very good at strategies, they just unga bunga to victory.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 11:54:04 No.52572492 Report

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>>52567933
We all know he's retarded, anon.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Dec 2022 12:01:43 No.52572526 Report

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>>52572194
>>52572492
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