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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 16:24:57 No.53413347 View View Reply Original Report

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if they ever do ANOTHER kanto remake, i want them to add kanto forms of modern pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 16:31:16 No.53413382 Report

Quoted By: >>53420013

Laughed heartily at that G1 Frogadier. Thank you OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 16:31:54 No.53413387 Report

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>>53413347
Lillipup definitely wouldn't have looked like that in Gen 1. That Elektross looks cool though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 16:35:34 No.53413413 Report

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Froakie becoming a sumo wrestler

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 16:38:56 No.53413430 Report

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>>53413347
7/10, better than the original
6/10, slightly worse
3/10, way worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 17:00:00 No.53413582 Report

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There isn't a 1000 to avoid, so no reason to do regional variants anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 18:16:41 No.53414037 Report

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>>53413347
Elektross is a huge improvement.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 18:54:56 No.53414320 Report

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>>53413347
You are aware that the problem is not the region of the pokemon, but the current artistic direction, just take Vulpix as an example, an original Kantomon that has been redesigned to resemble its Alola counterpart.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 18:57:02 No.53414334 Report

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>>53414320

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:02:58 No.53414363 Report

Quoted By: >>53414437

Froakie's redesign is stupid, why would it look like Bulbasaur and not Poliwhirl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:11:13 No.53414408 Report

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>>53413347
These all look that shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:14:14 No.53414432 Report

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>>53414320
I dislike how they made the arctic fox version slimmer than the fire version. It's supposed to be adapted to cold environments. Make it fluffy and have smaller ears. They really just designed it to appeal to pokefuckers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:14:40 No.53414437 Report

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>>53414363
Because they bought too heavily in the "le bulbasaur is a heckin frog" meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:18:33 No.53414466 Report

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>>53413347
Kanto eelektross kicks ass, the other two look terrible

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:23:41 No.53414498 Report

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>>53414320
This, in the end you will only get regional Kanto forms but with the current design philosophy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:32:27 No.53414560 Report

Quoted By: >>53414564

>>53413347
It's funny "artists" can do the "old pokémon in nu style" easily but never the "new pokémon in old style"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:33:18 No.53414564 Report

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>>53414560
That Crabrawler though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:33:41 No.53414566 Report

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1: I asked Masuda-san and his reply was "Hahaha that takes too much effort but we can try bringing back Kanto forms again!"
2: Genwunner normalfags wouldn't like that. Only the original 151 matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:41:23 No.53414615 Report

Quoted By: >>53414660

>>53414437
I know Bulbasaur is frog, my question is why would Froakie look like ONLY Bulbasaur.
The artist is implying Bulbasaur is what any Gen 1 frog would look like when there's already another Gen 1 frog that looks nothing like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:43:41 No.53414636 Report

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>>53414498
am i supposed to want to do wretched things to the one on the right's hole?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:45:04 No.53414643 Report

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All of them are worse than their originals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:47:49 No.53414660 Report

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>>53414615
I know, and what I'm saying is that the artist bought into the "Bulbasaur is a frog" idea, when that's only partially true.

Bulbasaur is a vague hybrid creature, using traits from frogs, yes, but also mammals, pop culture depictions of dinosaurs, and even (perhaps unintentionally) extinct para-reptiles. That line is more "monster" than much else, but a lot of people assume that it is exclusively a frog, and the artist here is likely one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 20:12:52 No.53414801 Report

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>>53414334
I know this is the Red/Blue design, but I don't remember it in the show
>>53414320
I don't remember it looking like this in any game

Maybe I'm just dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 20:15:40 No.53414815 Report

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>>53413347
G1 eelektross would still have round eyes
stop this "every kantomon has triangle eyes" meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 22:07:56 No.53415372 Report

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>>53413347
6/10, weird face, but otherwise fine
9/10, massive improvement
7/10, solid, improved design, but not different enough from Bulbasaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 22:47:04 No.53415620 Report

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>>53413347
Somehow you made nugen designs worse, thanks OP.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 22:51:01 No.53415645 Report

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>>53414801

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 22:52:41 No.53415653 Report

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>>53415645

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 22:53:42 No.53415660 Report

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>>53415653

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 22:55:13 No.53415666 Report

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>>53413347
That eelektross is kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 23:43:40 No.53415945 Report

Quoted By: >>53419371

>>53413347
Somehow you made nugen designs better, thanks OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 00:18:09 No.53416125 Report

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>>53413347
it's a shame because so many nu-gen pokemon could look amazing in the gen 1 art style

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 01:21:46 No.53416464 Report

Quoted By: >>53420212

>official demonym of Kanto is "Kantonian"
>not "Kantonese"
Missed opportunity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 03:27:59 No.53417319 Report

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>>53413347
>Literally a midget arcanine
>Better
>What the fuck

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Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 05:20:49 No.53417911 Report

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>>53414408

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Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 13:45:41 No.53419371 Report

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>>53415945
Kalosschizo moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 14:04:17 No.53419435 Report

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>>53417911
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 14:27:44 No.53419506 Report

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>>53414408
yeah, the ones to the left especially

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Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 15:24:33 No.53419760 Report

Quoted By: >>53419954

>>53414320
>>53414334
Gen 4 started it. Originally Vulpix was very well proportioned, then gen 4 made it have a water head

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 15:59:52 No.53419954 Report

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>>53419760
I agree that the Gen 4+ version is cuter but I feel bad that it has to come to that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 16:11:48 No.53420013 Report

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>>53413382
You mean Froakie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 16:31:36 No.53420107 Report

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>>53413347
That's literally not how regional form works retardo.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 16:51:31 No.53420212 Report

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>>53416464
Das racist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 16:58:21 No.53420245 Report

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>>53420212
Why post a picture of that hack?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 17:30:12 No.53420433 Report

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>>53420212
So Japanese is a racist term?

What should we call them? Japanian? Asian Islander descendant? Sushi?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 19:28:10 No.53421272 Report

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>>53414334
>>53414320
Why did they do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 19:32:19 No.53421295 Report

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>>53413347
Soulful idea. That Elektross looks great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 21:03:46 No.53421936 Report

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>>53413347
>Gen 1 Froakie is Bulbasasur and not Poliwhirl
One job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 21:17:38 No.53422033 Report

Quoted By: >>53422609 >>53422682

>Poliwag
>Tympole
>starts off as tadpoles, later becoming frogs

>Croagunk
>Froakie
>already born as frogs

Are there any real-world examples of this? Certain species maturing into a different form, while other similar species are already born that way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 22:43:36 No.53422609 Report

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>>53422033
Ants undergo a complete metamorphosis (egg - larva - pupa- adult).
Termites undergo an incomplete metamorphosis (egg - multiple nymph stages visually getting closer in appearance to adults - adult).
Zorotypus (angel insect) also undergoes an incomplete metamorphosis, but the nymphs look exactly like adults, only smaller.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 22:52:39 No.53422682 Report

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>>53422033
Some rare frog species skip the tadpole stage, yes.
A new species of tiny frog that has no tadpole stage was discovered in Mexico just last year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 04:22:00 No.53424834 Report

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>>53414334
SOUL

Will always be the better Vulpix

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 04:54:58 No.53425001 Report

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>>53414320
>>53414334
I really don't understand why they feel the need to change designs or make new ones to make it cuter or more marketable as a plushie. I'm pretty sure I had a vulpix plushie years ago that had a bigger head and flat face regardless. It's still recognizably vulpix, and I don't think anyone would bat an eye that their plush toy isn't perfectly on-model and is instead deformed in some spots to look cuter.

It also just ends up as strange when new designs and old designs clash and look out of place alongside eachother. It's nice when pokemon are allowed to look off model in order to make them more detailed or cuter depending on the medium. Plushies can be cute regardless of the designs, and TCG art could add a bunch of extra texture and shading to make the stationary images look more vibrant.
Instead it feels like there's a compulsion to streamline things and smooth out edges as much as possible so that everything lines up to the official art as much as physically possible.

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