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Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 02:03:38 No.53033709 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>53033715 >>53033737 >>53034529 >>53034542 >>53036112 >>53043110

The one move that changed pokemon FOREVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 02:05:01 No.53033715 Report

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>>53033709
Based stealth rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 02:06:52 No.53033724 Report

Quoted By: >>53033751 >>53033769 >>53033857 >>53034444 >>53034518 >>53034890 >>53038284 >>53043154

>spikes are okay
>toxic spikes are fine
>sticky web is fine
>rock type hazards ? NOOOOOO
Even with heavy duty boots, people still bitch. What gives?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 02:09:16 No.53033737 Report

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>>53033709
>Stealth rock
>Defog
>U-turn
>Sucker Punch
DPP was so based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 02:11:34 No.53033751 Report

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>>53033724
No types are immune to SR even levitate mons take some damages for no real reason
That's why
If Copperrajah kept his "steel rocks" it will probably be the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 02:13:44 No.53033769 Report

Quoted By: >>53035998

>>53033724
Charizard fans are crybabies, what else is new

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 02:23:12 No.53033857 Report

Quoted By: >>53034644 >>53038339

>>53033724
No immunities unless you have magic guard and it scales with weakness. Even if you figure every mon in the other side is neutral to it on average and your opponent only has to rotate through their team once, it's trading one turn to deal 5/8 of the team's HP. If they have something like 3 resistances, a weakness, and 2 neutral, it's (1/4)+(2/8)+(3/16), which is 11/16. It's a move that really punishes types weak to it in the teambuilder and a team that resists it (heavy on fighting, ground, and steel) is going to get fucked up by Water moves or Earthquake. There are many layers to this, but it is by design going to be centralizing and demand answers in a way no move is besides MAYBE Knock Off or Earthquake

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Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 03:38:59 No.53034387 Report

Quoted By: >>53035232 >>53041446

best move and best type. birdfuckers literally seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 03:46:32 No.53034444 Report

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>>53033724
>only one layer needed for the full effect, just fire and forget
>hits everything unlike the spikes variants which only hit grounded mons
>completely fucks survivability of anything weak to Rock even with just that one layer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 03:57:44 No.53034518 Report

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>>53033724
Stealth Rocks do too much damage in an unbalanced way and are distributed too widely.
If there were SR for other types, to balance things off, that'd be one thing. But as is, Fire, Ice, Bug, Flying types all get screwed over without recourse. And if you share two of those types, you're just fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 03:58:52 No.53034529 Report

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>>53033709
I bet GF forever regrets making this anti-Charitard move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:00:37 No.53034542 Report

Quoted By: >>53034558 >>53034579 >>53036062 >>53038339

>>53033709
>rocks should only be useable by Rock types
>Rock type mons should be immune if not healed upon entry by rocks
There. Fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:03:18 No.53034558 Report

Quoted By: >>53035128

>>53034542
>doesn't affect mons with Levitate
>doesn't affect Flying-type mons unless they are grounded
Fixed further.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:07:04 No.53034579 Report

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>>53034518
>>53034542
Also make just make it so that grounded Pokemon take less damage from Stealth since Flying types are the reason stealth rock is necessary in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:14:44 No.53034644 Report

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>>53033857
in fairness this is the level of math i would expect from a stealth rocks hater

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:23:56 No.53034701 Report

Quoted By: >>53034891 >>53035847 >>53035978 >>53036470 >>53040238

what is this move called again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:38:21 No.53034776 Report

Quoted By: >>53034886 >>53035308

I think Stealth Rock is funny as is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:56:20 No.53034886 Report

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>>53034776
I think the funniest thing stealth rock has ever done is that it existed in LGPE where it was impossible to get rid of them, since there wasn't any rapid spin or defog or even items to nullify them like leftovers. It was funny seeing the meta deal with that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:57:50 No.53034890 Report

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>>53033724
Flying fags are just eternally assblasted that their free skies are gone forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 04:57:52 No.53034891 Report

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>>53034701
Sneaky Stones

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 05:00:25 No.53034907 Report

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The stones that ruined it all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 05:43:27 No.53035128 Report

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>>53034558
The entire point of rocks is to counter flying types you Moth/Zard worshipping tard. Having rock types be immune to them would work more than well enough. If nothing else it will at least create a niche for Archeops and Aerodactyl

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 06:09:02 No.53035232 Report

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>>53034387
LMAO CHARIZARD A BIRD
ha charidard gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 06:23:10 No.53035308 Report

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>>53034776
That's pretty ironic coming from a person who likes such a braindead busted move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 09:00:57 No.53035847 Report

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>>53034701
Clandestine Cobbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 09:41:29 No.53035978 Report

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>>53034701
Invisible Igneous

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 09:47:00 No.53035998 Report

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>>53033769
Its stall babies crying. Charizard is not viable this gen. Play the game retard.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 10:00:19 No.53036062 Report

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>>53034542
>Rock type mons should be immune if not healed upon entry by rocks
Would be nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 10:06:44 No.53036112 Report

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>>53033709
Make Pokémon over a certain weight crush the pebbles on entry. There, fixed it.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 10:42:36 No.53036470 Report

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>>53034701

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 12:55:27 No.53037368 Report

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>switching in a rock/stell/ground type into stealth rocks removes them from the field
there, i saved pokemon. youre welcome

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 13:39:53 No.53037624 Report

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>>53033737
Defog didn't do shit in DPP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 15:29:00 No.53038229 Report

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>>53034529
They obviously don't since they keep it in every game (with it being the only entry hazard in LGPE and no way to remove them), give it to a large number of pokemon, and it was not one of the moves they arbitrarily chose to cut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 15:37:01 No.53038284 Report

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>>53033724
Sticky web isn't fine in a vacuum
It's just stuck on mons just shit enough for it to be fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 15:42:10 No.53038339 Report

Quoted By: >>53041506

>>53034518
>>53033857
They have to bee good and everywhere because nobody in the official competitive format uses them. This is why Toxic Spikes are an ability now and they've tested attacking moves laying similar moves last generation. They're testing the waters before going all in.

>>53034542
>>53035128
Even as a doublesfag, I'd like to see this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 15:47:41 No.53038388 Report

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>>53036470
you should add eroding emeralds to that list

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:19:56 No.53040238 Report

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>>53034701
Spooky pebbles

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Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:27:27 No.53041446 Report

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>>53034387
Stealth Rock put actual Rock types out of a job.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:36:16 No.53041506 Report

Quoted By: >>53043485

>>53038339
>They're testing the waters before going all in.
>steel spikes
They better fucking not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 00:38:20 No.53043110 Report

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>>53033709
based Charizard destroyer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 00:42:49 No.53043137 Report

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can't wait for fire mines hazard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 00:45:56 No.53043154 Report

Quoted By: >>53043462

>>53033724
It punishes different pokemon unfairly, losing a quarter hp on switch in is outrageous no matter how you picture it. If its damage was halved it would still be annoying but not busted.

But stealth rock is needed it punishes heavy reliance on switching. Without it stall would be everywhere!...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 01:04:45 No.53043276 Report

Quoted By: >>53043462

Last Respects is going to open the door to banning rocks.
I can't wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 01:27:02 No.53043462 Report

Quoted By: >>53043505

>>53043154
Only because Smogon is banning hyper offense. This meta is LITERALLY Hyper Offense and they're trying to rein it in

>>53043276
They'll never ban rocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 01:29:00 No.53043485 Report

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>>53041506
Oh it is COMING.
Auto Spikes on abilities and moves
Rocks off attacks
New entry hazards from abilities and moves

The day is approaching

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 01:31:24 No.53043505 Report

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>>53043462
>NOOOOOO
>HOW DARE SMOGON BAN THE FISH WITH HIGHER EFFECTIVE SPECIAL ATTACK THAN MEGA MEWTWO Y?!?!
>STALL! STALL! STALL!
Cope

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