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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:14:48 No.53693940 View View Reply Original Report

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From a lore perspective, game makes most sense? Which Pokémon makes the most sense for N to have?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:16:58 No.53693954 Report

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>>53693940
Zekrom cause ideals

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:18:20 No.53693961 Report

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>>53693940
I like N getting Reshiram. I think it makes more sense for N to seek truth more than ideal. Zekrom, the one representing ideal, makes sense for Ghetsis to want to me.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:19:33 No.53693964 Report

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>>53693940
The whole point is that it could be either of the two but i like him with Zekrom

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:21:09 No.53693975 Report

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Zekrom, 100%. N is following his vision of an Ideal world where Pokemon aren't owned and don't battle, and the game insists that Pokemon generally like being trained and battling so it's simply not Truth that he's fighting for. I could see him THINKING that he's fighting for the Truth that the public refuses to accept, but he's not.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:21:24 No.53693979 Report

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It feels like Black was created just so they can have a second version, that version doesn’t really make sense

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:22:40 No.53693994 Report

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>>53693940
Reshiram juat because I picked Zekrom

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:25:12 No.53694005 Report

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>>53693979
>It feels like White was created just so they can have a second version, that version doesn’t really make sense

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 22:43:56 No.53694104 Report

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>>53693940
zekrom

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 23:06:46 No.53694211 Report

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>>53693979
Black gives him the dragon of ideals, White's where he gets Resh but it still works. Despite being on a far smaller scale than he thinks, it's true that Pokemon abuse is going to happen and that some percentage of them are better off separate from humans. It's like those arguments for products to be banned because they have an infinitesimal but proven chance of causing cancer.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 23:43:33 No.53694447 Report

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>>53693940
N reshiram, Hilbert Zekrom will always be the correct answer

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 23:48:53 No.53694483 Report

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>>53694447
Wrong.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Apr 2023 23:56:41 No.53694536 Report

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>>53693940
White makes more sense. N's reality is based on a life, but he believes he is using the dragon to prove the "truth", that humans shouldn't use pokemon because it does more harm than good. Through the game, the player shows N that it isn't that simple, and in the end they use Zekrom to show him their hope for a world where pokemon and humans work together.
The other version doesn't work as well IMO, because N's whole thing is that he's meant to be doing what he thinks is needed to help people. The player taking the truth dragon is irrelevant to that.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 00:14:36 No.53694678 Report

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>>53694536
The dragons are the embodiment of truth and ideals. There's no "N thinks he's right, so it works", he's objectively wrong in both versions. People just don't want to admit they picked the non-canon edition of the story.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 00:19:45 No.53694711 Report

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>>53693940
neither actually works because he's not following truth then realizing ideals are just as valid or vice vers: he is following what he THINK is the truth, then simply realizes he was wrong the whole time. Ideals have nothing to do with it

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 00:22:06 No.53694727 Report

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>>53694711
>he is following what he THINK
>Ideals have nothing to do with it

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 02:14:29 No.53695311 Report

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>>53694678
That was my point. N believes he is right, but he isn't, which is why he loses.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 02:54:14 No.53695536 Report

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>>53694447
/thread

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 02:58:43 No.53695557 Report

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>>53693940
Manga settled this years ago >>53694483

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 03:42:13 No.53695754 Report

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Reshiram because they both have fluffy hair and blue eyes.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 06:36:29 No.53696371 Report

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>>53694483
>>53695557

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 07:01:48 No.53696426 Report

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Black version
>N constantly talks about Ideals and formulas while rejecting the truth that's in front him throughout his journey (he admits to this at the end)
>N's favorite place is Chargestone Cave, a place filled with blue electricity.
>Calls the same cave a Ideal place for pokemon, if it weren't for humans interfering.
>Dark Stone would be sealed in Dragonspiral Tower around a snowy environment (Ice being supereffective against Zekrom, unlike Reshiram)
>Light Stone would normally be sealed in Relic Castle deep underground (Ground being supereffective against Reshiram)
>Hero gets Light Stone with Angelic-looking pokemon while Antagonist gets Dark Stone with Demonic-looking pokemon

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 07:44:21 No.53696537 Report

Quoted By: >>53696689 >>53697029

>>53694447
>Hilbert
>Canon
Tell me about how that ferris wheel ride looked like in your mind.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 07:46:04 No.53696548 Report

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>>53694678
>The dragons are the embodiment of truth and ideals.
Proof?

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 08:34:31 No.53696689 Report

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>>53696537
>Tell me about how that ferris wheel ride looked like in your mind
With N sitting on Hilbert's lap.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 08:56:46 No.53696764 Report

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>>53693940
Gen 3
>Embodiments of Earth, Sea, and Sky
Gen 4
>Embodiments of Time, Space, and Anti-Matter
Gen 6
>Embodiments of Life, Death, and Order
Gen 7
>Embodiments of the the Sun, Moon, and Light
Gen 8
>Noble warriors of legend, blessed with sacred weapons
Gen 9
>Powerful creatures, wrought from either the deepest depths of a brilliant mind or the actual past and future
Gen 5
>Lol this one tells the truth and this one has ideas

Reshiram and Zekrom are so lame. Imagine being cucked by a random pair of lizards. Reshiram better count its blessings they didn’t have Koraidon as Dragon/Fire.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 09:53:43 No.53696915 Report

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>>53696764
>Gen 9
>>Powerful creatures, wrought from either the deepest depths of a brilliant mind or the actual past and future
Way to oversell some bike lizards.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 10:03:43 No.53696951 Report

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Zekrom imo.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 10:05:01 No.53696955 Report

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>>53696764
You're trying really hard this time, discordloser.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 10:10:15 No.53696965 Report

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>>53694483
N getting Zekrom in the manga is moreso because Reshiram fit the MC better.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 10:10:51 No.53696967 Report

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>>53696965
>because Reshiram fit the MC better
which is also the case in the main series

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 10:12:54 No.53696978 Report

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>>53696967
The game mc is blank slate, you can fit whatever you want.
Hell, N outright says as much in the Chargestone cave encounter.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 10:18:24 No.53696987 Report

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>>53693940
Aesthetically he looks best with reshiram, but zekrom fits for lore

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 10:38:29 No.53697029 Report

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>>53696537
The girl avatars are never canon friend. If you used them as part of exploring your sexuality or gender orientation as a child, fair enough. But the basic story of Pokémon was "a young boy collecting creatures in his Region" and Japan is both traditionalist and misogynistic to perpetuate this ethos, regardless of the evolution of the world outside their borders.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 10:40:26 No.53697035 Report

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>>53696978
Which is why you refer to the villain's motives and arguments for his actions to determine what box legend fits him.
And that STILL ends up being Zekrom, because he has a child-like, idealistic view of the world around him.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 11:11:58 No.53697121 Report

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>>53693940
Both work, Whichever dragon N has isn't vital to the story, because it doesn't matter if he is speaking an objective truth or promoting an idealistic worldview. All that mattered was N stirring the pot and creating division (and using either dragon to "validate" his voice in the eyes of the public), which Team Plasma/Ghetsis would exploit to take over the world. The overall message of Black and White is about compromise and not letting differences divide people; the whole lore of Reshiram and Zekrom is about two brothers falling out over their worldviews and causing a pokemon to be split apart in the process,

>It's not always black and white, But your heart always knows what's right.

But also it's probably Zekrom. N was fighting for an ideal even if he honestly believed that it was the truth (because Ghetsis fostered him into believing it so by isolating him from the rest of the world and making sure he was only exposed to pokemon that were treated poorly). Also from an aesthetic standpoint, Zekrom also works better as the antagonist as opposed to Reshiram.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 15:31:29 No.53698033 Report

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Zekrom

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Anonymous Tue 25 Apr 2023 20:23:46 No.53699587 Report

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>>53693940
Based game

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Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 00:32:44 No.53700770 Report

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>>53699587
No, you must hate it because discordfags and genwunners who never played any games hate it!

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Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 00:38:12 No.53700796 Report

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>>53695754
>colorblind

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Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 04:57:29 No.53701895 Report

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>>53700796
kek

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Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 12:28:48 No.53702768 Report

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Pokemon lore is deep, man

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Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 12:30:17 No.53702770 Report

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>>53693940
Zekrom because of the N word

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Anonymous Wed 26 Apr 2023 16:19:02 No.53703331 Report

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White doesn't really make sense

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