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Lets settle this once and for all, Crystal Clear or Polished Crystal?

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 17:30:45 No.53181844 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>53182142 >>53182174 >>53182178 >>53182366 >>53182368 >>53182591 >>53183693 >>53186395 >>53186398

Crystal Clear has:
>character customization
>more starters to choose from
>open world, you can start in any town
>level scaling
>pokemon pallete customization
>better pokedex interface
>following pokemon
>a worse elite 4
Polished Crystal has:
>cross gen evos
>new moves
>abilities
>fairy type
>natures
>a lot of battle mechanics improved
>unlimited tms
>new in game events

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 17:58:17 No.53181947 Report

Quoted By: >>53182157

for me it's SHOCKSLAYER PRESENTS crystal clear VISIT FROM SHOCKSLAYER.COM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:12:44 No.53182016 Report

Quoted By: >>53182157

polished crystal is made by a tranny so CC wins by default

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:31:14 No.53182095 Report

Quoted By: >>53182157

they're both made by narcissists

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:44:27 No.53182142 Report

Quoted By: >>53182157 >>53182162 >>53182348 >>53183210

>>53181844
idk, i want a open source pokemon engine to have what they have without having to choose or be put limitation on front

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:48:03 No.53182157 Report

Quoted By: >>53182180

>>53181947
>>53182016
>>53182095
>>53182142
SQUEETZ finnish pokemon clover battle channel POCLO.NET

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:48:48 No.53182162 Report

Quoted By: >>53182348 >>53182371

>>53182142
yeah, i really wished they were fused somehow so you could at the very least use the new mons in crystal clear

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:51:38 No.53182174 Report

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>>53181844
Perfect Crystal is way better than both

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:52:51 No.53182178 Report

Quoted By: >>53182782

>>53181844
On the one hand, Crystal Clear completely removes what little story a Pokemon game has and just makes the whole adventure kind of a slog since nothing is going to happen except working your way to the next gym. Then you have to fight off an inserted E4.
On the other hand, Polished Crystal gets rid of several of my bois so that it can shove in a bunch of gen IV mons while leaving in several other bad ones.
In short I hate them both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:53:02 No.53182180 Report

Quoted By: >>53182194 >>53182809 >>53183070

>>53182157
Obsessed, go get bodied by the "slowbro with perfect coverage"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 18:55:59 No.53182194 Report

Quoted By: >>53182804

>>53182180
kys cloverTRANNOID
Your shitty hack will never be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:26:03 No.53182348 Report

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>>53182142
>>53182162
and not fucking pokemon ASSentials either

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:27:03 No.53182357 Report

Quoted By: >>53182448

also what the fuck happened to bitbuilt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:28:20 No.53182366 Report

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>>53181844
fool's gold

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:29:08 No.53182368 Report

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>>53181844
Neither

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:29:17 No.53182370 Report

Quoted By: >>53182376

Polished, because it's just cool. I played Crystal Clear and the typical /vp/ grievances didn't bother me. What bothered me was how aimless the game feels. It's a novel idea, but it's clearly just an experiment. It accomplishes what it set out to do, but that's all. Polished aggravates me because it uses that buzzword (more polish!!!) in its title, and even though it forms a nice pun, it's still irritating to think someone somewhere thought Crystal needed these additions to be "improved". With that being said, I appreciate every addition to Polished I can recall. I enjoy the new area in Ecruteak City, adding in Lyra (I think she takes the last starter too) and the way trade evolutions are now stat based. It's all pretty fucking cool, and because these are just additions to a pre-existing game that doesn't just set you down and tell you to do whatever, it feels way more immersive than Crystal Clear, which ironically is supposed to be your self-insert simulator. There's just nothing going ON in Crystal Clear, so the Open World shit means nothing.

If the CC dev actually had a story that changed based on where you began, now that would be ridiculously impressive, but that sounds hard as balls and very time-consuming, so I don't blame him for not doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:29:30 No.53182371 Report

Quoted By: >>53182804

>>53182162
The max number of mons are hardcoded in the games because they are 8 bit (max 2^7= 256, cristal had 253). They literally added as many as they could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:30:01 No.53182376 Report

Quoted By: >>53182381

>>53182370
still sticking with vyglass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:30:48 No.53182381 Report

Quoted By: >>53182386

>>53182376
the fuck does vyglass have to do with my post

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:31:08 No.53182386 Report

Quoted By: >>53182401

>>53182381
play it, you will see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:33:15 No.53182401 Report

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>>53182386
Nah, I don't feel like starting Clover over. Windows reset deleted my save.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:39:33 No.53182448 Report

Quoted By: >>53182464 >>53182564 >>53186389

>>53182357
So allegedly, bitbuilt was a console modding forum and were the ones who made the game.
s*ockslayer fucking stole it and plastered his name all over
bitbuilt then got memory hole'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:41:33 No.53182464 Report

Quoted By: >>53182809

>>53182448
At least is not like clover devs who steals eveything and pretending to be a "time capsule"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:56:39 No.53182564 Report

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>>53182448
https://web.archive.org/web/20180222003512/https://bitbuilt.net/2017/12/21/bitbuilt-presents-crystal-clear/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 19:59:38 No.53182591 Report

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>>53181844
Funny this thread showed up, I just finished back-to-back playthroughs of both last weekend. CC isn't bad but it's main draw is the "starting from almost anywhere" and no borders between Gyms, so you can fight them in any order and that's about it. The Pokédex interface is leagues better and genuinely useful when needing to quickly check something (eg. egg groups). It's great if you want to do a mono-type run or something as you can easily get anywhere to build a team.

Polished Crystal though is just a modernized version of Crystal. But the changes the creator did make are nice and don't feel out of places. My main complaints are shit like the "Hidden Grottos" - features that are only really half-introduced. I believe there's only four in the game, and they're all in Johto, so it very much feels like something the creator was like "hey this will be cool" then forgot about after adding some. Box management though is a lot better in Polished Crystal, and I don't mind the Pokémon distribution much, though it's a shame some had to be removed due to space.

It's tough to compare them as a whole though because they're both aiming for something very different. CC is just aiming to be an open world version of Crystal, but Polished Crystal is aiming to be more in-line with modern Pokémon games (battle mechanics, physical/special split, natures, etc)

I think if someone was a big fan of vanilla gen2 I'd recommend Polished Crystal, but if they were a fan of older JRPGs I'd recommend CC.

I wonder if either of them is ever going to receive a future update

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 20:34:59 No.53182782 Report

Quoted By: >>53183306

>>53182178
I hate stories in games. If I'm playing the game its because I want to beat it already. I don't need to be incentivized to do so with whatever plot you're forcing me to sit through. I read books on my own time. Let me play the game instead for once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 20:38:44 No.53182804 Report

Quoted By: >>53183178

>>53182194
pokemon essentials is such a shit thing and all the games made with it feel like they are made AND held together by tape.
>>53182371
then we REALLY need a new engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 20:39:18 No.53182809 Report

Quoted By: >>53183070

>>53182464
See >>53182180

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 21:03:46 No.53182956 Report

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This is almost completely unrelated, but is pokemon coral worth playing? it has a lot of features i like, but it being unfinished turns me off a bit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 21:20:48 No.53183070 Report

Quoted By: >>53185453

>>53182809
>>53182180
Uronically rent free, Sjwhale is better than le dank skinned NPCs and le self insert e4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 21:36:38 No.53183178 Report

Quoted By: >>53183324

>>53182804
There are some mods with 9 bit memory, but they probably are not compatible with the original games and stadium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 21:42:25 No.53183210 Report

Quoted By: >>53184185 >>53184283

>>53182142
I'm working on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 21:57:02 No.53183306 Report

Quoted By: >>53183447

>>53182782
hello jason

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:00:24 No.53183324 Report

Quoted By: >>53183689

>>53183178
>but they probably are not compatible with the original games and stadium
there’s only one person who cares about this and his name’s on the title screen twice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:18:40 No.53183447 Report

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>>53183306
?
What the fuck are you talking about?

Kostas Gangstar

Kostas Gangstar Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:39:46 No.53183531 Report

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OG Crystal because your fake games have fake Pokemon and are full of bugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:48:51 No.53183563 Report

Quoted By: >>53183571 >>53183613

The answer is quarantine crystal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:50:03 No.53183571 Report

Quoted By: >>53183613

>>53183563
the sole dev trooned out and had to leave the project because of the meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 22:58:52 No.53183613 Report

Quoted By:

>>53183563
>>53183571
That's explain tentaquil from quarantine clover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 23:12:26 No.53183689 Report

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>>53183324
But it's not like the gbc emulator will accept 9 bit memory anyway, it would probably need to be windows/linux/android native at that point.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 23:13:41 No.53183693 Report

Quoted By: >>53183762 >>53183797 >>53186618

>>53181844
Why not SourCrystal?

>Removes nothing
>Adds features
>Keeps the gen2 feeling
>New pokemon sprites
>Updated movepools
>Almost all pokemon available
>Restores Kanto to original size
>More Trainers
>Instant Apri-balls
>Functioning Safari Zone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 23:29:58 No.53183762 Report

Quoted By: >>53183795

>>53183693
>>Almost all pokemon available
Who's missing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 23:37:25 No.53183795 Report

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>>53183762
iirc, the author said it was just omanyte kabuto and the kanto starters, but he said he was going to add them in an update.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Feb 2023 23:37:38 No.53183797 Report

Quoted By: >>53183989

>>53183693
No following pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 00:10:10 No.53183989 Report

Quoted By:

>>53183797
faggot feature

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 00:53:19 No.53184185 Report

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>>53183210
Godspeed anon. we are counting on you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 01:25:35 No.53184283 Report

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>>53183210
GO WORK ON IT

DO YOU REALIZE-DO YOU REALIZE if Nintendo finds out about our fan project, they could send a cease and desist and we'd lose our disassembly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 03:17:08 No.53184708 Report

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this but perfect crystal

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Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 03:54:35 No.53184882 Report

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Polished Crystal
Wait for the 3.0 Update

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 06:17:53 No.53185418 Report

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everyone be like "crystal clear this" and "polished crystal that" and "crystal crystal blah blah"
bitch play some fucking Fool's Gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 06:26:23 No.53185453 Report

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>>53183070
What's wrong with dark-skinned NPCs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 06:31:23 No.53185477 Report

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Crystal Clear also has:
Fully-coded nuzlocke mode
That glorious pokedex
Follower pokemon for everything that exists, even all Unown forms.
I feel like if they dropped the "open world" and stuck to making it a regular playthrough with customization elements, it could probably be amazing.
Also remove the self-insert E4. They stick like a sore thumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 12:09:20 No.53186377 Report

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settling

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 12:14:50 No.53186389 Report

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>>53182448
Bitbuilt IS Shockslayer dumbass

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Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 12:17:27 No.53186395 Report

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>>53181844
>Crystal Clear
ROM hack creators need to put their gay ass IRC friends into everything don't they

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Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 12:19:19 No.53186398 Report

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>>53181844
Polished Crystal removed some of the original game's Pokemon to make way for more Eeveeshit therefore it's the worse one overall

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Feb 2023 13:33:53 No.53186618 Report

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>>53183693
>>Removes nothing
looks like it removes HMs

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