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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 09:22:21 No.52712089 View View Reply Original Report

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Now that the dust have settled, was he a good pokemon trainer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 09:26:43 No.52712113 Report

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>>52712089
Canonically the worlds best.
>B-but he didnt do [Game mechanic] logic!
Anons seething that they arent as good as Ash. The anime doesnt operate on the same turn base logic as the games.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 09:29:03 No.52712123 Report

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>>52712089
He was the very best. Like no one ever was.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 09:30:24 No.52712130 Report

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>>52712089
It's terribly funny to me that he finally makes it after getting an elite-ish team that includes Dragonite, Lucario and Gengar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 09:38:28 No.52712168 Report

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>>52712089
Yes. People tend to shit on him for releasing pokemon or not evolving everything but those are honestly good aspects of his character. He respects his pokemon's choices above all, even if it could lead him to trouble, like when allowed his Buizel to continue fighting Paul's Ursaring when it wanted to but ended up fainting. The Paul rivalry in general was great for his character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 09:44:43 No.52712204 Report

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He sucked at the beginning but once Orange Islands picked up he got that work done. Only rough period was BW which unfortunately caused the stigma that he was bad.
>B-but it took him so long to win a league
Yeah but if you look at his track record the fact that he kept making it to the victory round that’s good from a competitive standpoint. The fact that even regional champions speak highly of him and the guy who swept the league with a Darkrai earned his respect should tell you, yes he is a good trainer.
>But he forgets to evolve his Pokémon
He doesn’t forget the show doesn’t allow it because most of his Pokémon are more marketable that way.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:04:25 No.52712292 Report

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>>52712113
Ash still can't hold a candle to game protags, kys animefag

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:08:40 No.52712309 Report

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>>52712113
FPBP
>The anime doesnt operate on the same turn base logic as the games.
This. Always amuses me when fat fucks say "I'd be a better trainer than Ash because I have a team of level 100's and I've beaten every league."

Like nah nigga, no fucking way in hell you'd be able to pull off the level of real-time analysis and strategy Ash pulls off in every fucking match.
"Pikachu, make Aegislash cut everything up, use Iron Tail to blast a chunk of wood in it's sheath to completely and utterly shut down it's ability."
>"But I'm a top-tier on Smogon and VGC"
Ash would unironically annihilate every single fucking one of us.
Now if we're going by the Origins anime logic, then yeah we'd all be fucking amazing since that was turn-based.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:11:58 No.52712323 Report

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>>52712309
>Ash would unironically annihilate every single fucking one of us.
This is the mind of anipokefags on copium, it is honestly fucking pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:16:00 No.52712341 Report

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>>52712204
>>B-but it took him so long to win a league
The League in the anime is different from the one in the games too. It functions a lot closer to the Battle Tower and a lot of the fanbase can't even handle that.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:16:53 No.52712345 Report

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>>52712323
You are fat.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:21:46 No.52712367 Report

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>>52712341
>>52712309
You guys need serious help holy fucking kek

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:23:29 No.52712376 Report

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Ash is really good, actually. His understanding and empathy for Pokemon allows him to pull off weird and impossible tech.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 10:25:23 No.52712385 Report

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>>52712367
You are still fat.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 11:10:24 No.52712587 Report

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>they fucking killed CHAD-Greninja

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 12:38:05 No.52713046 Report

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>Well done, Ash. However... it's time to test your mettle with a full 6v6 battle. Let's see if you have the inner strength to stand at the highest peak.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 12:45:13 No.52713095 Report

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>>52712089
Actually pretty good. Even most of his league losses were decent (imagine ranking among the top 16 trainers in a smogon-tier competition, that's something he achieved even in his very first journey)

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 12:49:13 No.52713113 Report

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>>52712168
The funny thing is he doesn’t actually release his pokemon as often as people think he did. Outside of Greninja (which is debatable) and Naganadel, the last time he actually released a Pokémon was lapras

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 12:55:11 No.52713148 Report

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>>52712089
As good as writers allowed him to be.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 13:01:41 No.52713185 Report

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>>52712089
He is a good trainer tbf and even his league placements aren’t too bad. Its just a shame that the black and white anime single-handedly caused permanent damage to the characters reputation which sun and moon and Journeys made it worse.

Despite XYs issues with ashs personality being on the duller side, it did showcase his competent side in battling and reigned him closer to DP Ash and not a bumbling retard that had no clue what data is in Journeys despite him being capable of using a computer in DP or someone who cant take care of himself or cheat in a test like in SM even though he learned a couple things from brock and said test was on a topic he should know and ace with his eyes closed.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 13:06:55 No.52713231 Report

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>>52712309
>You supposedely need 600 IQ to get the idea of using an insect move to cut up a psychic field
>In the pokemon anime where anything goes, including electric attacks on ground pokemon just because they are wet
It plays exactly like the Duelist Kingdom arc in Yugioh, you are a fucking midwit. All it takes is quick thinking and ingenuity. Also every single pokemon is viable so you can cope up with very elaborate ideas with a little thinking. Most autists from here could do it.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 13:11:49 No.52713263 Report

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>>52712204
Nah he was already pretty good by the 6th gym since he already had a team of OP mons then but he peaked at Orange Islands

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 13:24:35 No.52713372 Report

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>>52713263
I dunno what original season you were watching, but he only earned 4 badges legitimately. The rest were earned out of pity or "Thanks for doing X! Take this badge even though I was on the verge of annihilating your team until Team Rocket interrupted us and/or a Haunter made me laugh"

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 13:26:21 No.52713384 Report

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>>52712089
Not at all

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 13:33:00 No.52713433 Report

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>>52712089
No

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 13:41:00 No.52713504 Report

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>>52712089
The only time he wasn't was Kanto and Unova. In Kanto he more or less bullshit his way to Victory Road. In Unova he was somehow slightly more competent and stupid. In every other league he was definitely good, standouts being Sinnoh, Kalis, Alola and Galar.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 14:03:37 No.52713693 Report

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Yeah. His only obstacles were the writers themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 15:03:03 No.52714181 Report

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Sinnoh > Hoenn > Johto >>> Kalos >>>>>> Alola > Kanto > Journey's >>> Unova
Unova is still the worst for complete and total incompetence, but Journeys was the biggest disparity between skill displayed and actual success, ie he beat the strongest trainers in the world at his most "A GOOD DEFENSE IS A GOOD OFFENSE" *wins by hitting everything really hard but with gimmicks*

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 17:51:13 No.52715587 Report

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>>52713372
Would that really be Ash fault when the gym leaders that gave him the quote on quote pity badges are either really shit at their jobs or in Sabrina’s case mentally insane to run her gym. Erika’s probably the worst one since she straight up rejected Ash’s request for a gym battle over a personal grudge which is straight ip unprofessional. To be blunt the Kanto gyms in the anime is flat out the shittiest gym circuit in the world with how bad the gym leaders are at their job.

Out of all of them Koga and blane were the only competent ones and even then, their gyms are a literal Safety hazard

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 18:09:21 No.52715824 Report

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>>52712089
James was the real good trainer of the series.

Honestly, team rocket needs their own anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 18:13:15 No.52715869 Report

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>>52712113
They didn't even let Ash challenge Mustard, Leon's greater.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 18:14:55 No.52715894 Report

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>>52712089
>Now that the dust have settled
I don't think you people understand what this means. The dust is nowhere near settled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Dec 2022 18:17:31 No.52715928 Report

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>Ranked top 16 in Kanto and even then got screwed out of a win due to outside forces
>Ranked top 8 in Johto, Hoenn and Unova
>Top 4 in Sinnoh and only got screwed over by a guy with legendaries
>Runner up in Kalos
>Won Alola
>Orange Island Champion
>Conquered the Battle Frontier
Fuck that noise dude was a good trainer
>Ranke

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