>>52758678I wouldn't call it bad after it got icicle spear, that shit hurts coming from 170 atk
>>52758786Yeah mega steelix is serviceable but at 600+ the only competition are subpar mythicals and steelix shines on the fact that you gave up an item and a megaslot for its increased bst, it's not terrible but it's just not good enough
>>52758823I forgot to add some comparison to Thyplosion sucking, Crobat was the example I gave first but vanilluxe and Gogoat a Pokémon people often joke about because of it being on a champion team are around the same bst
535 vanilluxe, 534 Thyplosion and 531 Gogoat
It's just silly how Thyplosion has even less niches than Vanilluxe and Gogoat considering both of them waste 95+ stats on an unwanted atk Stat, it's sad to think that vanilluxe could be awesome if it's speed and atk Stat changed and Gogoat changed its spatk with it spdef
If anything I'm impressed that Gogoat has a higher bst than some starters and it turned out as competent as it is without a weather setting ability with suicide lead potential as Vanilluxe
