>>52721954>How do you reply to this?Even more animals die when eating meat, because in order to feed the animals you raise to kill for their meat, you have to feed them crops that were grown in fields that killed mice and bugs when prepared to grow food. You carnists are so childish, you assume that vegans haven't already thought about all this. We've been thinking about this stuff our entire lives, you only think about it for the moments you want to argue with us.
If you care about the accidental deaths of animals caused from modern industrial farming of fruits, vegetables, and grains, then you should want to minimize those deaths and the way to minimize those deaths is to get rid of meat production because the pigs, chickens, and cows we as humans raise to eat, eat more grains than our entire species does. I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but seriously, try to stand back and understand that none of the little gotchas you come up with on the spot are things we haven't already thought of. Been vegan for 10 years, I've heard every shitty carnist cope a million times.