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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:00:24 No.53352704 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>53352716 >>53352750 >>53352753 >>53353060 >>53354592 >>53355131 >>53356565

Why is it so bad? I just wasted like two hours training it up and evolving it on to have it deal 20 damage on a special effective move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:01:49 No.53352712 Report

Quoted By: >>53352760

It lost toxic and walls are becoming shit now. You're better off using Flareon at least it has moves now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:02:16 No.53352716 Report

Quoted By: >>53352760

>>53352704

umbreon is a wall, not an attacker.

give it foul play or something

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:05:12 No.53352736 Report

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Bros...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:08:07 No.53352750 Report

Quoted By: >>53352760

>>53352704
It's great support. Can throw up light screen and reflect. It can also use screech and helping hand. Pretty useful to have around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:08:34 No.53352753 Report

Quoted By: >>53352760

>>53352704
It lost both Payback and Toxic because GF wants it to be a special attacksr for some reason.
Healing moves like Moonlight alsp got nerfed amd GF introduced more hyperoffensive powercreep.

Right now it'd need Cosmic Power/Payback/Bodypress to be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:10:41 No.53352760 Report

Quoted By: >>53352846 >>53354588 >>53354761 >>53355005 >>53355144

>>53352712
>>53352716
>>53352750
>>53352753
I'm just playing through black 2 and needed a dark type. I dont need to set up anything or do crazy combos I only need something that can fuck shit up and Umbreon isnt my answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:24:27 No.53352846 Report

Quoted By: >>53354546 >>53354754

>>53352760
>black 2
Curse+Payback
It hits like a truck.
Moonlight to heal off injuries.
Replace toxic with protect if you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 04:56:41 No.53353060 Report

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>>53352704
It was never an attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 11:57:31 No.53354546 Report

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>>53352846
This, but swap Curse and Payback for Swagger and Foul Play.
If I'm misremembering and that can't be done in BW2... My bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 12:10:13 No.53354588 Report

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>>53352760
>i don't need setup or crazy combos i need something that can fuck shit up
>that's why i picked a mon with 65/60 offenses
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 12:11:16 No.53354592 Report

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>>53352704
Best support mon to have on raids

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 12:51:45 No.53354754 Report

Quoted By: >>53354885

>>53352846
>Curse+Payback
Always reminds me of this shredded Umbreon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 12:53:54 No.53354761 Report

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>>53352760
You need to stop playing the shitty gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 13:33:55 No.53354885 Report

Quoted By: >>53354994

>>53354754
Truly the best set was lost.
Hope he gets Payback and Glare back.
Then slap on some more goodies like:
>Poison fang (its poison lore)
>Cosmic Power (the moonlight polemon needs it)
>Body press (just to get it back to OU)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 13:56:03 No.53354994 Report

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>>53354885
Did it ever have Glare? I'm pretty sure it's restricted to snake-like mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 13:57:45 No.53355005 Report

Quoted By: >>53355111

>>53352760
Can Umbreon learn Foul Play in Gen 5? That’s the only good way for it to deal damage other than Toxic stall

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 14:16:51 No.53355111 Report

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>>53355005
Tutor only

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 14:19:04 No.53355131 Report

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>>53352704
You fell for the Gary meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 14:21:19 No.53355144 Report

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>>53352760
ok unovabort

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2023 18:13:27 No.53356565 Report

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>>53352704
it used to be a tank but now it cant really do it well cause of the recovery-moves nerf and it lost toxic

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