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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:29:19 No.52615870 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>52616095 >>52616392 >>52616399 >>52616531 >>52616608 >>52618113 >>52621519 >>52621687

You can’t just call this shitty map design and the turn around and praise the routes. This is literally what routes would’ve been like if they were good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:48:56 No.52616095 Report

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>>52615870
it's honestly fine, it's just annoying that you don't have all of your traversal options right off the bat because you can end up in dead-end areas that you need to fast travel out of, which isn't very interesting design

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 23:13:12 No.52616392 Report

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>>52615870
>travels in a straight line backwards long jumping over every obstacle
nothin personnel kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 23:13:42 No.52616399 Report

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>>52615870
routes are good though
sucks that gf can't make em that good anymore but ya know

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 23:21:56 No.52616531 Report

Quoted By: >>52618040 >>52618766

>>52615870
No one ever says SV have bad level design.
It is clearly all rights and packed with hidden items and tera mons in every nook and cranny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 23:27:07 No.52616608 Report

Quoted By: >>52618040

>>52615870
they tell you multiple times in the game you can go wherever; there are no routes because it’s supposed to be “open world”. what are you trying to accomplish with drawing lines on a very small part of the map?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 01:27:40 No.52618040 Report

Quoted By: >>52621121

>>52616531
I’ve heard quite a few people shitting on the map design and saying the routes of old were better
>>52616608
I’m just saying that a lot of the accusations of SV “not having any level design” are inaccurate, there’s plenty of level design, which is what I outlined in the OP pic, it’s all the various branching paths you can take.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 01:34:59 No.52618113 Report

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>>52615870
I really like the map in SV. I Just wish there were more incentives to explore the areas besides picking up potions and stuff.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 01:39:13 No.52618156 Report

Quoted By: >>52621493

This was hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 02:34:56 No.52618766 Report

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>>52616531
I do

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:35:56 No.52621067 Report

Quoted By: >>52621107

Red took over 15 hours staring at the map because Leaf kept sucking his schizo cock while he was trying to concentrate on the map lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:41:17 No.52621107 Report

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>>52621067
Barney

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:44:21 No.52621121 Report

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>>52618040
Watch as they start to bitch when GF decided to go back to routes in the future.

"Why did GF go back to the route system? Why are they depriving us of the open world experience?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 07:56:18 No.52621493 Report

Quoted By: >>52621557

>>52618156
I legit was surprised when I found out where fish legend seal was.
I guess you just can go and ask history teacher to mark them on the map but without it it is very well hidden

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:01:57 No.52621519 Report

Quoted By: >>52621533 >>52621564 >>52621861 >>52622723

>>52615870
it's shit because it's an open world meme slog, you dip
routes were btter because they were handcrafted and purpose-built
yes, hallways > exploration
fucking seethe children

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:05:13 No.52621533 Report

Quoted By: >>52621589

>>52621519
>complains about handholding hallways
>but cries about the removal of those traditional routes
whatever you say, bub

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:09:43 No.52621557 Report

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>>52621493
I passed by the cave several times because I just assumed it would be a dead end and you couldn't go in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:10:21 No.52621564 Report

Quoted By: >>52621595 >>52621601

>>52621519
>they were handcrafted and purpose-built
so is the open world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:16:24 No.52621589 Report

Quoted By: >>52621614

>>52621533
>>complains about handholding hallways
i have literally never, not once
>le /vp/ is all one person

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:17:37 No.52621595 Report

Quoted By: >>52621600 >>52621615 >>52622723

>>52621564
ok and it fucking sucks to explore, it's a chore to slog through
i hate open world games so much it's unreal
I would replay gens 4 and 5 a million times before gen 9, in fact i already play those every couple years anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:19:10 No.52621600 Report

Quoted By: >>52621605 >>52621607

>>52621595
>it's a chore to slog through
But hallways where you’re interrupted by random encounters every 3 seconds and pointless HM obstacles isn’t?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:19:11 No.52621601 Report

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>>52621564
Agreed. The caves especially highlight the fact that they intentionally built most of the routes not RNG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:19:39 No.52621605 Report

Quoted By: >>52621608 >>52622723

>>52621600
they are but they're still more enjoyable
lesser of 2 evils retard-kun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:20:40 No.52621607 Report

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>>52621600
>actually hating random encounters as opposed to overworld garbage
holy soulless
JRPGs arent for you kid
stick to ff15 i guess Barry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:20:43 No.52621608 Report

Quoted By: >>52621613

>>52621605
>but they're still more enjoyable
In what way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:22:10 No.52621613 Report

Quoted By: >>52621634 >>52622723

>>52621608
they arent horrifically open-ended and a bitch to 100% explore through, you dont have to go too far to lok for the content, and you get a better feeling game because they dont have to waste dev time making this giant stupid map as opposed to dedicated routes with untraversable space between
anon are you under the impression 'omg...pokemon but botw....' was a good idea
it was a fucking warning

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:22:25 No.52621614 Report

Quoted By: >>52621621

>>52621589
>nuh uh! I never said that!
seethe harder child.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:22:26 No.52621615 Report

Quoted By: >>52621621

>>52621595
>t. seething autist projects their faggot opinion as fact

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:24:46 No.52621621 Report

Quoted By: >>52621635 >>52621667 >>52622723

>>52621614
i quite literally never ever have complained about hallways or routes
I despise the open world meme and it is a plague on gaming
I curse TW3 and BOTW's successes
sorry you cant grasp the idea that multiple viewpoints can be expressed on this board
only literal children that only know nugaming like open world trash
>>52621615
yes, and?
bottom line if you like SV's world design you are ontologically retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:27:09 No.52621634 Report

Quoted By: >>52621646

>>52621613
>they arent horrifically open-ended and a bitch to 100% explore through
So basically you’re whining that the game has too much content, got it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:27:17 No.52621635 Report

Quoted By: >>52621646

>>52621621
Don't use words you don't know the meaning to retard. Go cry about the texture of your soup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:29:37 No.52621646 Report

Quoted By: >>52621651 >>52622723

>>52621634
no, i'm complaining the content is spread thin, far and wide as opposed to compact and well-made
>dude...see that mountain? you can climb it!!!!
why the fuck do i wana spend 20 minutes finding my way around the map up some mountain trail to find a nugget on the ground when you could just put it on the ground at the base of the mountain by a cave entrance and let me see the giant untraversible mountain instead
shit maybe put it on a ledge you need rock climb to get up, better a single ledge get made than an entire piece of shit object and
>>52621635
i know what ever word ive said means thoroughly
you are, to the very core of your being, fucking slow in the brain

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:31:33 No.52621651 Report

Quoted By: >>52621659

>>52621646
>i'm complaining the content is spread thin
In what way?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:33:56 No.52621659 Report

Quoted By: >>52621670

>>52621651
look at this picture of route 212
there is literally no reason to have the vast open fields as opposed to something like this
there is no reason for all the blank space in the corner to have to be rendered or even explorable
why make the game unnecessarily large when you can make it well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:35:39 No.52621667 Report

Quoted By: >>52621676

>>52621621
>sorry you cant grasp the idea that multiple viewpoints can be expressed
ironic

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Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:35:42 No.52621669 Report

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infinitely better than porto marinada or any other seaside/beach sort of area
its clean and to the point, no unnecessary accessability

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:35:57 No.52621670 Report

Quoted By: >>52621676

>>52621659
>there is literally no reason to have the vast open fields
More Pokemon, items, and trainers is the reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:37:39 No.52621676 Report

Quoted By: >>52621692 >>52621693 >>52622723

>>52621670
it isnt more
its the same amount spread thinner across a wider area
it literally isnt 'more', it is just a bigger map with the same content
and I don't like that, I don't want to run around your big faggoty map
I want a small purpose-built route
>>52621667
elaborate you yakubian ape, what irony is there
I'm fully aware you can express your invalid opinion
your taste in world design is shit btw
open world will never be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:38:54 No.52621678 Report

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>dude...see that rock off in the distance? you can cum on it
thats frickin epic bro
i sure wish i could jerk off on one of the trees implied to be off-screen in my ds game
oh well........

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:41:25 No.52621684 Report

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goodnight and goodbye veepee i am closing this thread and not looking back, i must get some rest
i accept your concession

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:41:59 No.52621687 Report

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>>52615870
Maybe I'm just not being observant but I haven't really seen any complaints about the level design of the overworld. Visual complaints sure but the actual way it's designed, not really.

I know given GF's reputation of throwing the baby out with the bathwater that there's a 50/50 chance they'll actually learn anything from SV but I hope they iterate on this style of map design adding more verticality and variety to the environments. There were some good inclusions in Paldea like Asado Desert, Tagtree Thicket, Glaseado Mountain, Dalizapa Passage and the Woodland around Eri's Camp. I would like to see them do more caves and enclosed locations though, Alfornada Cavern and Inlet Grotto are great locations and more like them would be welcome. As for the enclosed I mean both natural and man-made, would've been cool to get a run-down Power Plant or Pokemon Mansion-esque location, the ruins left a bit to be desired same with that ruined tower in the desert, natural variants could be an incredibly dense forest where the trees form multiple levels that intersect and weave between one another, it would have to be a sizeable location to have a realistic build-up from grassland to forested (like Poco Path) to a true forest like the Thicket to a full-on canopy but I think it'd make for a distinct and interesting location to explore especially since they could make full use of the various tree-climbing and dwelling Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:44:14 No.52621692 Report

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>>52621676
>>52621676
>it isnt more
Yes it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:44:18 No.52621693 Report

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>>52621676
>I want a small purpose-built route
Translates as
>I want claustrophobic and 100% linear maze-like shit with zero exploration but with mandatory random encounters shoved in my face every three seconds
Go to sleep gramps. Open worlds are the staple in games nowadays and you can’t do absolutely jackshit about it but cope and seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 08:58:16 No.52621741 Report

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52621676
this bait game is over retard, no more (You)s from me. You can’t say you’re allowed to have differing opinions on here and simultaneously call other’s the wrong one, especially when you said yourself you just don’t personally like open world. fags like you want to be babied so much by being told where to go, then act as if it’s superior game design. keep your delusions to yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 09:28:00 No.52621861 Report

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>>52621519
Structured routes can be better than an open world, but you're delusional if you think Gamefreak is doing a good job of either nowadays.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 12:35:29 No.52622723 Report

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>>52621519
>>52621595
>>52621605
>>52621613
>>52621621
>>52621646
>>52621676
>There are ACTUALLY fucking anons on here that think this and OP wasn’t meming
LMFAO wtf? Bro are you fucking retarded? Have you never left your house or something? I like exploration games because I liked exploring ACTUAL environments as a kid when going on hikes or some shit, and yes I’m afraid ACTUAL fucking environments have wide open spaces in them. Do you have have a fear of open spaces or something?
> horrifically open-ended
Oh wait, you fucking DO KEK
So basically gamefreak finally started making maps that feel REAL to explore and that’s making autists squeal in fear? SV was a win in more ways that I knew

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 14:45:19 No.52623753 Report

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I don’t like SV map. Maybe it’s autism but I feel like it doesn’t have structure so I’m always unsure of where to go or how to get where I want to go without walking in a straight line and potentially missing all the trainers in the area. It also makes no sense that this huge ass region has no roads to speak of.

Game could have been open world while still having clearly marked routes so it’s easier to find the way from one point to another and to help you not miss most trainers in an area. For example TES games, they have roads you can follow with signs and shit that will take you to the towns you wanna go if you follow them.

Also I think the map UI is shit and I hate that the regions don’t have a level range or something marked on them. Essentially my big complaint is that this game gives you 0 clues as to where you are supposed to go next organically, you need to ask the Pokémon Center bitch if you want to not be under leveled or overleveled. It’s bad design imo.

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