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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 10:50:00 No.53497268 View View Reply Original Report

Why didn't he ruin Gengar and Charizard, his two favorite Pokémon if he really believes this shit is true?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 10:54:40 No.53497274 Report

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>>53497268
Because he isn't the one who designed Charizard? Are you an idiot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 10:55:55 No.53497275 Report

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>>53497268
Gengar is a fat fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 10:56:50 No.53497278 Report

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gengar doesn't look cool hes a goofy dick head and Charizard has a big plump belly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 10:59:29 No.53497279 Report

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>>53497274
/vp/ is so triggered Charizard exists and is popular with the general public, it can't help but chimp out over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:14:19 No.53497312 Report

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>>53497268
Gen 4 they wanted the anime to be on Cartoon Network so they made the Pokemon look like Looney Toons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:16:11 No.53497316 Report

Quoted By: >>53498311

>>53497268
charizard is fat shaped and wouldn't fly very gracefully and gengar is a goofy running fat thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:17:08 No.53497318 Report

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>>53497274
>>53497268
According to Bulbapedia, he didn't design Gengar either
He did Nidoking, Clefairy, Magnemite, Gyarados, Lapras, Snorlax, Mewtwo, Hoothoot, Pichu, Sudowoodo, Blaziken, Manaphy, Palkia, Dialga, Sawk, Throh, Durant, Heatmor, Reshiram, Zekrom, and Alolan Exeggutor
Very few of these Pokemon listed are "uncool"
It should be pointed out that while he doesn't design every Pokemon, it's been said that he's the one that finalizes designs by doing their official art every gen, so you have to wonder which Pokemon he goes out of his way to nerd and how each time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:18:15 No.53497323 Report

Quoted By: >>53497326

He did, Gengar is shit and ruins the Ghastly line, just like how he ruined the Dratini line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:19:24 No.53497326 Report

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>>53497323
He didn't design any of the Pokémon in either of those lines
He didn't program the evo lines either, he's just a drawfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:23:34 No.53497337 Report

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>it's another /vp/ fails at nuance episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:30:48 No.53497352 Report

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>>53497274
he didn't design Blastoise but he ruined it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:36:46 No.53497367 Report

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>>53497274
>>53497326
he took the sprite designs from the other artists and changed him himself.

the original Venusaur had sharper eyes and black spots instead of warts until Sugimori redesigned it to make it less appealing than Charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:41:03 No.53497378 Report

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>>53497367
That'd be believable if he wasn't on record as saying Venusaur is one of his favorite Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:43:19 No.53497384 Report

Quoted By: >>53497393

>>53497378
if he likes Venusaur he would enjoy drawing it.
Fun fact: Sugimori never drew Venusaur in any of the promotional artworks. even his artbook for XY had all starters except Venusaur.
He even changed Red's clothes in Masters to match Charizard X

he worships Charizard like Tajiri, this is why it's aggressively shilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:46:35 No.53497393 Report

Quoted By: >>53497406

>>53497384
I'm realizing now that this is either bait or you're retarded, because he doesn't do every design for every aspect of the series himself
Congrats on your (You)s, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:48:19 No.53497398 Report

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>>53497367
the warts are a mandatory part of venusaur
it's meant to look like a big cool toad monster

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:51:07 No.53497406 Report

Quoted By: >>53497540 >>53498324 >>53498366 >>53498392

>>53497393
>b-bait!
so you are just scared to admit being wrong
ok

>>53497398
Nishida's Venusaur looked better, felt more menacing, and actually a good transition from Ivysaur since it carries the Toriyama eyes and dark spots.
Shitimori decided to give Venusaur a drunk/sleepy eyes and warts to make it look ugly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:55:12 No.53497415 Report

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>>53497268
She designed Charizard. Not him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:57:15 No.53497423 Report

Quoted By: >>53497437 >>53497447 >>53498391

>>53497415
This is her Charizard.
Nishida was a sprite artist, and Sugimori converted her designs to watermark ones (according to interviews)

Shitimori made Charizard looks cool but ruined Venusaur and Blastoise so they don't compete

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 11:59:27 No.53497433 Report

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>>53497268
>Why didn't he ruin Charizard
because it's already shit you can't make it worse

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:00:21 No.53497437 Report

Quoted By: >>53498166

>>53497423
>Ruined his favorite Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:02:30 No.53497447 Report

Quoted By: >>53497468

>>53497423
So the rumor saying that Sugimori took several pages from Greymon when making Charizard's official art is true then

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:08:27 No.53497468 Report

Quoted By: >>53497490 >>53501591

>>53497447
Sugimori just looked at Dragon Quest designs and tried to "plushifies" them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:13:49 No.53497490 Report

Quoted By: >>53497496

>>53497468
Turner did Naganadel, you mental defective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:15:12 No.53497496 Report

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>>53497490
I know. that pic isn't for Sugimori alone

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:16:03 No.53497501 Report

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Absolutely mentally defective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:16:55 No.53497505 Report

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>>53497268
It was before the anime. The anime was when they decided to make everything cutesy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:17:05 No.53497506 Report

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and don't come back, boot licker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:27:25 No.53497540 Report

Quoted By: >>53497548

>>53497406
those aspects of venusaur don't "ruin the design", dumbass, those are the best parts. it's supposed to capture the charm of a big gloomy warty toad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:28:21 No.53497548 Report

Quoted By: >>53497561

>>53497540
and Venusaur become the least popular starter so (You) and Sugimori are both dumbasses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:31:36 No.53497561 Report

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>>53497548
i do not give a shit about popularity. i personally like venusaur the best and don't care if the other ones are shilled more (and i'm fairly certain blastoise is the least popular but whatever)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:52:22 No.53497618 Report

Quoted By: >>53497636

>>53497268
But Charizard has that goofy pot belly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 12:58:56 No.53497636 Report

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>>53497618
Shhh you're not supposed to notice that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:06:59 No.53498144 Report

Quoted By: >>53498157 >>53501599 >>53510091

>>53497367
I love Venusaur but I must admit it would look better if it kept the spots instead of warts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:09:55 No.53498157 Report

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>>53498144
yeah, you can see how much Nishida's Venusaur is 1000x better than Shitimori's "uncool" version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:11:59 No.53498166 Report

Quoted By: >>53498178

>>53497437
>Nickname boogaloo
Wait what, what part of his name is censored? I understand CoFAGgrigus but Venusaur? is Enus too close to Anus or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:13:11 No.53498175 Report

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>Gengar
He basically did with the fact that Gengar isn't as cool as Haunter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:13:22 No.53498178 Report

Quoted By: >>53498190

>>53498166
Sau is a slur in German and Gamefreak decided to censor Saur

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:15:51 No.53498190 Report

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>>53498178
Fair enough, reminds me of Kamek's "Spastic" boogaloo from Mario Party 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:37:29 No.53498301 Report

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>>53497268
>charizard
>the pokemon with the funny big belly
>gengar
>literally just a goofy smiling blob
How many times will you make this thread just to be wrong every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:39:53 No.53498311 Report

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>>53497316
gen 1 is fat shaped

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:42:19 No.53498324 Report

Quoted By: >>53498329

>>53497406
sugimori designed venusaur, though

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:43:37 No.53498329 Report

Quoted By: >>53498332 >>53498357 >>53498384 >>53498385

>>53498324
no, Venusaur designed this before Nishida joined Gamefreak and designed the Bulbasaur line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:44:24 No.53498332 Report

Quoted By: >>53498357

>>53498329
>Venusaur designed this
huh?
Nishida designed Bulbasaur, but Sugimori designed Ivysaur and Venusaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:46:45 No.53498349 Report

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>>53497268
Charizard is a fat fuck and Gengar just a blob with a goofy smiling face. If a zoomer designed them they would both just look like generic edgy digimon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:47:47 No.53498357 Report

Quoted By: >>53498384

>>53498329
>>53498332
I meant Sugimori** designed this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:49:00 No.53498364 Report

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>>53497268
Charizard has a big dumpy pot belly and gengar has a goofy huge tongue wagging around. Both of them do have uncool features that you've just grown to accept as part of them because you're more used to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:49:33 No.53498366 Report

Quoted By: >>53500040

>>53497406
>left image
hippo thing with a muffin head and cat ears
>right image
evil snake hippo thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:51:39 No.53498378 Report

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>>53497268
He didn't design charizard or gengar
either way zard has stubby arms and a fat uncool belly, and gengar has more or less the same 'flaw'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:52:32 No.53498384 Report

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>>53498329
>>53498357
oh so that's why some of the starters are complete shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:53:44 No.53498385 Report

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>>53498329
>they never used this thing after all this time, it's that bad
>but gholdengo exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:55:19 No.53498391 Report

Quoted By: >>53498781

>>53497423
were there other sprite artists for gen 1, are you sure she designed him and didnt make the sprite from someone else's drawn design?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 15:55:45 No.53498392 Report

Quoted By: >>53498415

>>53497406
Left is infinitely better than right

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 16:01:37 No.53498415 Report

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>>53498392
right is green, the body was way smaller. look how much it changed just from green to yellow (designs from the anime)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 17:24:29 No.53498781 Report

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>>53498391
the sprites in Japanese red and green are the original designs, the final designs we know now are interpretations of those sprites. there were several sprite artists for gen 1 including a bunch of non-artists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 17:53:31 No.53498932 Report

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Luxray is ruined by its tail and ears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 19:47:18 No.53499534 Report

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>>53497279
Pretty much this.
People are so desesperate to feel special.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 19:51:19 No.53499557 Report

Quoted By: >>53499823

>T-TRIGGERED
>S-SEETHING
>O-OBSESSED
>E-ESL
sometimes I wonder if charizard fans are just advanced AI robots because they never bring any actual argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 19:57:09 No.53499594 Report

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>>53497268
They are "ruined."
Gengar is literally the most basic fucking design you can have. It's a few spikes away from being purple Kirby. If it were "cooler" it would have had more to it. But the simplicity makes it relatable as evidence by its huge fanbase. Same with charizard. They stripped away most of the unneeded design elements and left you with a basic european dragon. People like that.

Coco Chanel, the creator of Chanel fashion house, had a similar philosophy. To paraphrase her thoughts on creating a perfect outfit: “Before you leave the house, look in the mirror and take one thing off.”

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 20:32:00 No.53499823 Report

Quoted By: >>53499830

>>53499557
Charizard lives rent free in your mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 20:32:47 No.53499830 Report

Quoted By: >>53499864

>>53499823
ok, bot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 20:37:11 No.53499864 Report

Quoted By: >>53499866

>>53499830
There is no need to be upset

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 20:37:31 No.53499866 Report

Quoted By: >>53499897

>>53499864
you are the one getting angry over my reply above

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 20:41:23 No.53499897 Report

Quoted By: >>53500021

>>53499866
You are the one complaining charizard fans don't take you seriously
Also, we're not the one making threads about anti-charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 20:59:31 No.53500021 Report

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>>53499897
OP wasn't anti-Charizard. it's more like anti-Sugimori

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 21:04:14 No.53500040 Report

Quoted By: >>53502057

>>53498366
>snake
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 22:23:06 No.53500532 Report

Quoted By: >>53501664

>>53497279
Nah we just hate charifaggots. And you can't cope with this fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 22:25:15 No.53500550 Report

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>>53497268
>Gengar
Colour change
>Charizard
Pot belly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 22:39:13 No.53500634 Report

Quoted By: >>53501575

>ctrl + f
>belly
>6 results
Charizard has a belly before Sugimori finalized the design.
again, Sugimori didn't put anything negative on Charizard because he has a huge boner for Charizard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:45:39 No.53501523 Report

Quoted By: >>53501564

E N T E R
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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:51:06 No.53501564 Report

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>>53501523
E X I T
X
I
T

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:51:29 No.53501569 Report

Quoted By: >>53501660

>>53497268
Can we see this done? Anybody got photoshop and some free time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:52:30 No.53501575 Report

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>>53500634
you sure that's not just a dragonite with its tail on fire?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:54:32 No.53501588 Report

Quoted By: >>53501805

>>53497268
Bro he did
Compare Gen 1 era Gengar and Charizard to current Gen Charizard and Gengar

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:54:57 No.53501591 Report

Quoted By: >>53501611 >>53502064

>>53497468
several of those are digimon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:56:11 No.53501599 Report

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>>53498144
i feel like it should have both.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:57:52 No.53501609 Report

Quoted By: >>53501618 >>53504499

Soul Removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:57:55 No.53501611 Report

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>>53501591
No, I don't see anything from Unova there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:58:55 No.53501618 Report

Quoted By: >>53501628

>>53501609
So "soul" just means the watercolor effect, at last we have a definition

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 01:00:35 No.53501628 Report

Quoted By: >>53501655

>>53501618
>Ignoring how cucked his jawline and face are now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 01:05:30 No.53501655 Report

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>>53501628
His new jaw is bigger and recedes less, an his nose is less Jewish
That is all

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 01:06:47 No.53501660 Report

Quoted By: >>53501735

>>53497268
>>53501569

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 01:07:27 No.53501664 Report

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>>53500532
>Nah we just hate charifaggots. And you can't cope with this fact.

you'll always be a virgin who can't make eye contact with a woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 01:20:03 No.53501735 Report

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>>53501660
I think he meant the face, not the hair

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 01:21:48 No.53501754 Report

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>>53497279
Plenty of other pokemon are popular with the public, and you don't see people mad about them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 01:28:48 No.53501805 Report

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>>53501588
The Red/Green artwork for Charizard looks pretty much the same as modern Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 02:00:53 No.53502057 Report

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>>53500040
the face

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 02:02:04 No.53502064 Report

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>>53501591
lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 02:14:14 No.53502161 Report

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>>53497268
Charizard has stick arms and a pot belly.
It has uncool aspects too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 02:22:14 No.53502213 Report

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>>53497268
I feel like he's overthinking it and plenty of Pokémon would be popular or unpopular either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 05:10:21 No.53503274 Report

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>>53497415
My fucking hero

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 08:57:05 No.53504499 Report

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>>53501609
>charizard went from being Red to Orange
is Sugimori color blind?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 11:30:40 No.53506689 Report

Quoted By: >>53506713 >>53506816 >>53506911 >>53507135 >>53508523

What's uncool about pic related? They're instant favorite for people and I can't seems to find anything goofy on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 11:32:18 No.53506713 Report

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>>53506689
For Ceruledge it's those shoe armor things

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 11:45:33 No.53506816 Report

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>>53506689
Mittens and stumps for Armarouge and giant greaves for Ceruledge, not to mention the special needs helmet for both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 11:56:15 No.53506911 Report

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>>53506689
didn't sugimori stop working on monster designs after SM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 12:23:53 No.53507135 Report

Quoted By: >>53509040 >>53509063

>>53506689
the retarded eyesore yellow armor, the retarded edgyness of the designs, the complete lack of any interesting aspects whatsoever in both of these things, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 15:37:07 No.53508523 Report

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>>53506689
the shiny impacts more

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 16:39:22 No.53509040 Report

Quoted By: >>53509045

>>53507135
>Edgy
Learn a new word Zoomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 16:40:17 No.53509045 Report

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>>53509040
What other word would work as well as edgy to convey what he meant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 16:41:02 No.53509051 Report

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>>53497268
Charizard has the body type of a turkey drumstick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 16:43:29 No.53509063 Report

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>>53507135
Oh, so you don't actually have real complaints with them. Good to know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 18:58:38 No.53510091 Report

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>>53498144
I like the warts but that's because it makes it even more Toadlike and Froggy. Both are cool

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