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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:17:42 No.52881040 View View Reply Original Report

Anyone else feeling nostalgic for SWSH?

>Better open world experience in general
>More memorable rivals and gym leaders
>Better pokédex
>Better raid battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:21:28 No.52881060 Report

Quoted By: >>52881142

>>52881040
Yes Scarlet and Violet is a buggy mess not to mention how washed out everything looks. It’s makes you appreciate Gen 8 so much more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:22:03 No.52881064 Report

Quoted By: >>52881142 >>52883048 >>52883888

sv's open world seems pointless because it literally does not give any reason for the player to go off the beaten path besides, getting your ass beat by higher leveled shit
why are there no lower level mons and trainers scattered all over the open world? what is even the use of going all the way to the game's supposed harder area just to get whooped by things you can neither defeat nor catch?
seems like this crap was just designed for autists who are addicted to grinding for hours and weeks in romhacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:23:31 No.52881071 Report

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>>52881040
I'm replaying Sword right now.
Quite frankly, the gameplay feels amazingly dated compared to PLA & SV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:23:43 No.52881072 Report

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I would not say the OPEN WORLD EXPERIENCE is better. It's literally the same shit except SV/PLA lets you transverse the fields with your monster in more dynamic ways and with much better enviroment design, so their Open World is inherently superior in experience.

But I do miss alot of things from it. The presentation of battles was significanty better specially in Ranked online, the customization for trainers (and art direction in general) was better, the way you could passively search for trades and battles and shit was better, the loading time between areas and generally performance was faster.

In general I think SV is still a better game, but there is a lot that is a downgrade from Swooshie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:24:23 No.52881076 Report

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>>52881040
I'm not underage, so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:24:25 No.52881077 Report

Quoted By: >>52881142

>>52881040
I miss Dynamax
It sets up Weather and Terrain.
I dont have to waste a slot for Pelipper or Pinchurchin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:24:38 No.52881079 Report

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>>52881040
fuck i remember that anon. he was obsessed with rabbits and he'd post his screenshots constantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:25:29 No.52881080 Report

Quoted By: >>52881142 >>52881435

>>52881040
Scarlet and Violet is so bad that it will make you nostalgic for basically every other game. Just buy Legends Arceus instead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:26:09 No.52881084 Report

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Just because sv is dogshit that doesn't make human shit good
Raid battles were terrible then too. Now they're worse than getting covid in a retirement home.
Better pokedex is your opinion. I didn't like swsh designs as much as sv. I prefer the new pokemon over the gen that gave us reddit penguin, fucking charlie chaplin and applepie.
Rivals and gym leaders were bad then as they are now. Everyone's lusting over Iono and ice femboy.

And lastly, wtf do you mean by Better world experience? Routes were simple asf, and the puke inducing wild area is exactly equal to the new games open world. Sumo areas were more intricate and better looking

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:30:02 No.52881106 Report

Quoted By: >>52881117

>>52881040
No, fucking kill yourself, gen 8 will forever be the worst games in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:31:31 No.52881117 Report

Quoted By: >>52881142

>>52881106
not OP but swsh is bad and sv is worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:34:16 No.52881132 Report

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>>52881040
Haven't played any of the Switch games, so I'm glad I have never feel to nostalgic to those horrible games! Gimme my 2DS XL and my copy of HeartGold and I'm good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:35:51 No.52881142 Report

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>>52881040
>>52881060
>>52881064
>>52881077
>>52881080
>>52881117
Gigacope from the absolute worst games in the series. You swsh faggots will never live this down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:39:35 No.52881170 Report

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>>52881040
I miss the weeks leading up to its release on this board. Some insanely funny threads were created. Game sucked dick though lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:42:36 No.52881195 Report

Quoted By: >>52881292 >>52881363

>>52881040
>More memorable rivals
I loved swsh and have only played three hours of gen 9, but Nemona is 1000x better than Hop. Hop and Hau are basically the same character and they're both annoying as shit. Don't even get me started on Leon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:52:56 No.52881266 Report

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>>52881040
>>Better open world experience in general
Nigga what

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:54:23 No.52881275 Report

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>>52881040
I love SWSH but no, SV is just better in every way except the move animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:56:08 No.52881292 Report

Quoted By: >>52881390

>>52881195
Nothing about Hop and Hau are similar besides having family members who are experienced trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:57:37 No.52881313 Report

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>>52881040
No. They are genuine garbage games and the only mainline titles to date I haven't completed.
Even the girls sucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:58:21 No.52881321 Report

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>>52881040
>Nostalgic from Soulless & Shit
Fuck off Galarcuck, and fuck off Scatfags defending their shit game as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:58:41 No.52881325 Report

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PLA is the only good Switch game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:59:46 No.52881336 Report

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absolutely not
as fucked up as SV are, they're LEAGUES better than anything from gen 8

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:59:49 No.52881337 Report

Quoted By: >>52881360 >>52881986

>>52881040
>Better open world experience in general
>open world experience
You mean, soulless hallway experience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:03:08 No.52881360 Report

Quoted By: >>52881394 >>52881905

>>52881337
>It's not open world cuz you can't climb on walls!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:04:09 No.52881363 Report

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>>52881195
>DON'T GET ME STARTED ON LEON!
>Dicksucks Nemona, who is just Worse Leon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:08:26 No.52881390 Report

Quoted By: >>52881423

>>52881292
Well they both have a story arc involving losing confidence after experiencing a loss, feeling inferior to the player, and then regaining their motivation by the end of the game

Also they have the same hand waving animation that's been memed on constantly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:08:58 No.52881394 Report

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>>52881360
>Dude TRUST ME it’s an open world!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:12:28 No.52881423 Report

Quoted By: >>52881505

>>52881390
But that is just a basic set-up that is natural in Pokemon considering battling is 90% of the game. At the end of the day Hau's story is about his fear of going all in while Hop's is about his worship of his brother. And piling up on that, their base personalities are also completely different, in that Hau is a happy go lucky gentle islander while Hop is more like RBY Gary where he's "that competitive neighborhood kid"

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:14:32 No.52881435 Report

Quoted By: >>52881626

>>52881080
I got bored with S/V after almost 200 hours and decided to finally try and catch Enamorus in PLA so I can transfer her to S/V when HOME gets compatibility.

The difference in quality was staggering. PLA is just miles ahead of S/V. It's nuts. Weren't the two games developed simultaneous? How is such a drastic difference in quality like this even possible from two games developed by the same company within months of each other???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:22:46 No.52881505 Report

Quoted By: >>52881709

>>52881423
Well yeah but your specific wording was "nothing about them is similar" which isn't the case, and I think it's reasonable for someone who doesn't care as much about the story to get annoyed by the superficial similarities

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:33:42 No.52881626 Report

Quoted By: >>52881744

>>52881435
PLA started development earlier I guess? S/V's problems come down to literally everything about the game being rushed for a Christmas release date, from the Pokemon designs to the basic gameplay mechanics to quality control.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:35:24 No.52881644 Report

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>>52881040
holy shit that looks bad. if the next game makes SV look as bad as SV/PLA make SWSH look then we're in for a treat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:40:05 No.52881689 Report

Quoted By: >>52881697

>>52881040
>>Better open world experience in general
It's not an open world game so that's not true in the slightest.
>>More memorable rivals and gym leaders
I genuinely can't remember any of the characters other than the waifus everyone brings up.
>>Better pokédex
The pokedex was abysmal and introduced some of the worst pokemon of all time like those stupid mix up fossils.
>>Better raid battles
Despite Play Rough causing desyncs the Raids in SV are vastly superior to the Raids in SS simply because they aren't hideously slow like the Dynamax Raids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:40:12 No.52881690 Report

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It was better than VS in every way.
We thought the franchise had hit rock bottom with SS but it can always get worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:40:49 No.52881696 Report

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>>52881040
No matter how many times you make this exact same thread it does not change the fact that swsh are shit games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:40:51 No.52881697 Report

Quoted By: >>52881777

>>52881689
Max Raid Battles are faster than tera raids

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:42:28 No.52881709 Report

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>>52881505
That’s ridiculously stupid. You take away the story then all you get is two brown skinned trainers that like to battle. You think they are similar because your attention span is that of a bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:46:45 No.52881744 Report

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>>52881626
Makes sense. I hate GF's release midel, but it's so weird to rush S/V out like that when they delayed PLA to iron out the bugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:48:02 No.52881759 Report

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>>52881040
>Those graphics

LMAO>

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:48:22 No.52881760 Report

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>>52881040
Dragon quest on PS2 looked better than this shit and was actually fun. Get better standards for your sake please

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:48:58 No.52881767 Report

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>>52881040
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:49:58 No.52881777 Report

Quoted By: >>52881835

>>52881697
You clearly haven't done a max raid in that case because its riddled with things that slow down the raid such as player turns going one by one, the shields preventing what could have been a OHKO, the max moves in general having long animations and so on and so forth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:55:17 No.52881835 Report

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>>52881777
Trips of truth. SS confirmed worst pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:56:10 No.52881844 Report

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>>52881040
Lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 17:02:47 No.52881905 Report

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>>52881360
Dude, it's not even open world. It's the equivalent of the gen 1 safari zone except with less hallways/walls and slightly higher pokemon variety
Literally just a big empty area with nothing in it. Even SV had random caves in the overworld

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 17:14:41 No.52881986 Report

Quoted By: >>52882167

>>52881337
can somebody explain this? i never played swshit's DLC but i don't understand what you're trying to convey with this image. the way you drew the path looks like something that gives the player options as to what order the can explore the map in so what are you complaining about? "hallway" and "straight line" feel like a buzzwords at this point. i get the impression nobody on this board knows what a straight line means because that's what they call SM's routes even though there are at least several routes in the game that are objectively more complex than just straight lines

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 17:15:59 No.52881995 Report

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>Better open world experience in general
C'mon son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 17:19:33 No.52882026 Report

Quoted By: >>52883084

If I liked S/V, will I like ShSw?

How are the trainer battles in ShSw, are they better than S/V?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 17:37:26 No.52882167 Report

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>>52881986
What (true) open world game design means is what you’re free to go wherever you want even if your path of choice is going though some place what isn’t clearly meant to be chosen. (So it’s all just about broadening your illusion of choice)

In SwSh and even it’s DLC however map is very strictly gated with things like invisible walls and entirely decorative landmasses.
Base SWSH is like 90% decorative background and 5% extremely linear and flat routes and 5% extremely simple and flat wild area.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:27:03 No.52883020 Report

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>>52881040
No. I have as much memories of Galar as I have of Kalos, not much. I feel nostalgia for Hisui.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:29:23 No.52883037 Report

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>>52881040
>Anyone else feeling nostalgic for SWSH?
Nope, Music was shit (to the point that they let TOBY FOX make music) game was awful and every character except for the villains was
>I'm so happy to be here lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:31:23 No.52883048 Report

Quoted By: >>52883080

>>52881064
They should've just made the trainers scale, but left the pokemon level locked and more aggressive towards you if you're too weak for the area. This way you can go off the intended route to do the story, but exploration of the world is more difficult and unlocks passively as you progress you pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:35:24 No.52883080 Report

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>>52883048
Trainers should scale, but only if they're below where the player is at that point. So you can't cheese the game by doing the hard leaders first, but aren't screwed if you miss some weaker leaders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:36:49 No.52883084 Report

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>>52882026
Yes, if you have no standards you will like SwSh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:43:52 No.52883150 Report

Quoted By: >>52883236

>>52881040
Fuck no lmao, the only thing you could argue on are the raid battles not being as buggy
if anything I feel nostalgic towards Arceus's slightly more bearable graphisms and adventure feel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:52:23 No.52883236 Report

Quoted By: >>52883518

>>52883150
And music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDs-8W-q5TQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 19:54:19 No.52883257 Report

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swsh had the best art direction
too bad it seems we will never get the cel shaded vibrant look again
sv just doesnt feel like pokemon to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:24:33 No.52883518 Report

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>>52883236
I really like the BOTW vibe from the soundtrack, it really gives the game a nice lonely feel when you're out adventuring. I really wish they'll do another legends game, they just need to not fuck up fighting this time, add a few more trainers (mostly in cities to keep the world its wild theme) and give Pokémon more interactions between you, each others and the environment. The maps would benefit from being a little bigger too, only the first one felt big enough to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:30:29 No.52883568 Report

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>>52881040
>Better open world experience in general
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:13:32 No.52883888 Report

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>>52881064
Have you tried not being bad at a game for kids?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:26:39 No.52883974 Report

Quoted By: >>52884098 >>52885431

>>52881040
Don't try to argue with fate, anon. SwSh's shittiness had been decided before its release, it never had a chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:38:57 No.52884064 Report

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>>52881040
No, I feel nostalgic for RSE

>secrets around every corner, moreso than the """"""""""""open""""""""""""" worlds to be
>Memorable rivals, gym leaders, and the best champ, cynthiafags need not reply
>top 3 overall dex
>contests, bases, battle frontier, oh my!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:43:13 No.52884098 Report

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>>52883974
Digits-Sama, I kneel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:45:35 No.52884118 Report

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>>52881040
SWSH is unironically boring as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 00:24:46 No.52885431 Report

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>>52883974
I'm glad it's over and we can only go up.

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