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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:32:32 No.53427773 View View Reply Original Report

why didn't battle bond catch on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:35:44 No.53427790 Report

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>>53427773
They couldn’t come up with one for CHARIZARD so it was canceled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:35:58 No.53427793 Report

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>>53427773
too stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:36:03 No.53427795 Report

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>>53427773
Oh it did catched on. But ultimately, it wasn't KANTOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:39:45 No.53427816 Report

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>>53427773
Gamefreak didn't want another mega-evo gimmick to burden their already overworked and very talented programmers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:44:38 No.53427861 Report

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>>53427773
It's just a fake mega form that ash deserved to use instead of a proper mega form like Charizard or Garchomp

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:49:01 No.53427883 Report

Quoted By: >>53429593 >>53433447 >>53433480 >>53433999

>>53427773
Grenigger jobbed the form out of both canon in the anime and existence in the game KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:49:13 No.53427885 Report

Quoted By: >>53427908

>>53427790
Charizard is so based he doesn't need a cruch like Grenigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:50:51 No.53427902 Report

Quoted By: >>53433493

>>53427773
It only existed to give Greninja plot armor for shilling. When XYZ ended, that was no longer necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:51:39 No.53427908 Report

Quoted By: >>53427922

>>53427885
Yeah, he just needs two different megas and a Gigantamax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:53:07 No.53427922 Report

Quoted By: >>53433722

>>53427908
Success breeds jealousy. Charizard has been winning since gen 1 and everyone knows it, including Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:56:00 No.53427939 Report

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>>53427773
probably in years some studio working on a spin-off will make a new form, just like it happened with Shadow Pokemon in Pokken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 17:59:39 No.53427961 Report

Quoted By: >>53428045 >>53429812

It will always be funny that they came up with this instead of just giving Ash a regular mega. Zard had two, Lucario had one! What are we doing here, people?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 18:00:34 No.53427965 Report

Quoted By: >>53427991

>>53427773
It was a special snowflake mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 18:04:06 No.53427991 Report

Quoted By: >>53428005

>>53427965
it functioned similarly to Infernapes blaze ability in the anime funnily enough. Ash's Infernape would avrivate its blaze ability and go super and win, this was just a flashier version of that. I guess you can say Ash had a special infernape that could easily trigger blaze more often than other Infernapes or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 18:06:06 No.53428005 Report

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>>53427991
blaze/torrent/overgrow at 50% hp would be cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 18:11:36 No.53428039 Report

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>>53427773
Because they tied it to Ash and didn't consider what a 3rd ability would mean on all the starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 18:12:21 No.53428045 Report

Quoted By: >>53430212

>>53427961
IIRC the writers really wanted a Kalos mon mega, and there weren't any, so they just made one for the shillmon. Just a really dumb conviction to not give Ash another gen's mega.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 18:45:13 No.53428288 Report

Quoted By: >>53436600

It's a weird design choice, giving Greninja a haircut and clothing details.

I think it's fine as an anime exclusive thing, something to set Ash apart as some special underdog character who can't use Mega Evolution. But since they eventually give him a Mega Lucario anyway, I think they should've just had Mega Greninja/Delphox/Chesnaught in hindsight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 22:05:33 No.53429593 Report

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>>53427883
Based mega charizard X

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 22:08:40 No.53429609 Report

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>>53427773
because ash-gren was so fucking ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 22:29:07 No.53429738 Report

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>>53427773
because it was a retarded contrivance only invented because the XYZ director was a retard and didn’t want Ash to use an actual Mega on any of his older Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 22:40:18 No.53429812 Report

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>>53427961
Ash wasn't ready to get a proper mega yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 23:36:36 No.53430145 Report

Quoted By: >>53430464 >>53433179

>lets you essentially have 2 megas in a battle
whats the problem again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 23:50:15 No.53430212 Report

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>>53428045
It’s actually more retarded that they died on the hill of not giving any Kalos mons megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 23:50:55 No.53430216 Report

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>>53427773
because of the shitstorm of the Kalos League loss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 00:21:15 No.53430362 Report

Quoted By: >>53430383 >>53430450 >>53430472

>>53427773
That’s an atrocious design, did people really think that looked cool?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 00:24:02 No.53430383 Report

Quoted By: >>53430597

>>53430362
only Spics and Pajeets......so no one honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 00:32:07 No.53430450 Report

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>>53430362
The design wasn't the reason people liked it. They liked it because it was a ragebeast with hype fight scenes and its own theme music.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 00:33:59 No.53430464 Report

Quoted By: >>53430482

>>53430145
Sorry Water types, that's his job now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 00:35:28 No.53430472 Report

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>>53430362
its literally just greninja with some extra bits on his head and an X on his back. normal greninja looks equally retarded standing up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 00:36:19 No.53430482 Report

Quoted By: >>53430617

>>53430464
dumb fish

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 00:52:01 No.53430579 Report

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>>53430450
The anime version of Battle Bond made it look like Ash-Greninja had Water Bubble + Speed Booster at the same time, while also holding a LIfe Orb and a signature Z-Crystal. Except it also had a thing where KOing Greninja while it was Battle Bonded to Ash would knock Ash unconscious, forfeiting the match.

There's no way in hell the games could include that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 00:56:56 No.53430597 Report

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>>53430383
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 01:01:33 No.53430617 Report

Quoted By: >>53430734

>>53430482
Show some fucking respect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 01:21:02 No.53430734 Report

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>>53430617
stinky fish

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 06:58:05 No.53432294 Report

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>>53427773
Is it weird that I admitted that Ash-Greninja was retconned as soon as this happened in SV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 09:47:01 No.53432947 Report

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Suck a dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 10:17:08 No.53433056 Report

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>>53427773
It caught on very well and caused Greninja to become more popular than CHARIZARD. GF hated this and destroyed everything related to the form, such as cutting Greninja from Gen 8 and grudgingly bringing it back in Gen 9 but with nerfed Protean and Battle Bond abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 10:57:15 No.53433179 Report

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>>53430145
The fact that you can essentially have three megas when you include the Primals

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:33:29 No.53433442 Report

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>>53427773
Mega Lizardon obliterated Ash-Greninja with true battle strength & strategy.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:35:17 No.53433447 Report

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>>53427883
Based

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:45:23 No.53433480 Report

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>>53427883
Holy Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:49:16 No.53433493 Report

Quoted By: >>53433508 >>53433646

>>53427902
There wasn't a Z you retard

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:54:32 No.53433508 Report

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>>53433493
Anon... Just because Gamefreak couldn't produce their shovelware and XZ and YZ at the same time and gave up on the latter doesn't mean nothing came of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 13:36:39 No.53433646 Report

Quoted By: >>53433692

>>53433493
XY&Z is literally the name of that season.
The theme song for it was called XYZ.
It's clear that they were planning a Z game but skipped it to rush out Sun and Moon for the anniversary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 13:46:29 No.53433692 Report

Quoted By: >>53433714

>>53433646
>It's clear that they were planning a Z game but skipped it to rush out Sun and Moon for the anniversary.
There's a sudden gap year, its not because of fucking SM. XY is when started to focus on side projects.
>XY: October 12, 2013
>ORAS: November 21, 2014

>SM: November 18, 2016
XY2 was not rushed for SM, it was rushed for trash nobody remembers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 13:50:42 No.53433714 Report

Quoted By: >>53433732

>>53433692
>XY2 was not rushed for SM
There was no XY2, retard. That's the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 13:53:38 No.53433722 Report

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>>53427922
Ok retarded charifaggot.
Feel free to keep coping about your shitty lizard (not called a dragon at all in any japanese translation) and thinking it is the best, while it is slowly losing terrain in every modern poll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 13:57:29 No.53433732 Report

Quoted By: >>53433980

>>53433714
Or cancelled i mean. And yes, it did exist. XY2 was a planned project that couldn't be finished because gamefreak can't handle development. They actively tried to push all their focus from pokemon which lasted quite a bit longer; like with the whole sword being made basically only in the last year and mostly by newbies.
Its not a hidden fact that starting around XY they went ahead with an internal project to shit out IPs. That has achieved nothing, and most games under it didn't go anywhere.

Obviously wrong wording in terms of rushed though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 14:43:39 No.53433980 Report

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>>53433732
>and yes, it did exist
There is absolutely no evidnece for an XY2/Z ever existing that couldn't be explained in other ways. They had a few leftover ideas from XY and one case of actual good coding in Bank, but neither of those mean the game was ever in development, just considered during XY's creation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 14:46:13 No.53433999 Report

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>>53427883
/thread

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 15:08:57 No.53434104 Report

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>>53427773
Because it's just a Mega for one Pokemon? There's nothing to "catch on"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 15:17:27 No.53434145 Report

Quoted By: >>53434950

>>53427773
It was an anime power up that leaked into the games.
Even from its inception as a DEMO only pokemon it feels like its inclusion was something GF never wanted. I suppose enough time has passed and they are scrubbing the form out. Also it is one less model to maintain over time so there is that too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 17:43:06 No.53434950 Report

Quoted By: >>53436358 >>53436479

>>53434145
>Even from its inception as a DEMO only pokemon
No one tell him.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 17:52:54 No.53435005 Report

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>>53427773
Maybe if the Kalos starters got proper Megas for Pokémon Z, this abomination wouldn't have existed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 21:39:30 No.53436358 Report

Quoted By: >>53436479

>>53434950
Tell me what, Anon? The SM Demo was the only way to get a BB Greninja.
It is a pokemon you can't get through conventional means. Sure you can transfer to the games but BBGreininja is still locked to the demo. Hell, BB Greninja can’t even breed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 21:55:32 No.53436479 Report

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>>53436358
>>53434950
The anons right you know
Sun and Moon Demo is the only way to get BB Greninja, and you should download the demo before the eshop shuts down so you can get infinite BB Greninja's

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 22:15:26 No.53436600 Report

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>>53428288
They did want to give greninja a mega, but gamefreak said no since that would mean giving a mega to delphox and chesnaught. Honestly, we REALLY needed a Pokemon Z, wish they had done that for the 20 anniversary and left SM for a 2017 release

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2023 22:21:45 No.53436645 Report

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>>53427773
Because it was never suppose to exist. The writes assumed the Gen 6 starters were going to get Megas. They even begged GF to do it. So when they didn't, this is what we got.

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