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Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:00:59 No.53729143 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>53729150 >>53729164 >>53729357 >>53729368 >>53729607 >>53729894 >>53730237 >>53730868 >>53730919

Why even bother making a new gimmick thats only going to be removed the next generation? I get that they want each generation to be unique but why not just expand upon a feature rather than remove it for the next games? Why waste all of that time and productivity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:02:37 No.53729150 Report

Quoted By: >>53729477

>>53729143
To give CHARIZARD flashy new overpowered special snowflake super saiyan forms for normies to ooh and aah at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:03:08 No.53729155 Report

Quoted By: >>53729171 >>53729523

Because expanding gimmicks and having them all at once would be a giant clusterfuck of balance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:08:35 No.53729164 Report

Quoted By: >>53729523

>>53729143
They only thing they care about anymore is money, and adding a unique gimmick to keep players coming back/new players interested makes money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:11:00 No.53729171 Report

Quoted By: >>53729759

>>53729155
Why not at least have the previous gimmick to remind people that the last gen wasn't that far off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:10:14 No.53729357 Report

Quoted By: >>53729523

>>53729143
Is this a fake-volution or have GF revealed some new gimmick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:13:14 No.53729368 Report

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>>53729143
Can't get enough of Pokémon that train their muscles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:31:23 No.53729477 Report

Quoted By: >>53729521 >>53729728

>>53729150
Also eevee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:40:07 No.53729521 Report

Quoted By: >>53729556

>>53729477
It has been almost 20 years since the last eevolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:40:17 No.53729523 Report

Quoted By: >>53729705 >>53729768

>>53729155
If balanced right, it could work. They have to stop adding new gimmicks at some point or else you'll get gimmicks that's a past gimmick, but reskinned- Oh wait. What were they thinking with Bond Phenomenon!?
>>53729164
But adding a new gimmick and throwing out the old one every time leads to the audience having minimal attachment to the gimmick if it's only going to last a certain amount of time and number of games.
>>53729357
That's a fake Mega Machamp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:48:23 No.53729556 Report

Quoted By: >>53729558

>>53729521
Sylveon was 10 years ago, gen 6
Eevee got its own Z-move in gen 7
Eevee gets its own gigantimax form in gen 8
It gets the same special treatment as charizard, but only charizard is seen as problematic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:49:15 No.53729558 Report

Quoted By: >>53729567

>>53729556
I completely forgot about sylveon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:51:41 No.53729567 Report

Quoted By: >>53729585

>>53729558
no wonder since GF keep dexcuting it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:57:02 No.53729585 Report

Quoted By: >>53729924

>>53729567
>dexcut
>obtainable in XY
>obtainable in SMUSUM
>obtainable in the wild in SwSh
>only non-obtainable eeveelution in BDSP
>obtainable in the wild in PLA
>obtainable in the wild in SV
Eevee and its 8 retard cousins will never not be in the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 16:04:44 No.53729607 Report

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>>53729143
You answered your own question

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 16:28:22 No.53729705 Report

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>>53729523
>But adding a new gimmick and throwing out the old one every time leads to the audience having minimal attachment to the gimmick if it's only going to last a certain amount of time and number of games.
Gimmicks are like a shiny new toy they can show off when advertising the games. Idk if they actually need them but that's the mindset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 16:32:41 No.53729728 Report

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They can't make good game anymore, so they need shitty gimmick to people soiface over
>>53729477
This, I'm starting to deslike Evee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 16:38:41 No.53729759 Report

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>>53729171
So a seasonal rotation like TCGs? Gen 7 you get Megas + Z moves, Gen 8 you get Z Moves + Dynamax, Gen 9 you get Dynamax + Tera? That's a cool concept actually. I wouldn't if the Pokedex worked that way, now that dex cuts are the norm. It'd be better than we have it now, where favoritism and VGC autism means we'll always bring back Charizard and the Genies while plenty of fun but overshadowed Pokemon are one-and-done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 16:39:59 No.53729768 Report

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>>53729523
>But adding a new gimmick and throwing out the old one every time leads to the audience having minimal attachment to the gimmick if it's only going to last a certain amount of time and number of games.

GF doesn't care about the gimmicks either. They're completely afraid to tamper with the core mechanics so this is their way of changing things up superficially. This series is not built for long term cohesion (anymore), they only think about what looks flashy right now and by the time today's consumers realize how shallow and empty it is, the new generation of consumers have bought in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 16:44:56 No.53729784 Report

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As someone who thinks XY are undercooked games I think Mega Evolution was one of the few things done right in Gen 6. It could have been expanded more but instead they did Z moves which feels like something that was a runner up gimmick for Gen 6 and then they went full retard with Gigantamax. Tera Type on the other hand is actually solid though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:07:41 No.53729894 Report

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>>53729143
Why even bother playing pokemon games? You’re just going to die eventually anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:11:12 No.53729906 Report

Quoted By: >>53729939

Why even bother making new regions? They’re just going to get removed the next generation. Why not just stick with Kanto and keep expanding it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:17:44 No.53729924 Report

Quoted By: >>53729999 >>53730105

>>53729585
>ignoring lgpe as to not lose his argument
cope. It’s also getting cut in the inevitable bw remake.
biggest
eeveelution
flop

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:21:05 No.53729939 Report

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>>53729906
You joke, but there's definitely people who's dream scenario would be continuing gen 2's work of extending the game world, which wouldn't actually be that difficult in data-compression terms given that the GBA had 32 mb cartridges so you could literally combine FRLG and Emerald and still double the content.

Could easily manage five generations of that before needing to leave Japan, and possibly six depending on parsing of the Kanto-Sinnoh gap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:37:04 No.53729999 Report

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>>53729924
Based BW relieving us from charizard shilling. Truly the best games in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:59:13 No.53730105 Report

Quoted By: >>53730134 >>53730267

>>53729924
Remakes literally don't count in regards to dex bitching, you're not supposed to be able to get new Pokemon in old games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 18:05:27 No.53730134 Report

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>>53730105
What is FRLG postgame?
What is HGSS?
What is ORAS?
What are Megas and Alolans in LGPE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 18:25:25 No.53730237 Report

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>>53729143
They have to introduce a new gimmick every gen for marketing purposes. Although mega evolutions are by far the most popular gimmick, my kid nephew is still obsessed with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 18:31:06 No.53730267 Report

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>>53730105
>d-doaent count
oméga cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 20:44:35 No.53730868 Report

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>>53729143
I think the only thing that would prevail onto generations is a functional feature that blends with the gameplay permanently like the physical/special separation from gen4, which I think was necessary.
I think pokemon peaked at that aspect so there is no way to have a new substantially different mechanic that will last forever.

All we have left is being innovative with new abilities, items and moves. Things like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 20:54:10 No.53730919 Report

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>>53729143
Game Freak is incapable of making a mainline Pokemon game even slightly different from the previous one, especially with a 3 year development cycle, so they have to come up with gimmicks to make a new generation stand out from the last.

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