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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 00:42:21 No.53512652 View View Reply Original Report

Let's settle this.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 00:49:16 No.53512692 Report

Quoted By: >>53513493 >>53513659

What would a lion's base stat and movepool be?

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 00:51:29 No.53512710 Report

Quoted By: >>53512764 >>53513125 >>53513493 >>53514600 >>53514655 >>53515502

>>53512652
It's a stupid thought experiment
If we follow real life rules, you don't need 1 of every pokemon, you just need 1 (alternatively, lions win because pokemon don't exist).
If we follow game rules, every pokemon struggles to death before even making a dent in the number of lions

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 00:59:12 No.53512764 Report

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>>53512710
how about anime rules

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 01:04:02 No.53512799 Report

Quoted By: >>53513493

>fire pokémon start spewing flames everywhere
>lions' manes get set alight
>general widespread panic sets in as the dumb beasts try and flee the flames, which get spread from furball to furball
>yfw kitty got routed by Ember

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 01:04:36 No.53512804 Report

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>>53512764
Anime rules Pokemon still win, Hoopa can just portal the lions into space

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 01:39:25 No.53513034 Report

Quoted By: >>53513115 >>53513493

Real shit
Discuss pic related

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 01:51:59 No.53513115 Report

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>>53513034
Who the hell is aslan again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 01:53:45 No.53513125 Report

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>>53512710
>If we follow game rules, every pokemon struggles to death before even making a dent in the number of lions
Perish song buddy, easy clap.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:14:11 No.53513269 Report

Quoted By: >>53513493

How big of a field would you need to contain 1 billion lions?

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:17:06 No.53513283 Report

Quoted By: >>53513493

>the lions when houndstone and basculegion use last respects and kingambit gets a 1000+ supreme overlord boost

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:19:01 No.53513298 Report

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>>53513115
Jesus but he's a lion.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:19:52 No.53513307 Report

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>>53513115
A lion who's an allegory for Jesus from the Narnia books

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:21:41 No.53513319 Report

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>>53513307
>allegory
He actually IS Jesus
Outright says it himself in Voyage of the Dawn Treader
He just transforms into a different form and gets a new name when saving worlds

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:22:18 No.53513323 Report

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>>53512652
I don't know, thats a lot of lions

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:26:11 No.53513352 Report

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>>53513323
Even back during Gen 4, when this meme started, you could make an argument that Pokemon had reached a power level where Pokemon would win solely on the back of legendary Pokemon. Now that's even more true, shit like Arceus, Ultra Necrozma, or Eternamax Eternatus could probably beat a lot of lions. If we are going by game rules though yeah struggle shit would happen, although if we go with Gen 1's infinite PP for enemy trainers then shit could get fucking wacky.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:39:41 No.53513436 Report

Quoted By: >>53513457 >>53513493

>>53513319
Wouldn't it be blasphemous for a christian?
And yet computer science lewis still wrote this.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:41:10 No.53513444 Report

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>>53512652
Dialga/arceus uses time shenanigans and makes OP suck dick for pitting them in this situation

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:43:02 No.53513457 Report

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>>53513436
Jesus is refered to as the Lion of the tribe of Judah in the bible. It's not that much of a stretch. Plus, the description of Jesus showing himself to John in Revelation is nothing like how we depict him in any art.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:46:23 No.53513479 Report

Quoted By: >>53513493 >>53516075

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BILLION LIONS I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN THOSE THINGS I SAID. TURN OFF THE CONCRETE MIXER THIS INSTANT. IT STINGS
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:48:45 No.53513493 Report

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>>53512652
T-Rex solos
>>53512692
T-Rex solos
>>53512710
T-Rex solos
>>53512764
T-Rex solos
>>53512799
T-Rex solos
>>53512804
T-Rex solos
>>53513034
T-Rex solos
>>53513115
T-Rex solos
>>53513125
T-Rex solos
>>53513269
T-Rex solos
>>53513283
T-Rex solos
>>53513298
T-Rex solos
>>53513307
T-Rex solos
>>53513319
T-Rex solos
>>53513323
T-Rex solos
>>53513352
T-Rex solos
>>53513436
T-Rex solos
>>53513444
T-Rex solos
>>53513457
T-Rex solos
>>53513479
T-Rex solos

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:00:29 No.53513579 Report

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>>53513493
I agree!

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:03:08 No.53513594 Report

Quoted By: >>53514465 >>53515482 >>53515499

>>53512652
I feel like people who say the Pokemon would win don't realize how fucking big 1,000,000,000 of a number is.
Every single Pokemon that exists would need to be dealing with 990,099 Lions all at once, and that does not include the fact that shitmons like Caterpie will be killed first. With only Fully Evolved Pokemon and fringe amount of NFEs like Ursaring, you have each Pokemon needing to deal with just about 1,795,000 Lions all at once.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:10:50 No.53513659 Report

Quoted By: >>53513712 >>53513762 >>53515497

>>53512692
Typing:
Typeless
Ability:
Lion: Combines the effects of Strong Jaw, Power Spot, Telepathy, Stakeout, Tough Claws, and Intimidate. Makes all moves used by the pokemon become Typeless and without STAB. Cannot be suppressed, copied, or switched.
bst:
86
177
138
0(1)
0(1)
106
Moveset:
Pounce, Lunge, Snarl, Roar, Noble Roar, Bite, Crunch, Jaw Lock, Lick, Headlong Rush, Double Hit, Double Slap, Pound, Slam, Stomp, Defense Curl, Struggle, Dire Claw, Leer, Take Down

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:19:15 No.53513712 Report

Quoted By: >>53513860

>>53513659
Wouldn't lions be pure normal type?
Hell, I could even see them being normal/ground type.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:23:11 No.53513736 Report

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Realistically if it's in world mechanics, palkia could just put them in a void to space or the bottom of the ocean and it's over.

Then we have to wonder - could the lion even hit some Pokemon? What about shedninja? It might be a grueling slog, but it they can't touch shedninja, it's a guaranteed win.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:27:26 No.53513762 Report

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>>53513659
>Telepathy
???
>Power Spot
???
>All attacks are typeless
So it's unaffected by type advantages? Shouldn't it just have normal type attacks?
>177 Atk
more atk than any pokemon physically weaker than Deoxys Atk and Megafug?
>138 Def
more Def than stonjourner and dusknoir? than carracosta? than fucking ferrothorn?
>106 SpD
Faster than M-Sharpedo?

I don't have issues with the moveset besides lick, plenty of pokemon have tongues and don't learn lick.

Come on anon there's a billion of them they don't need such inflated stats.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:38:47 No.53513833 Report

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Psychics put up a barrier to keep them from coming close, flying types hyper beam from the sky and others hyper beam from a safe distance. If any get past the psychics, electric types drop them, ice types freeze them, rock types hurl boulders at them. Even the small fries can flash, mud slap, sand attack, and confuse them.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:42:57 No.53513860 Report

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>>53513712
>>53513762
they're lions

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:06:15 No.53514318 Report

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>>53513493
Ya got a point.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:26:27 No.53514422 Report

Quoted By: >>53514514

Just has to sit there, while every lion tries to touch it only to get melted. It can eat, sleep, take a stroll and it’d be like nothing is happening to it.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:29:16 No.53514437 Report

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I dunno.
One billion is a big-ass number.
I think the lions got this by sheer numbers alone.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:34:51 No.53514465 Report

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>>53513594
>hitmons like Caterpie will be killed first.
Caterpie can slow down a lion.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:35:54 No.53514473 Report

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>>53512652
How even ONE lion would battle Rayquaza?

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:38:46 No.53514485 Report

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>>53513493
canon

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:45:53 No.53514514 Report

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>>53514422
Yeah dude what a powerful force of nature that even a little kid can hug the evolved form with no issue
Fucking moron the lions solo Pokeshart 10 times over

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:46:03 No.53514516 Report

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>>53513493
>cold blooded lizard

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 05:57:38 No.53514565 Report

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>>53513493
Not against Ankylosaurus

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:07:45 No.53514600 Report

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>>53512710
>kyogre used surf

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:24:13 No.53514655 Report

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>>53512710
>It's a stupid thought experiment
It's a joke. Who would win, a 100 trillion Lions or the Sun? The Lions because they would attack at night

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:27:30 No.53514671 Report

Quoted By: >>53514680 >>53514693

>>53513352
>solely on the back of legendary Pokemon.
Honestly you don't even have to go that far. If you had infinite time I'd pick a single Steelix. What the fuck could the Lions even do to hurt it?

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:29:06 No.53514680 Report

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>>53514671
they could light some fire and melt it

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:29:26 No.53514683 Report

Quoted By: >>53514786

Lions wouldn't be able to hurt Ghost Pokémon. Ghosts exist forever. Pokémon win

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:31:15 No.53514693 Report

Quoted By: >>53514713 >>53517090

>>53514671
>a steelix would take bare minimum 1 damage from even something like a shinx using bite
>hundreds of lions bite the steelix all at once and knock it out
You're underestimating the amount of lions bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:36:48 No.53514713 Report

Quoted By: >>53514875

>>53514693
>Steelix uses Earthquake
>Hits everything on the field
>Instantly kills all the Lions
Don't come at me with your game logic

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:49:26 No.53514746 Report

Quoted By: >>53514755

>>53512652
There are just over 1000 pokemon so the question is really, could every pokemon beat a million lions each. To which the answer is no, best case scenario is that they’d simply run out of pp. pokemon get tired and a prolonged battle against a million lions would wear any thing out.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 06:51:44 No.53514755 Report

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>>53514746
This ends with all the pokemon who should really be impervious to a lion, spamming struggle and knocking themselves out.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:00:13 No.53514786 Report

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>>53514683
Bite is super effective against Ghost-type Pokemon.
Checkmate, you faggot.

Captcha: KYSTW

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:04:21 No.53514805 Report

Quoted By: >>53515024

I don't understand, wouldn't any flying mon win unless the lions could become gymnasts and start climb on top of each other into a makeshift lion tower? I mean the flying mon would have to take breaks, but there has to be some place on earth they could rest where a billion lions couldn't get to them.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:05:49 No.53514810 Report

Quoted By: >>53521807

>>53514565
mah nigga
Why the fuck is grotle the closest thing we have to an ankylosaurus mon?

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:12:03 No.53514828 Report

Quoted By: >>53514880

'nuff said.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:28:18 No.53514875 Report

Quoted By: >>53516824 >>53516846

>>53514713
>can only hit 5 enemies at once at absolute best
>steelix is probably slower than regular humans
No.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:29:27 No.53514880 Report

Quoted By: >>53514886

>>53514828
>this kills every pokemon too
The best Pokeshit can do is force a stalemate because they can't beat the lions? Sad

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:31:42 No.53514886 Report

Quoted By: >>53514902

>>53514880
I went with one of the most extreme options, but another legendary like kyorge could simply flood the land and drown all 1 billion lions.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:32:11 No.53514888 Report

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>>53512652
Shedinja steals all their souls. Lion cucks die instantly.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:32:15 No.53514889 Report

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>>53512652
You have to consider it's a lot damn harder to feed an army of 1000000000 carnivorous lions all fighting over the same food than an army of 1000 pokemon which eat a variety of things. The lions will quickly resort to cannibalism and their army will eat itself. More pokemon will be able to survive over time, so lions will lose from attrition

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:32:58 No.53514892 Report

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allow us to introduce ourselves...

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:33:02 No.53514893 Report

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Garganacl solos.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:35:18 No.53514902 Report

Quoted By: >>53514928 >>53523020

>>53514886
Right...just like how in Sapphire it took Kyogre ages and it still failed to even flood the bottom layer of Sootopolis City which is located right next to the ocean with a huge pool already inside it and the city is also inside a giant basin where the water has nowhere else to go.
I'm sure if the lions take a few years to clear out all the Poketards that strategy might work

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:40:35 No.53514928 Report

Quoted By: >>53514943 >>53515532

>>53514902
okay then consider these two

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 07:44:15 No.53514943 Report

Quoted By: >>53515046

>>53514928
>their more powerful forms while enraged were beaten by a small child throwing shit at them
Yeah I think the lions can manage

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 08:03:12 No.53515024 Report

Quoted By: >>53520952

>>53514805
Lions eat birds anon.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 08:08:20 No.53515046 Report

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>>53514943
actually dialga and palkia fighting with each other almost caused the universe to implode.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 10:53:25 No.53515482 Report

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>>53513594
Someone's watched Arson Bjork, I see. Really wish the wigger would start uploading again.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 10:55:41 No.53515485 Report

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>>53513493
autism

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 10:59:46 No.53515497 Report

Quoted By: >>53516141 >>53517850

>>53513659
Why the fuck would they be able to hit harder than Mega Rayquaza?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 11:00:18 No.53515499 Report

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>>53513594
If we were talking straight up mano y mano, then yes, obviously, no matter how strong you are you can't beat hundreds of thousands of lions. Even strong Pokémon like Venusaur or Ursaring might as well be irrelevant. But there's a lot of Pokémon that the lions straight up can't touch, and that have abilities that can defeat thousands of lions easily. Ghost types, steel types, flying types, water types especially. What are the lions gonna do to defeat, say, Lugia?

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 11:00:23 No.53515502 Report

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>>53512710
>If we follow game rules, every pokemon struggles to death before even making a dent in the number of lions
phantump + trevenant harvesting leppa berries for every pokemon

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 11:10:25 No.53515532 Report

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>>53514928
Only Palkia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 11:19:11 No.53515553 Report

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>>53512652
Lions will mog

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 11:32:29 No.53515587 Report

Quoted By: >>53516049 >>53517920

>>53513125
About 35 Pokemon learn perish song, and it has max 8pp. If we’re going by game rules and make it doubles with switching out, then youd kill 560 lions with perish song before running out of pp.
9999440 Lions remain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:27:51 No.53515944 Report

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>>53514514
Pokémon don’t hurt unless under threat or don’t trust you. Literally explained in gen 1 Pokémon with the episode about Ponyta

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:34:19 No.53515974 Report

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>>53512652
pokemon are known to have superpowers like knocking a mountain off with a punch or creating universes, so pokemon will win. hack, you only need 1 arceus and he'll just will those lions out of existence!

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:49:18 No.53516030 Report

Quoted By: >>53516038 >>53522526

1 billion lions / around 1000 pokemon.
Each pokemon therefore needs to defeat 1000 lions.
No pokemon has 1000 combined pp.
Lions win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:50:19 No.53516038 Report

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>>53516030
fuck I did the math wrong. They all need to defeat a MILLION

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:52:30 No.53516049 Report

Quoted By: >>53516090

>>53513125
>>53515587
Perish song would also kill all Pokémon so it'd be a draw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:52:43 No.53516050 Report

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>>53513493
>Can't even beat a Minior
Lmao

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:54:09 No.53516053 Report

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>>53512652
one of every pokemon includes the gods that control the very fabric of the universe, so that's probably who wins

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:55:14 No.53516057 Report

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>>53513493
is this a shitpost because there actually is people like this who never mentally progressed past 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 13:58:28 No.53516069 Report

Quoted By: >>53520970

step 1
The pokemon teamkill any air lock or cloud nine pokemon that prevent weather effects.

Step 2
Use sandstorm

Step 3
Stall and continue to refresh the sandstorm

Step 4
All lions die at turn 16

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 14:00:50 No.53516075 Report

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>>53513479
>Using a retconned anime movie that wasn't even canon to begin with and that the director himself said he had no fucking idea how to make it as your argument
Game Arceus can create and destroy universes as easy as farting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 14:02:40 No.53516083 Report

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>>53512652
lions can't even defeat a magikarp lmao

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 14:04:44 No.53516090 Report

Quoted By: >>53516363

>>53516049
Snover will dig underground and survive with Soundproof

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 14:06:19 No.53516095 Report

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>>53514514
It was confirmed in the anime that fire-type pokemon can control or contain their body temperature in order to not harm their trainers.
Don't get into a debate if you have no idea about the topic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 14:09:52 No.53516099 Report

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>muh PP's
Literally game mechanics, Groudon and Kyogre fought for days without getting tired in the ancient past and only stopped when Rayquaza intervened.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 14:16:30 No.53516122 Report

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>>53513493
Based and redpilled RexGOD laying down the fax

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 14:23:52 No.53516141 Report

Quoted By: >>53517850

>>53515497
Lions dont fuck around unlike your baby """monsters""'

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 15:13:46 No.53516363 Report

Quoted By: >>53519350

>>53516090
Why would it need to dig underground for that? Soundproof works above ground too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 17:10:36 No.53516824 Report

Quoted By: >>53517060 >>53517114

>>53514875
>Earthquake can only hit one enemy, bro xD
>OK earthquake can now hit two enemies but that's it
>..umm I guess earthquake can hit 3 enemies now?
>no no no you don't get it, earthquake can only hit 5 enemies trust me
Sad!

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 17:14:43 No.53516846 Report

Quoted By: >>53517060

>>53514875
It's an earthquake, it hits everything within the area of effect.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 17:19:34 No.53516869 Report

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Pokemidgets so outclassed by digimon that they have to pick on real life lions and the fact that people think it's competitive says enough about how weak pokemidgets truly are.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 17:25:15 No.53516885 Report

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>>53512652
Its not even close
There's a few pokemon that could solo 1 billion lions. Like what a is Lion meant to realistically do against a Gengar for example

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:00:29 No.53517060 Report

Quoted By: >>53517097 >>53517114

>>53516824
Nobody ever said any of this. Take your message schizo
>>53516846
It can only hit up to 5 times at max as shown in horde battles. What, do you think you just whip out Steelix while strolling in the wild and use Earthquake and everything in 100 miles faints? Every random Pokemon you meet is at full HP so they're clearly never bothered or hurt by wide ranged attacks trainers use.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:04:41 No.53517078 Report

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>pokeshitters think pokemon can win again a billion of these
Lol
Lmao

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:06:57 No.53517090 Report

Quoted By: >>53517106

>>53514693
What would happen if the lions bit Steelix

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:08:49 No.53517097 Report

Quoted By: >>53517128

>>53517060
It hits 5 because that's the maximum number of targets possible in a battle. If there were more targets, it'd hit more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:10:11 No.53517106 Report

Quoted By: >>53517112

>>53517090
>a few hundred lions have their teeth fall out
>steelix is knocked out and 999999700 lions still remain plus the few hundred lions still have claws
Not the comeback you think this is and tranime isn't canon, my Meowth can use Bite on Steelix multiple times in a row with no problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:11:10 No.53517112 Report

Quoted By: >>53517137

>>53517106
That's game mechanics, retard. If you bite a giant metal snake, your teeth get broken. That's the reality of the situation.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:11:27 No.53517114 Report

Quoted By: >>53517137

>>53517060
>it can only hit 5 because the highest number we've currently seen it hit in-game is five
See>>53516824 and then kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:13:52 No.53517128 Report

Quoted By: >>53517140

>>53517097
When you invade the Mossdeep Space Center you're fighting everyone there yet in the trainer horde battle you can only hit the 5 trainers' Pokemon you fight at once
Additionally if Earthquake hit a ton more opponents the damage spread over a billion lions would be microscopic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:15:39 No.53517137 Report

Quoted By: >>53517155 >>53517223 >>53523370

>>53517114
Why are you quoting literal gibberish?
>>53517112
>THE MECHANICS THAT WE SEE ON SCREEN AREN'T CANON BECAUSE...UM....THEY JUST ARENT OKAY
why are retards like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:16:28 No.53517140 Report

Quoted By: >>53517297

>>53517128
>can only hit the 5 trainers' Pokemon you fight at once

Because again, those are the five you're aiming for. It's generally agreed that Pokemon have a degree of control over the radius of their attacks. Like how moves like Rain Dance don't truly change the weather but instead only affect the area the battle is taking place in.

>if Earthquake hit a ton more opponents the damage spread over a billion lions would be microscopic

That's a concession for gameplay balance, not something you're supposed to take literally. There's no reason why more targets would cause each individual target to take less damage.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:19:30 No.53517155 Report

Quoted By: >>53517297

>>53517137
The games are games with limitations. They can't account for every possible variable in a battle. If you want to use any official source, you need to use ones that don't have the limitations that the games have.

The only way your argument makes any sense if the Pokemon are doing what they sometimes do in the anime when using biting moves, where they manifest some energy in the shape of a fangs and bite with that instead of their actual teeth.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:19:36 No.53517156 Report

Quoted By: >>53518195

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:32:20 No.53517223 Report

Quoted By:

>>53517137
Lol good bait
But the sad thing is some people really are this stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:38:58 No.53517280 Report

Quoted By:

the main issue is lack of solid rules

are we using anime logic? game logic? or a realish world logic?

are we accounting the dex and taking it litteraly? if so the legendaries alone would wipe

is pp a real thing or an abstraction of stamina?

wtf do spread moves do with this many combatants?

since no one can agree on these points its hard to have a real argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 18:41:02 No.53517297 Report

Quoted By:

>>53517140
>Like how moves like Rain Dance don't truly change the weather
Right, which is why the legendary whose ability is 'auto-permanent Rain Dance' was only actually changing the entire weather.
>Pokemon can determine the scope of their attacks (which you outright said)
>The power of a move is dependent on its scope, which means that when a Pokemon hits beyond a localizaed area the power of the attack becomes weaker
>UMMM AKSHUALLY ISS GAMEPLAY BALANCE
If I may ask, did you take 'special' classes as a child?
>>53517155
>If you want to use a source, you need to use a source that's completely separate from what we're actually discussing
Based retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 19:41:44 No.53517649 Report

Quoted By:

>>53513115
Jesus the Lion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 19:44:42 No.53517672 Report

Quoted By:

>>53514600
Great, now they're sealions.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:01:07 No.53517776 Report

Quoted By: >>53517788

How do the lions counter moves like Psychic? A lion has no defense against telekinesis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:02:48 No.53517788 Report

Quoted By: >>53517790

>>53517776
Psychic only hits on enemy.
There's a lot of lions. Like...A LOT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:04:06 No.53517790 Report

Quoted By: >>53517844

>>53517788
Nope, they can lift multiple targets

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:07:08 No.53517814 Report

Quoted By: >>53517844 >>53517944

Game rules and Lions win.
Game lore and Pokemon win.
Anime rules and Pokemon win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:09:54 No.53517840 Report

Quoted By:

Early on, the lions kill most of the Pokemon while sustaining a few thousand in casualties.
The hold out Pokemon can whittle away the rest if Stamina permits, so it depends on the battlefield. If resting (not the move, the actual act) isn't permitted, they will succumb to sleep deprivation and ultimately be consumed by the lion horde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:10:37 No.53517844 Report

Quoted By: >>53517960

>>53517790
Psychic is a single targeting move dumbass
>>53517814
Good thing game lore is nonsense and the tranime is noncanon, so you can just write your post as 'lions win'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:11:40 No.53517850 Report

Quoted By:

>>53516141
You're missing the point
>>53515497
They're lions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:11:47 No.53517851 Report

Quoted By: >>53517864

When yveltal dies it takes out everything with it. It's a tie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:14:09 No.53517864 Report

Quoted By:

>>53517851
Chance that lions kill every Pokemon before Yveltal: small, but possible
Chance that Pokemons defeat the lions: zero
Therefore the lions have infinitely more of a chance to win

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:15:31 No.53517869 Report

Quoted By:

The Lions definitely have most Pokemon in the bag, but aren't some Pokemon literal bullshit? Can Arceus or Giratina be properly powerscaled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:18:54 No.53517891 Report

Quoted By: >>53517917

A lion can't hit a ghost type. One Gengar could kill all of the Lions given enough time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:22:39 No.53517917 Report

Quoted By: >>53517970

>>53517891
>Lion used Bite!
>It's super effective!
Nice ghost type kiddo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:23:22 No.53517920 Report

Quoted By:

>>53515587
Since the lions aren't with a trainer they'd be a horde all at once, otherwise it's not fighting that many lions. Therefore you could take them out with perish song.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:28:39 No.53517944 Report

Quoted By:

>>53517814
Actually, the game rules are more bullshit.
In anime canon if say, Electrode and Voltob use self destruct, they'll have a sane radius. In game mechanical logic, if they both use self destruct, all the lions will instantly die (100% accuracy).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:32:35 No.53517960 Report

Quoted By: >>53517984

>>53517844
The anime is literally how Pokemon battles really work, friendo. Sorry your autism can't handle reality, but lore and anime always trump game mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:34:27 No.53517970 Report

Quoted By: >>53518003 >>53518824

>>53517917
Lions aren't Pokemon. They can't use moves, therefore they can't use Bite. They CAN bite, but that's not the same as the actual move Bite. It'd either deal typeless damage, or the ghost Pokemon would phase through it.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:36:42 No.53517984 Report

Quoted By: >>53518151

>>53517960
>The anime is literally how Pokemon battles really work
Ah, yeah....I remember when in a double battle once my Pikachu used Thunder on my Swellow and suddenly they became super saiyan, anime really is incredibly realistic and accurate huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:37:23 No.53517986 Report

Quoted By: >>53518010

I can't think of a scenario where the lions could win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:39:42 No.53518003 Report

Quoted By: >>53518024

>>53517970
But by this logic, ghosts are only able to phase through Pokemon moves because they're of a certain type, not because of the action associated with the move. So since lions have no type associated with their bite the ghosts still get BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:41:28 No.53518010 Report

Quoted By: >>53518023 >>53518026

>>53517986
Only feasible scenario is if the trainer misplays. In other words, if the trainer only selects single target damage moves for all the Pokemon, and all the pokemon that outspeed a lion KO one lion, and then the remaining 999,XXX Lions each attack a Pokemon, they win. But it would require essentially hundreds of misplays. Possible, but essentially retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:43:58 No.53518023 Report

Quoted By: >>53518039

>>53518010
>trainer has to issue a single command to a single Pokemon one at a time
>lions who are not retards and need someone to coordinate their actions can just dogpile and kill the Pokeshits all at once
Seems like an easy win for lions to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:44:01 No.53518024 Report

Quoted By: >>53518038

>>53518003
that's what he just said

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:44:09 No.53518026 Report

Quoted By:

>>53518010
Who the fuck said anything about trainers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:45:20 No.53518038 Report

Quoted By:

>>53518024
He left open the possibility ghosts could phase through the bites, when that's patently not the case by what he's saying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:45:45 No.53518039 Report

Quoted By: >>53518096

>>53518023
I was just trying to help out the Lions.
If we're not doing game canon then Celibi kills the genetic birthpoint of lions in the past and the lions vanish, never to have existed or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:51:39 No.53518068 Report

Quoted By: >>53518117 >>53518129

Actually, if we use game mechanics, a player would have to wait for one billion seconds per intimidate, meaning 30 years per intimidate. The Lions stalemate by pure attrition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:55:50 No.53518096 Report

Quoted By: >>53518103

>>53518039
The Celebi would just get killed by the billion mothers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:57:02 No.53518103 Report

Quoted By:

>>53518096
You don't understand. Celebi can go back in time whereever. She can stop the genetic lineage of all Lions from the source. The very first Lion born out of the thing that gave birth to the very first one. It's like if you killed Gengis Khan as a baby and suddenly half of China disappears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 20:59:01 No.53518117 Report

Quoted By:

>>53518068
This is why trying to use mechanics is stupid. Use "realistic" canon which places Pokedex lore as tier 1, Anime and Manga as tier 2. Otherwise you have stupid shit like this or one surf/earthquake killing all the lions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 21:00:41 No.53518129 Report

Quoted By:

>>53518068
>OK Google how long do lions live

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 21:04:06 No.53518151 Report

Quoted By:

>>53517984
Nice circular logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 21:05:26 No.53518162 Report

Quoted By:

>>53512652
Arceus solos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 21:06:00 No.53518163 Report

Quoted By: >>53518249

There are approximately 8 billion people on earth, fact.
Pokemon have been shown to be capable of bringing about the apocalypse, fact.
One billion lions are less that the population of one planet, fact.
Thus, Pokemon win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 21:12:22 No.53518195 Report

Quoted By: >>53518208

>>53517156
Pokefags literally cannot refute this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 21:13:23 No.53518208 Report

Quoted By:

>>53518195
what if Lugia flies higher

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 21:18:09 No.53518249 Report

Quoted By: >>53520956

>>53518163
When has any Pokemon succeeded in bringing about the apocalypse?
A billion lions would pretty easily bring about the apocalypse as well if they just marched on major world capitals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 22:00:21 No.53518518 Report

Quoted By: >>53518577

>>53512652
For the millionth time? Sure, fine.
A billion lions, though numerous, don't have super powers. While one of every Pokemon would also include literal gods.
Pokemon win.
EVERY TIME
Now fuck off!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 22:08:54 No.53518577 Report

Quoted By: >>53518836 >>53521745

>>53518518
>A billion lions, though numerous, don't have super powers
>pokeshit shoots its piddly beam and kills one lion before getting dogpiled and killed by 300 more
Yeah, what helpful superpowers.

>include literal gods
In several video game franchises you can kill gods by just being a random strong guy with a sword and shield and some good reflexes. Pokemon probably isn't any different given that kids have outright beaten up the top gods of the universe by throwing some shit at them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 22:43:54 No.53518824 Report

Quoted By:

>>53517970
Well if it's dealing typeless damage then it would damage ghosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 22:47:20 No.53518836 Report

Quoted By: >>53518887

>>53518577
Why are you even on a Pokemon board if you're not a Pokemon fan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2023 22:54:10 No.53518887 Report

Quoted By:

>>53518836
Because I'm in a lion thread and I'm a lion fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 00:00:54 No.53519350 Report

Quoted By:

>>53516363
no you need to be underground

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 03:52:00 No.53520666 Report

Quoted By:

>creates 1 billion counter lions in your path

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 04:07:34 No.53520740 Report

Quoted By: >>53520938

>>53512652
>>53513493
Here is the better question.
How long does "Team Victims" last against Brock Sampson, Saxton Hale, and Theodore Roosevelt teaming up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 04:52:46 No.53520938 Report

Quoted By:

>>53520740
Brock Sampson, Saxton Hale, and Theodore Roosevelt would only last 15 minutes tops.
However, Chuck Norris could easily defeat both teams combined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 04:57:53 No.53520952 Report

Quoted By:

>>53515024
Lions can't jump to skyscraper heights meanwhile flying pokemon can cause tornados and hurricanes

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 04:58:30 No.53520956 Report

Quoted By:

>>53518249
Pikachu and Charizard did, but Eternatus stopped it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 05:00:19 No.53520970 Report

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>>53516069
Stall fags are literally the worst

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 09:15:01 No.53521745 Report

Quoted By: >>53522785

>>53518577
My god, you're retarded. Giratina will literally cancel out anything it touches. It doesn't even have to do anything. Just sit there and watch them fizzle out of existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 09:20:25 No.53521756 Report

Quoted By:

>>53512652
jews

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 09:38:31 No.53521807 Report

Quoted By:

>>53514810
Torterra

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 13:08:19 No.53522492 Report

Quoted By:

>>53513115
Jesus for religius furries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 13:16:40 No.53522526 Report

Quoted By:

>>53516030
ENTER FUNBRO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 14:07:09 No.53522755 Report

Quoted By: >>53523388 >>53523451 >>53523591 >>53523613 >>53523680

a billion lions weighs nearly 200 billion kilograms
To try and get some perspective, that's a thousand aircraft carriers, or about 10% of the weight of all the mass ejected by Mt St Helens.

Now if you want to keep your lions alive, this means spreading them out.
A lion is 3m long and about half a meter wide, so 1.5m^2 area.
Conveniently, earth's total land area is about 1.5X10^8 m^2
This is... unfortunately, 100 times lower than the number of lions we have to place.
This means we're stacking the lions in piles 100 lions high.

Unfortunately, adult lions weigh ~200kg
Even more unfortunately, their spines are particularly weak to pressure applied at a perpendicular angle - such as one might experience from a pile of 100 lions balanced on top of you.
We said we'd need to spread them out to keep them alive. Unfortunately... this doesn't actually save most of them....

The summary of the above is that before the first pokemon even moves, the earth is momentarily deafened by the abhorent crunch of around 80% of our billion lions being permanently disabled. Lions at the bottom are barely recognizable while those closer to the top may limply writhe in pain beneath the surviving lions above them.

The stage now set, the pokemon face off against a few hundred million lions, demoralized atop literal mountains of their mutilated comrades.

Now we could use the oceans as well - lions are known to be strong swimmers - unfortunately, this ends up with a similar end-result as swimming tends to be difficult with dozens of other lions balanced on your shoulders.

It should also be mentioned that severel hundred million rotting lions would significantly worsen global warming predictions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 14:13:27 No.53522785 Report

Quoted By:

>>53521745
Right because that's what happens when the player fights an enraged Giratina who has every reason to kill them in Platinum, what happens when Volo who's literally trying to destroy the world fights you with Giratina.
Kys Poketard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 15:06:42 No.53523020 Report

Quoted By:

>>53514902
>it took Kyogre ages
In what universe? The player goes to Sootopolis maybe 5 minutes after it starts raining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 15:58:06 No.53523314 Report

Quoted By:

>>53512652
>oversized cats vs God
Hmmm hmmm hmmmmmmmmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 15:59:31 No.53523325 Report

Quoted By:

>>53513298
God>Jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:04:48 No.53523370 Report

Quoted By: >>53523451

>>53517137
>gameplay is canon
This applies to exactly 0 franchises

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:07:59 No.53523388 Report

Quoted By: >>53523451

>>53522755
Lionbros our response?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:20:14 No.53523451 Report

Quoted By: >>53523476

>>53523370
Name one (1) franchise where the story has more relevance than the gameplay
99% of the time story also is gameplay you fucking retard.
>>53522755
>>53523388
>DUDE...LE MATH AND SOIENCE LMAO....TRUST LE FAUCI
Here's some math for you nigger:
1 billion >>>> 1000, lions eat pokeshit for lunch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:24:18 No.53523476 Report

Quoted By:

>>53523451
>lions eat pokeshit
You've said it

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:38:15 No.53523567 Report

Quoted By: >>53523619

>opens a portal to the inside of the sun
>annihilates all of the lions, all of the other pokemon, and most of the earth
haha whoopsie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:43:10 No.53523591 Report

Quoted By:

>>53522755
>Conveniently, earth's total land area is about 1.5X10^8 m^2
l-lol?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:45:58 No.53523613 Report

Quoted By:

>>53522755
I don't get it. Can you express this in football fields please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:46:36 No.53523619 Report

Quoted By:

>>53523567
>too many lions
>they block the entry of the portal
>portal can't do shit anymore
Checkmate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:52:19 No.53523655 Report

Quoted By:

>>53512652
1 billion lions is too much just for 1000 pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:55:51 No.53523680 Report

Quoted By:

>>53522755
>Conveniently, earth's total land area is about 1.5X10^8 m^2
dude you fucked up massively
check your shit

r = 6371000 m
SA = 4 * pi * r^2
SA = 5.1006 * 10^14

land area ~ 30% of the total: 1.5e+14

oopsies, you are off by a factor of a million!
forgot to convert km somewhere?

you should have realized that humans are not that much smaller than lions, and yet there are 8 billion of us with plenty of room to spare

If I were grading you, you'd fail.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2023 16:57:55 No.53523696 Report

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>oopsies, you are off by a factor of a million!
>forgot to convert km somewhere?
>you should have realized that humans are not that much smaller than lions, and yet there are 8 billion of us with plenty of room to spare
>If I were grading you, you'd fail.

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