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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:24:32 No.53048459 View View Reply Original Report

Why dont the Pokemon games have vioce acting?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:27:23 No.53048472 Report

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>>53048459
The directors would literally explode hearing non-japanese voices in the translated games

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:29:49 No.53048481 Report

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>>53048459
haha, I don't really know...

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:31:25 No.53048489 Report

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A guy asked Ohmori and Masuda just that in the SwSh media cycle. Ohmori said it's because it would be too hard to do quality control on the voice acting across all releases, along with production itself being harder if all dialogue needs to be voice acted.
Masuda then said that he personally doesn't like voice acting in games because it annoys him if a character's voice is different than how he imagines it.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:32:51 No.53048499 Report

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>>53048459
No financial or creative incentive. "You'll buy it anyways" is pretty much a company motto at this point, why splurge or put in the extra effort when the "core mainline pokemon game" tag is enough to sell 15+ million?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:33:59 No.53048512 Report

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>>53048489
>laziness and autism
If true, can't say I expected less

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:34:20 No.53048516 Report

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>>53048459
If anything they should do JP voice acting and JP only

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:34:45 No.53048520 Report

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>>53048489
>doesn't like voice acting in games because it annoys him if a character's voice is different than how he imagines it
pretty keyed opinion

>>53048499
also this
and ALSO because the series was originally for low powered handhelds until recently
>in before switch is a low powered handheld

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:38:43 No.53048545 Report

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>>53048512
You can check yourself if you want to, it was actualy a fairly wide "deep look into Gamefreak's brain" interview by... GameInformer I think was it? Something with Game in the name.
IMO they should just do what Nintendo does on most of their games and make characters do grunts/laughs/sounds and shit. It's charming and doesn't need to fit the written dialogue so it's also easy.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:40:06 No.53048554 Report

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>>53048459
voice acting in JRPGs is fucking dogshit 99% of the time

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:43:06 No.53048576 Report

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>>53048459
Honestly, I don't trust TPCI & GF to let us choose text and voice languages seperately so it's probably for the best.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 17:58:32 No.53048711 Report

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>>53048459
It's pretty obvious it's just time concerns and rushed development. You can tell by the way the cutscenes are shot and directed that they were made with voice acting in mind. It's jarring as fuck to see the characters emote and even move their mouths accurately and hear nothing .

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 18:32:42 No.53049027 Report

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>>53048711
Source: my ass.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 18:45:54 No.53049144 Report

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>>53048489
Masuda is based for once. I have a lot of fun imagining how the characters would sound.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 18:50:24 No.53049183 Report

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>>53048554
Mandatory (you) as this is a true statement and VAfags will ignore it as usual

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 18:52:28 No.53049194 Report

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>>53048459
Laziness, incompetence, the usual

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 19:02:48 No.53049279 Report

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>>53048489
These are literally the best responses. I hate hearing shitty English voice acting that sounds nothing like what I picture the characters having. Thank god for these two, I never want to hear VA work in Pokemon. Shitty fake job.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 19:07:59 No.53049325 Report

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Unless voice acting is extremely, extremely high quality I'd rather not have it at all.

I was playing Great Ace Attorney and the voice acting in the cutscenes actually made the game worse for me because of how fucking cringey some of the lines sounded. The only game I played in the past 5 years that had voice acting I liked was FE3H.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 19:18:06 No.53049410 Report

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Voice acting in anything that isn't natively English is going to be shit 90% of the time because it's treated like how it is: a frivolous addition. It's not something anything needs to succeed and it's not taken seriously by anybody who actually makes things. The entry barrier is so low the people in the industry have to gatekeep the living shit out of the "profession" because for every voice actor demanding a better wage you have ten thousand blue haired nerdy fatasses who will do it for even cheaper just to be involved with their favorite series without having to do any actual work, and when studios only care about cutting costs that's who they're going to hire if they really feel pressured to add it since hiring real actors is too expensive.
Just have the devs voice act, it's cheaper and more memorable to hear a programmer stumble through some lines than some "career VA" who can only sound like a 12 year old's impression of Goku.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 19:21:48 No.53049441 Report

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The biggest problem with VA will be the English version will be filled with trannies to appease the yanks because they don't understand nuance.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 19:28:59 No.53049498 Report

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>>53049325
>The only game I played in the past 5 years that had voice acting I liked was FE3H.
They did nail a lot of the characters in that one, Hilda, Flayn, Seteth and Hubert in particular surprised me of how well they were done
I honestly don't mind it if jrpgs are voice acted, you are supposed to pay attention to the screen so reading isn't much of an issue

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 19:33:33 No.53049535 Report

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>>53048554
It's dogshit only at USA dub, just like all USA dubs. The British dub at Xenoblade Chronicles is great.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 19:34:39 No.53049550 Report

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>>53048489
At the very least, they can just have the characters do soundbytes and use the same voices across all translations. Like in a lot of older Zelda games, when someone spoke and you would hear, "Hwooah?" or "Ha ha ha!" or "Hrrrmm...".

No voice acting but OBVIOUSLY HAVING LIP SYNCING is as fucking bad as the PS1 era of gaming where there was voice acting, but all the characters mouths were closed.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 19:36:38 No.53049575 Report

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>>53049550
I would prefer Japanese VA with English subs, I'm surprised at how many games I just use the Japanese audio in retrospective

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:28:28 No.53050038 Report

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There's literally no reason a player should be agaisnt voice acting in these games, especially when they're going out of their way to create atmospheres that demand voice acting.
Even if you're deathly allergic to English voices, miscasted voices, or whatever, a good dev would include decent volume options in the game.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:38:40 No.53050123 Report

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>>53048459
Thinking objectively, it's probably because they don't outdo the anime at casting choice.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:40:04 No.53050135 Report

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>>53049550
>OBVIOUSLY HAVING LIP SYNCING is as fucking bad as the PS1 era of gaming where there was voice acting, but all the characters mouths were closed.

ADX has literally made middleware to mitigate lip-syncing issues as far back as the PS2 era.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:40:31 No.53050138 Report

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>>53050038
> There's literally no reason a player should be agaisnt voice acting in these games
Why would I want the devs to waste time and money implementing a feature I won’t use?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:41:09 No.53050144 Report

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>>53050135
*CRI, not ADX

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:42:12 No.53050151 Report

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>>53048489
Based Masuda

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:43:45 No.53050157 Report

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>>53048554
>what is voice volume
>what do you mean every other AAA game got it today

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:44:54 No.53050165 Report

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>>53050135
>there was voice acting, but all the characters mouths were closed
name 5 games other than MGS1 where this happens

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:47:12 No.53050188 Report

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>>53048489
Then the MC in PLA has voice like Link for no reason. I hate these lying fuckers. I hate Masuda the most because he always have some fucking retarded anwers

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:48:47 No.53050206 Report

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>>53048459
Voice actors cost money and you'll still buy it anyway even if there isn't any voice acting.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:53:11 No.53050251 Report

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>>53050188
PLA doesn't have voice acting though. It's literally just very limited moments of the MC grunting for gameplay purposes. By that logic SwSh has voice acting because it has humans chanting during stadium battles.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 20:56:49 No.53050281 Report

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>>53050165
You should reply to to the person who said that, not the one whose quoting it.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 21:48:35 No.53050753 Report

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>>53048459
Wait for the characters to be added to Masters then you can imagine their voices when you read their dialogue

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 21:49:57 No.53050771 Report

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>>53048489
Both are correct.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 21:59:35 No.53050869 Report

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>>53050281
good idea

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 22:09:08 No.53050959 Report

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>>53048459
all i want is voice acting or something like splatoon voices if they're gonna pretend like they're singing

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 22:10:03 No.53050969 Report

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>>53048459
wtf she actually says that?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 22:10:17 No.53050974 Report

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Because it would be the same dogshit voice actors that every anime game gets in the west and with no option to choose japanese voices

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 22:11:07 No.53050987 Report

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People forget that JA va demand CEO tier wages while Western VA are very uptight and selfish with their request. VA is a money pitfall.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 22:12:11 No.53050995 Report

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>>53050969
Yup

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 22:12:57 No.53051001 Report

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>>53048489
Ohmori and Masuda are based in these regards. Who the fuck want to keep hearing a fucking brit woman as a female VA again?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 22:13:32 No.53051004 Report

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>>53048459
1. It's utterly pointless and would add anything other than woefully poor performances. Especially on the western side of things.
2. It's GF. Just imagine how much shit they'd have to cut to fit that in.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 22:14:00 No.53051012 Report

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>>53050969

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 02:09:17 No.53053061 Report

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Only retards are asking for every text box voice acted, and only retards aren't asking for the cutscenes voice acted. They're so awkward being silent.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 02:13:58 No.53053118 Report

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>>53051012

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 03:23:38 No.53053764 Report

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>>53051004
I mean fair, I'm sure we'd end up losing another quarter of the dex or something because smarr indie companyuru

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 04:22:39 No.53054194 Report

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>>53051012
If there were more champions, would that change our relationship?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 04:31:10 No.53054231 Report

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Unrelated question but are the only post game activities raids and the school tournament?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 05:05:08 No.53054443 Report

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>>53054231
>He didn’t unlock the NTR graphic novel at the end

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 05:09:45 No.53054478 Report

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>>53054194
I mean, it's implied there are more champions, there just haven't been any new ones recently. So Nemona's probably wiped all the other champions, too.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:09:13 No.53055815 Report

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>>53050753
Masters did good until Dawn now has a lisp.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 11:08:13 No.53056058 Report

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Because fuck you. Of all things they should spend anything on it's not voice acting. Voice acting in Breath of the Wild is a net negative. And if you've ever watched TPCi dubbed anime it's also a net negative. It's total fucking dogshit. Try playing Pokémon Masters with the dub it's fucking horrible. Not having voice acting is the correct decision.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 13:25:47 No.53056582 Report

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>>53048489
>quality control
As if they've been doing any of that the past few years.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 13:28:59 No.53056595 Report

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>>53048489
One of the only times that I can say “Based Masuda”, pokémon never had voice acting other than some stafium announcers and it would just sound pretty weird if there was voice acting

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 14:19:20 No.53056799 Report

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>>53048489
What a fucking autist

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 14:22:56 No.53056827 Report

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All the fandubs of Nemona disappoint me because they're all so plain and don't have a hint of Spanglish. That's fine for the Pokemon anime but Masters has tempered my standards of premium Pokemon voice acting.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 14:23:20 No.53056828 Report

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>Yandere hyper competent class student council president
Pokemon is turning into a romcom

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 14:26:36 No.53056839 Report

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>>53048459
Because they would get shit voice actors. Look at Masters, 90% of the voices suck and are annoying.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 14:43:38 No.53056906 Report

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>If anything they should do JP voice acting and JP only.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 14:52:09 No.53056944 Report

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>>53056839
I hope Roxie's in your 10%

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 14:53:45 No.53056953 Report

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>>53054194
>>53054478
Geeta literally tells the MC Nemona held back in her champion's assessment vs Geeta and that she was so excited the MC came along, as there was no-one on her level and you had the best potential to reach it.
You two are the Paldean power couple - the two strongest trainers in the entire region.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 14:57:58 No.53056972 Report

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i think is becaus pokmon is toodler series and the stories are not that heavy or serious like other jrpg

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 15:01:35 No.53056988 Report

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I'm pretty sure they'd somehow find a way to make the game more glitch and laggy with the voices

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 15:13:30 No.53057061 Report

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>>53056972
SV and Sun/Moon had some heavy themes involving parents.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 17:39:47 No.53057975 Report

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>>53054443
God I unironically wish. I want to cuck Nemona so bad by choosing Arven over her.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 17:44:14 No.53058003 Report

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>>53048459
Because they've got other shit they need to fix first
The fact that this even became a point of interest among the fanbase just shows how not even you idiots have your fucking priorities straight, so how the fuck do you expect Game Freak to

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 17:49:00 No.53058027 Report

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Pokemon should have Star Fox/Banjo Kazooie style voice acting.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 17:51:43 No.53058045 Report

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>>53056839
Pokken is the big one. Nia is fucking terrible in English. Fucking Atlus have to localize shoe string budget games and get far better VA's.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 18:04:29 No.53058116 Report

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>>53058027
>Final boss villain as world becomes clouded and dark
>BUH BUH BUH BUH BUH

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 18:14:38 No.53058161 Report

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>>53048489
>hard to do quality
are they genuinely afraid of another zelda CD-I?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 18:18:45 No.53058191 Report

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>>53051012
I hate this. Why even have dialog options.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 18:18:50 No.53058193 Report

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>>53048459
>TPCi voice acting
Please no, they already ruined the ashnime dub

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 18:18:59 No.53058194 Report

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>>53058161
no they've just played other video games

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 18:22:25 No.53058211 Report

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>>53048459
Gamefreak is cheap. I'd only expect them to add voices once text to speech AIs get advanced enough to do convincing emotions with minimal effort

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 18:24:09 No.53058223 Report

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>>53048489
Based Masuda (!?!?)

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 20:11:39 No.53058882 Report

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>>53048459
as an esl, i'd be fine with voice acting. english gets the low effort trash, not the other relevant languages
but we're talking pokémon, so tpci's filthy hands would be all over the thing... same bottom tier as the anime.
so let's pass on that

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 22:27:45 No.53059950 Report

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>>53048459
The FE cast was busy.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 22:29:29 No.53059963 Report

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>>53048489
>because it annoys him if a character's voice is different than how he imagines it.
Unironically based opinion. He knows he can't have full creative control over localization since that's TPC's job, so it's inevitable that out of the many languages Pokemon officially supports, one of them will have a voice that doesn't suit his personal beliefs.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 23:21:12 No.53060319 Report

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>>53058191
It's kind of a meme/running gag to do this thing in JRPGs ever since Dragon Quest did it
They subvert it in some of the Paper Mario games where giving the wrong answer just instantly gives you a game over

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Anonymous Sun 22 Jan 2023 23:27:10 No.53060347 Report

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The games are buggy shit they should probably work on that first before adding fluff

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