>>52949917And even then, Ludicolo also outclasses it as a Swimmer no? Fake Out+Electric neutrality+Grass moves
But the thing is, these hyper niche situations are the only place in any mainline Pokemon game where Luvdisc even has a chance of actually finding any sort of relevance
Would you believe that in-game, Luvdisc sucks even HARDER? You always either get it extremely late or get it around the same time you get Surf, and in both cases it's already outclassed by something you either have or something you can get on that same route
Even if you were to shove it onto the first route of any given game, it's so fucking bad that even the Route 1 shitmons would outclass it. In Hoenn, you'd already be better off with Wingull/Lotad/Marill before Roxanne for example
