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>>53806567
Y nuzlocke update:
- Bille the heracross and Sprutte defeated grass gym ezpz
- No problems with the Flare hideout
- After a bit of grinding, I got a chesnaught for the first time ever! I thought he would absolutely roll the electric gym, but forgot that he's now 4x weak to flying, so i had to shift him out with Sprutte when Emolga was sent out.
Also, i still can't believe that my shiny minun is still alive. He now knows thunderbolt so he's actually not that useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 May 2023 21:34:25 No.53811311 Report

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>>53811306
whoops, i meant Horn the heracross. Got my bugs confused.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 May 2023 22:33:26 No.53811522 Report

Quoted By: >>53811663 >>53812347

Platinum Nuz Update:

Replaced Staravia with Zubat and am currently training him up as I reached Pastoria. Fought the rival and now I'm gunna explore around before I train to Level 37.

Chimecho seems to be doing alright for now. Had Psychic and Levitate so it'll fit in well with Graveller. I've got it set so Trade Evos evolve without trading but don't know when Graveller will change to Golem. Honestly surprised the speedy rocky fucker has lived so long with his quick claw luck...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 May 2023 23:03:27 No.53811663 Report

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>>53811522
Graveler will evolve at 37

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 01:41:22 No.53812347 Report

Quoted By: >>53847873

Finally, a gym battle that made me sweat a little.
>Salvador leads and Thunderbolts Sigilyph to one hp
>Go for Psychic, forgetting hyper potions exist and Sigilyph can get off light screen before going down
>Meowstic is next, Salvador Thunderbolts and survives a Shadow Ball thanks to an earlier light screen, switching into Firestar who fails to ko with Crunch
>Olympia then wastes a turn healing and Meowstic goes down to two Flamethrower
>Shelly gets an Ellen Ripley moment, switching into a yawn from Slowking and sets up Lucky Chant
>Turns go back and forth as Calm Mind and Psychic take their toll on Shelly, leaving me with little other choice bu Loretta
>Loretta tanks a Psychic and Digs, missing the kill by one hp
>Slowking uses yawn, and Loretta can end the battle with Return
It took seven gyms, but i finally got my challenging gym battle. Character arcs are settled, unsubtle villains are revealed, and threads are bumped. Such is life on 4chan.
>>53810792
We could always do regional birds and rodents.
>>53810860
No, but Legends is a side game.
>>53811306
You are blazing through Kalos! Might even get done before me.
>>53811522
Graveler can be a good team member, its got defense to spare. Especially in HG, i've used it every run (which also inspired my current series wide champions clause).

WedlockeAnon

WedlockeAnon Wed 17 May 2023 04:35:13 No.53812984 Report

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>>53757264
HeartGold wedlocke update. The run is going smoothly. No image because the team is exactly the same besides levels.

>Pryce
Cheesecake T-Bolted Seel and Dewgong, followed by Focus Blasting Piloswine.

>Silver 4
Milkshake Ice Beams Golbat, Tetrazzini comes in on Magnemite, who gets Low Kicked. Haunter goes down to a Feint Attack, Quilava to a Rock Slide and Sneasel to a Low Kick.

>Jasmine, pretty much every Rocket Fight
Milkshake used Surf and/or Ice Beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 07:12:03 No.53813459 Report

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Night bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 08:24:49 No.53813672 Report

Quoted By: >>53814291 >>53814308

If I were to play a monotype run in SV, and make one slot in a "all-slot" where I have to make a decision that if I want to use the "all-slot", I can go to the closest tera den of my monotype run and I have to take it into my party until the next badge, I can't change my mind after deciding and it doesn't matter what mon it is unless it's a dupe. The "all-slot" mon has to tera on turn 1 on the field, to still be the monotype typing but it can effectively be anything else.

Would this be "cheating" or make for a more interesting run?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 12:30:39 No.53814291 Report

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>>53813672
wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 12:35:46 No.53814308 Report

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>>53813672
chatgpt fingers typed this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 15:22:28 No.53814966 Report

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How would one do a monolocke of SV in terms of encounter rules?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 17:19:37 No.53815534 Report

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>>53814966
Using Pokemon Centers as the 'routes' for one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 20:17:44 No.53816283 Report

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Bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2023 23:28:56 No.53817132 Report

Quoted By: >>53817534 >>53821944 >>53822428

Random Nuzlocke question: how do you feel about trading Pokemon over to a different game to learn a move thry get later (e.g, trading Carnivine to HGSS for Egg Bomb early)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 01:06:38 No.53817534 Report

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>>53817132
It's cheating. You're supposed to work within the limits your game gives you. That's why you don't give yourself rare candies to skip the grind (if you frequent this general. If you've got like a family to raise and a job to do then I don't think anybody would blame you, but I highly highly doubt anyone here does lol) and why I personally don't update base stats or type resistances when given the option in the Ultimate Randomizer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 01:28:50 No.53817603 Report

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For anyone that's done a marathon through the series, how did you decide what games/what order to do?

Specifically, Emerald vs ORAS

storyanon

storyanon Thu 18 May 2023 01:32:24 No.53817614 Report

Quoted By: >>53818477

>>53817603
just decided to do those I liked alongside the one I'd never played
emerald is infinitely better because not only is the soundtrack unbutchered and the graphical style more cohesive, but you don't get handed a legendary halfway through the game and it's actually a fucking challenge

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 06:48:32 No.53818477 Report

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>>53817614
i mean you can just choose to not use it you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 06:48:38 No.53818478 Report

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Night bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 15:05:21 No.53819816 Report

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>>53818478
maybe if your general is not active enough to work without someone outright writing out a "bump" message, maybe it's not good enough to warrant having a general

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 16:38:23 No.53820246 Report

Quoted By: >>53820480 >>53823763

RIP " Speedy " the Graveler

Training him up and for whatever dumb reason kept him on a Roselia who was 11 levels lower.

Magic Leafed.

Speedy survived a Rain Boosted Water Pulse with 1HP and this is how he goes down. He was so close to been a Golem.

Regardless, he was so good with his Quick Claw luck. Saved me too many times.

That now makes three of the OG 6 to perish.

I'm still training for Crasher Wake.
My team is now:

>Infernape
>Roselia
>Gyrados
>Crobat
>Chimecho

I'll find someone from the box after the gym so I'll show my PC to get suggestions once I tackle the gym.

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 17:23:11 No.53820480 Report

Quoted By: >>53820692 >>53821944

>>53820246
Well Crasher Wake was BAD.

Lost Gyrados & Roselia to crits.
That Floatzel is something else.
The Gyrados was also a challenge.

Crobat came in a managed to take down the rest of his team. I'm gutted as I've lost most my team.

I've got Infernape, Crobat and Chimecho.

This is my box. Who should I use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 18:11:18 No.53820692 Report

Quoted By: >>53821316 >>53821944 >>53824189

>>53820480
My opinion is for the following:
Shellos (evolves into a water/ground type for stab earthquake, plus storm drain to protect Infernape in double battles)
Bronzor (only one weakness in gen 4 dependent on its ability, resists most types making for a good switch in)
Chansey (Blissey is a great special tank with a good selection of special moves from TM's)
If that Marill has Huge Power and a good nature, you might consider that intead of Gastrodon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 20:08:51 No.53821316 Report

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>>53820692
Adding to this, Steelix is a good physical wall with decent type coverage, Togekiss gets Aura Sphere from a move relearner, but you have to baby it as Togetic until you get there, and Gengar is always good, i presume you have Haunter and Onix set to evolve the same way Graveler was?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 20:25:26 No.53821401 Report

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>>53810669
How does "first pokémon you encounter on a new route" work in games where you can see them in the overworld?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2023 22:03:09 No.53821944 Report

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>>53817132
I don't see a problem with it, but that kind of situation sounds extremely rare. I wouldn't really see the need to trade for specific moves when TMs exist to provide any extra coverage/power you might need. Egg Bomb on a Carnivine doesn't sound very beneficial to go through all that effort.
>>53819816
If I had to guess, a lot of anons might be occupied with Zelda (like myself) instead of playing Pokemon atm.
>>53820480
Vouch for everything >>53820692 suggested, plus Scizor and Porygon-Z. I think you can get a Metal Coat from Iron Island, then Upgrade is in Galactic Eterna and Dubious Disc in Galactic Veilstone. If you're missing certain coverage, an Eeveelution would be good to fill the last slot.
>>53821401
I've seen a few options: run around with your eyes closed until you get an encounter, put all available encounters in a random generator and pick from that, or go with the first mon in the new area that catches your eye. In SwSh though, there were still grass patches you can use for the random aspect and just ignore the overworld mons.

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Ronja Thu 18 May 2023 23:52:43 No.53822428 Report

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Just a quick little update in between work and the new Zelda; took down all of Team Magma in their hideout and hightailed it over to Mossdeep to do the same to Tate and Liza. Passion and Zanzibaa took out Lunatone turn one with a combined Dragonbreath and Crunch, Solrock trying to charge up a Solarbeam, but falling to the same combo just one turn later. I've kept Pop Off Sis from evolving for now since I want him to learn Sky Uppercut, Combusken getting it at 50 compared to Blaziken who gets it at 59. It's less reliable than Brick Break (who he'd have no competition for when it comes to getting the TM), but is also less powerful, I can still remember missing out on KOs running Brick Break and I'd rather avoid that

>>53817132
I considered doing that with Corphish since Crawdaunt only gets Crunch in FRLG in gen 3 (which, can we just acknowledge, is absolute horseshit?), but I'd have to basically speedrun through either FireRed or LeafGreen to get the Ruby and Sapphire at the end of the game to be able to trade with RSE, so Corphish is benched as an idea until at least Emerald I really, really wanted to catch one and name it Rock Lobster, as a friend for Love Shack

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 05:32:47 No.53823763 Report

Quoted By: >>53827425

Vs Lysandre:
Salvador leads against Mienshao, oneshotting with Psychic. Pyroar is next, set up Light Screen because the first Lysandre battle Fire Blast crit leaving Salvador on 1 HP, FB misses, set up Reflect and heal, two shot Pyroar with Psychic.
Honchkrow emerges, one shot with zap plate boosted Thunderbolt. Gyarados comes out, Reflect goes back up, heal again, Thunderbolt does just enough to two shot.
The only thing i was worried about was Gyarados since i knew it was only one shot before thanks to its duel typing, and i'm not confident Salvador could have tanked Aqua Tail without Reflect. If it had come to it, Xerneas would have probably done as good a job, but i'm glad it didn't.
>>53820246
I've already posted my take, but i don't wanna seem like i'm ignoring you.
>>53821944
Just for Carnivine specifically, Egg Bomb provides better power than Vine Whip and better accuracy than Power Whip while also coming much sooner (in this scenario). It is a lot of work though.
>>53822428
And i thought waiting for Flamethrower and Crunch were taking forever, that's about endgame. You know what else is stupid? Seviper, the pokemon with a knife for a tail, can't learn Cut, but Tenticool can.
That's why, if you think of it, you set it up ahead of time.

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 07:35:09 No.53823976 Report

Quoted By: >>53825393

HGSS am now prepping for elite 4. Pic related. Does anybody know how gen 4 switch AI works against poliwrath when lance has a charizard and an aerodactyl left over? Both have super effective moves including stab (Zard has air slash, aerodactyl has aerial ace and thunderfang) and both have equal type chart matchups.
Does the AI go in party order (zard), pick the highest base power move (zard), calc the moves (aero), choose the mon with most supereffective moves (earo), or choose random?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 09:23:31 No.53824189 Report

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>>53820692
>>53821316
>>53821944

Thanks for all the advice. I grabbed Eeevee and made it a Vaporeon just for having a bulky water type. Porygon2 was great before it died to a crit whilst training. Crits & Giggles.

I'm thinking maybe Steelix perhaps? I'm on my way to Celestic Town so yeah. I wanna see who I can catch around the next few major cities and places.

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 10:34:01 No.53824396 Report

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>>53824189
I wiped.

On my way to Celestic Town I encountered a Double Ace Trainer Battle that swept me.

Honestly for my first proper run of Platinum I'm proud of where I got to. I made stupid mistakes but also learnt a lot about the game.

I'll probably try again soon but thanks to all the anons who gave my ideas and suggestions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 15:41:37 No.53825393 Report

Quoted By: >>53825464

>>53823976
This is only a guess, but i think Charizard would come out first for multiple reasons, Air Slash is more powerful, Poliwrath is slightly weaker to special attacks, Charizard is slightly stronger in special attack than Aerodactyl is in attack. I could be wrong though, the ai might decide outspeeding and not missing is more important.
>>53824396
The Raichu/Gyarados double battle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 16:03:18 No.53825464 Report

Quoted By: >>53825966

>>53825393
Yup. It caught me off guard massively compared to the trainers before it. ( Ninja Trio )

I had no reliable switch in's so my main team got wiped easily as well with the crits.

I'll be starting a new run with Piplup as my starter. Hope I've got some new knowledge for my next run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 17:59:21 No.53825966 Report

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>>53825464
Yeah, that one's pretty rough. It doesn't help they upoed their levels by nine from DP to Platinum. Well, good luck with your new run.

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 18:36:29 No.53826118 Report

Quoted By: >>53827425 >>53827971 >>53830040 >>53836511 >>53837578

>>53811306
Y Nuz update:
Padde the blastoise rolled the fairy gym along with
Sprutte the Malamar, who pretty much slo'd the psychic gym. I love him so much he's so crazy.
Bille the Vivillion died, but i honestly don't remember how. I just instantly replaced him with based Mammut the Mamoswine. Otherwise not that many issues. Frost cave has a lot of run-enders, but i've played gen 6 enough to know which trainers to watch out for, so i went through it unscathed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 19:35:12 No.53826448 Report

Quoted By: >>53826488 >>53827425 >>53830064

are the glory days of nuzlocke over? seems like nuzlocke youtubers havent uploaded in weeks or months. how do i keep up with the modern state of nuzlocke?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 19:44:57 No.53826488 Report

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>>53826448
why do you care about what some faggot ecelebs are doing? have some self-respect and just do what you want because you enjoy it instead of doing something because some dumb cunt and her orbiters make a fad out of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 20:40:43 No.53826840 Report

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>>53826488
why are you so randomly aggressive lmao

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 20:42:50 No.53826858 Report

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>>53826840
wdytwa?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 22:19:18 No.53827425 Report

Quoted By: >>53829288

>>53823763
Now that I bothered to look up Carnivine's moveset, I see that anon was referring to Seed Bomb instead. Waaaaaay more worth it than Chansey's shitter move.
>>53826118
Mammut looks so adorable here. Well, everyone's cute af actually.
>>53826448
How do you define "glory days" and which youtubers are you talking about?

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WedlockeAnon Sat 20 May 2023 00:32:15 No.53827971 Report

Quoted By: >>53828429

>>53812984
Time for the Elite Four.
>Clair
Tetrazzini took out Gyarados with Rock Slide after taking a few Dragon Rages. After that, Milkshake Ice Beam spammed Kingdra and the rest of her team.

>Kimono Girl Gauntlet
Daikon took out Umbreon with a Close Combat, switched into Cheesecake on Espeon who... did just over half and got a Sp. Def drop, forcing a sacrifice. Daikon did end up surviving a Psychic on 6 HP and killing with a Shadow Claw. Daikon procedes to Close Combat the rest of the team.

And after training up Daikon's new partner, Cavatappi got one-shot by a Venusaur (which I just realized as of typing was likely due to Overgrow.)

> Silver 5
Tetrazzini took care of pretty much everything.

>>53826118
These are really adorable drawings

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WedlockeAnon Sat 20 May 2023 02:30:15 No.53828429 Report

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>>53827971
And I lost. I got unlucky against Bruno after a crit Ice Punch killed Plantain, Milkshake dying to Karen's Gengar's Destiny Bond which I knew it had, I just had a retard moment, which led me to getting destroyed by Lance. I'll rebuild eventually, Milkshake dying really upset me since that was my plan for Lance.

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 04:16:59 No.53828869 Report

Quoted By: >>53829394

rubylocke guy, i've been grinding up, but i could use some 2nd opinions on my 6th team member
i got
>gyarados - the wattson savior
>minun - the encore support hero
>milotic - the Drake slayer
>absol - the phoebe rapist
>shelgon (fuck yea won the coinflip at meteor falls) - no clever title yet
these are the 'mons i have left, and it's really just glacia's team and steven's metagross that scare me. the three i've been considering most is
>camerupt - extra fire coverage to supplement the eventual salamence fire blast, but almost dead weight against glacia
>bellossom - has my sunnybeam combo, can support the salamence fire blast to boost it to ohko range, can possibly go against glacia, but its risky and failing against glacia means no sunny day support for steven
>magneton - rapes glacia, can set up reflect support which minun can't do for some damn reason, but is deathly allergic to half of steven's team via earthquake
any recommendations on those three or is there another 6th teammate i'm overlooking here and should consider?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 06:34:45 No.53829288 Report

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>>53827425
Man, i don't know how i messed that up, i was even looking at Bulbapedia while typing my post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 07:27:28 No.53829394 Report

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>>53828869
Wobuffet is ubers with good reason. Although it does feel cheesy and is a pain to level.

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 11:45:06 No.53829929 Report

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Finished lance on HGSS. Only member lost was slowbro who died to a crit outrage. Nothing of value was lost. This thing was so bad, that I had to EV train it 24 Sp.Atk EVs so that it could 2HKO lance's dragonite. Mind you, 6 Sp.Atk IV, 0 Sp.Atk EV, negative Sp.Atk nature would have been sufficient, which it was lacking in. Won't be doing Kanto, because I used save states, because I forgot to do the up+select+B thing before making a new save and couldn't be arsed to redo the start. Apparently you get throw back to the title screen after defeating the league, which had me starting at a previous run right before I got wiped by a bayleaf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 12:37:07 No.53830040 Report

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>>53826118
the best part about this is how unreasonably small Mammut is
priceless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 12:49:12 No.53830064 Report

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>>53826448
Play the fucking game.
Watching sweaty assholes pretending that they are some Nuzlocke gods is waste of time and fact that this group is leaving is actually damn good. Nuzlockes are not your pro-tryhard speedrun competetive faggotry, it's for people that want bit different experience and depth in gameplay.

Anyway, I'm going through Emerald. Currently slowly training for Brawly - Combusken, Wingull, Poochyena,Dustox, Marill, Electrike in team. Probably will do proper post after him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 13:59:19 No.53830237 Report

Quoted By: >>53830276 >>53830304 >>53830309

>Played the games for around 20 years
>Never finished a nuzlocke
What the fuck, I need to change this
Tell me what game to start with

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 14:14:09 No.53830276 Report

Quoted By: >>53830304

>>53830237
X/Y
it's easypeazy if you have exp share turned on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 14:25:40 No.53830304 Report

Quoted By: >>53830318

>>53830237
Either a game you know inside and out or one that doesn't have a lot of cheap trainers. The Kanto remakes would be a good starting point. Like >>53830276 said, X and Y are pretty easy, take it from someone who's currently Nuzlocking it, but there's quite a few mean trainers for whatever reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 14:26:34 No.53830309 Report

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>>53830237
FRLG are probably the easiest due to sheer familiarity and VS Seeker allowing you to easily grind new team members.
RSE is similar but Emerald has few tricky fights and there's no easy trick to recover after loss of team member.
GSC/HGSS you'll either love for their slighty more live world and SOVL or hate due to "level curve" memes.
Platinum is hard but rewarding as fuck. Early game diversity kinda sucks but at least it gives you good stuff. There's VS Seeker but no ways to abuse it like in FRLG.
XY has great Pokemon diversity but is baby mode unless you go out of your way to limit all the broken stuff you get.
SM/USUM are kinda like Johto games, just replace level curve memes with cutsceness. SM has better structured plot, USUM has more fun toys to play around and Boss fight making Arceus look like he belongs in ZU.
ORAS is worse RSE. Good only to watch May pushing her chest forward after getting defeated.
I have no opinion about BW or BW2. I Nuzlocked BW once but had no big opinions about it.
LGPE is for sociopaths that want to struggle with shitty level up mechanics on top of Nuzlocke.
SWSH is meh.
ScaVio is pain in ass due to open world nature.
I have no idea how to Nuzlocke PLA without doing some kind of rule bending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 14:28:34 No.53830318 Report

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>>53830304
By Kanto remakes, i meant FireRed and LeafGreen.

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 16:12:53 No.53830766 Report

Quoted By: >>53830773 >>53830825

Beat my first hardcore nuzlocke without using setup moves in White 2 challenge mode today. Tried twice before but failed. Had some close calls on the way and it left me with only 5 solid team-members. Crustle was the hanger-on, and in hindsight the wrong move. Dude did fuck-all the entire E4. At the end I had Excadrill, Cofagrigus and Scrafty left alive.

- Leveled my team to 59.9 before starting, since the E4's extra levels don't properly give stats I didn't want to go too high.
- Blind besides what I could remember, so I remembered some mons like Iris Haxorus, Shauntals Chandelure or Marshal having Sawk/Throh. But knew basically 0 moves.
- I really struggled to find good dragon/ice-moves for Iris, ended up basically just with Arcanine and Starmie for carries.
- Marshal and Iris were the really scary fights but I had close calls multiple times.
- Excadrill and Arcanine were MVPs overall with Earthquake and Flare Blitz/Outrage. I was annoyed at getting Flash Fire Growlithe at the start of the run but it saved my ass against Chandelure by letting me switch in without taking damage.
- Starmie critting and oneshotting Hydreigon with Gem-boosted Ice Beam was the MVP play (I don't think this team could have won without that gem, the only one I ended up using - threw a couple others on during E4 but they were never relevant). Runner up was 8-HP Excadrill outspeeding and killing Archeops for the final kill, which was probably only possible because of challenge mode erroneously not giving stats for the extra levels. Without that I would have had only full-HP Cofagrigus and half-HP Scrafty to kill it - potentially still doable since Cofagrigus had Will-o-Wisp and took very little damage from it, and Iris was out of Full Restores. Never needed to find out though!

Biggest bullshit death was losing a tanky mon (I genuinely forgot what mon it was) to soak + Giga Drain in a triple battle because I wasn't prepared for one and ended up with two slow fucks in my frontlines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 16:13:55 No.53830773 Report

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>>53830766
Should mention, I have had more than 2 previous runs but only 2 that got past, like, Skyla. And all three main runs were separated by 5+ months each so they stand out more separately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 16:26:21 No.53830825 Report

Quoted By: >>53830862

>>53830766
>moxie

your run is invalid

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 16:33:54 No.53830860 Report

Quoted By: >>53831098 >>53831628

>decide to try out a randomizer with randomized abilities of white 2
>first encounter, a salamence
>manage to catch it
>it has pure power
do i just reset because the temptation is there to just EV train it's attack and skullfuck the entire game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 16:34:57 No.53830862 Report

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>>53830825
>58 speed
Ideal moxie conditions

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 17:40:43 No.53831090 Report

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>>53768772
Overdue update, been playing TotK the past week but picking this up again while my controller charges.

>Maylene
Gravastar the Duskull Shadow Snuck Meditite twice, Hubble Air Slashed Machoke twice, then the newly-evolved Shaula tanked a few Metal Claws from Lucario and took him down with two Digs.
>Galactic story
With a new ally in Maylene, Diamond assists Dawn with recovering her Pokedex from Galactic grunts. He and Looker later investigate the warehouse the grunts were guarding, only to find the mysterious Porygon, who Diamond takes into his care and upgrades to its next form.
>Crasher Wake
Hubble OHKOs Gyarados with Shock Wave, then the newly-evolved Earth switches into a Crunch from Floatzel before switching again for Aquarius, who is pumped to face another of his kind. Aquarius shirks off an Ice Fang, then the two clash with Crunch. The damage is a bit too much though, so Aquarius switches for Deneb, who tanks Crunch twice before confusing Floatzel with Psybeam. Earth shields Deneb from another Crunch before switching out of the incoming Ice Fang, but Floatzel hits himself in confusion as Hubble returns. Wake heals Floatzel, but it's not enough as Hubble unleashes a full-power Shock Wave to OHKO. Earth steps in again to finish off Quagsire with Razor Leaf.
>Galactic story
Immediately after the gym battle, Team Galactic nukes the Great Marsh to test their new bomb. Diamond, Pearl, and Looker chase the perpetrator, but he escapes via helicopter. Diamond travels to Celestic Town to pursue a lead and thwarts another bombing attempt. The mysterious Cyrus arrives and reveals himself to be the leader of Team Galactic, then quickly loses a battle to Diamond and leaves with his failed grunt. Diamond travels to Canalave City next per Cynthia's suggestion, and intends to train at Iron Island with Looker's contact, Riley, before challenging Byron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 17:43:01 No.53831098 Report

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>>53830860
no dude
you ev train it, skullfuck the entire game, then flip your table over when a single Ice Shard demolishes it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 19:46:55 No.53831628 Report

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>>53830860
It's a randomizer, so there's no guarantee a trainer doesn't have an ice type that could put Salamance in danger. I say go for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 22:47:26 No.53832606 Report

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Bump.

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Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 01:09:13 No.53833336 Report

Quoted By: >>53836171

>>53810669
Is Nuzlocking "Pokemon Citrine" on Relic Castle possible?
It's a room where you can visit the Safari Zone or buy the Pokemon you want, and then you can take on all the Trainers of Kanto in a row.

While I work on the 2 Gym Demo, this is the beta test for the RNG-free battle system and balance changes.

Pic unrelated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 01:37:37 No.53833418 Report

Quoted By: >>53834146

TIL That Route 33 doesn't technically exist in Gold. It does in HGSS and has unique encounters, so I'm counting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 05:26:40 No.53834146 Report

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>>53833418
Is it just counted as route 32?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 06:05:23 No.53834269 Report

Quoted By: >>53835108

>doing a poison monotype run on scarlet
>by the time you beat the second titan you can already get the last remaining poison types, which aren't many you couldn't get prior to that point
man, i hope that the DLC adds more poison types into the game because they are fucking scarce in scarlet. violet has one more but still. at least glimmora is a beast of a mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 12:46:20 No.53835108 Report

Quoted By: >>53835123

>>53834269
Is that better or worse than a DP momo fire type run? As in, you get more than two Pokémon to work with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 12:51:53 No.53835123 Report

Quoted By: >>53836171

>>53835108
Oh yeah, you get a bunch of pokemon. But most of them are super situational mons with very niche uses and there's really very little cohesion in the team. Like, the best mons you have access to are like, Dragalge, Glimmora, Clodsire, Salazzle and Revavroom. Outside of Glimmora being very mid mons.
You get more than a full team's worth of mons, but it's in general not a very diverse team. Granted that's kind of the point with a monotype run, but yeah. It's still Scarlet/Violet so it's still significantly easier than 90% of the earlier games' mono runs.

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Ronja Sun 21 May 2023 17:55:04 No.53836156 Report

Quoted By: >>53836271

Hope everyone is having a nice Sunday
To avoid just a boring old bump post, have a throwback to an old challenge run, the funmon solorun (this being one of mine; Pyukumuku in Ultra Sun)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 17:58:22 No.53836171 Report

Quoted By: >>53839016

>>53833336
I have no idea what that is, but i'm sure it's possible.
>>53835123
I don't doubt it's easier, and i'll give SV some credit for actually having tough bosses, unlike X and Y, which gets double Furfrou battle and Rock Tomb Hawlucha to compensate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 18:14:05 No.53836271 Report

Quoted By: >>53837578

>>53836156
your character looks like she prefers Lycanrocs though

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Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 19:11:41 No.53836511 Report

Quoted By: >>53837578 >>53838708

I'm starting up my autismlocke again after about a 7 month break.

>>53826118
Cute drawing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 20:29:08 No.53836838 Report

Quoted By: >>53836883

I just bought a game which I've never played before. Should I play it as a Nuzlocke or should I try to just enjoy it as the developers intended on my first playthrough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 20:35:06 No.53836883 Report

Quoted By: >>53836951

>>53836838
Which game is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 20:46:55 No.53836951 Report

Quoted By: >>53836978 >>53836981

>>53836883
Sword/Shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 20:53:21 No.53836978 Report

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>>53836951
Do a nuzlocke. I did one for Sword the first time I played it and it wasn't too bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 20:54:19 No.53836981 Report

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>>53836951
Wait how does Nuzlocke even work in this game? You can see the pokemon running around and essentially pick your first wild encounter in every area...

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storyanon Sun 21 May 2023 22:26:25 No.53837421 Report

Quoted By: >>53837578 >>53864310

>>53799918
The moment Winston stepped foot in Chargestone Cave, tragedy after tragedy befell the team.

First, he entered the cave with four members- and he left it with two. Kapi's departure hit the hardest, but it was followed by a string of other deaths that hurt only a little less badly.

Second, once Winston left, everything rained. Endlessly. It rained when he tried getting to the Pokemon Center, it rained as he was traversing the precarious poles some sadist had decided to call sufficient for a "bridge" over the dangerous tall grass, it rained while he fell in that grass and it rained as he climbed a tall tower to bury the newly-departed.

And while Winston stood there, staring at the new graves he'd made for his few new team members, soaked in the pouring rain and just barely grazed by a bolt of lightning, the trainer could only think one thing.

"I'm done."

He turned to his Deino-turned-Zweilous. He watched her two heads growl and fight, seemingly not aware that he was even there. He looked to his immobile Cloyster, as dumb as it ever was, and he turned back to his fallen members.

What was even the point?

Why was he doing this?

Where was it getting him?

...

Well, it was getting him away from his family, that was for sure.

Winston walked past his mon, not bothering to retrieve them, already headed back downstairs to get away from the damned tower.

He would not continue the gym challenge, from there on out, but he would continue his travels. He needed somewhere to live, after all, and the only place he'd found something he could afford was still further north from here.

So, he continued onward...

Ronja

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Ronja Sun 21 May 2023 22:57:27 No.53837578 Report

Quoted By: >>53837691 >>53838708

That's Wallace down, finally! The battle ended up being a collaborative effort between Cereal Yum and Pop Off Sis, strangely enough. Cereal Yum cleaned up Luvdisc and Whiscash without issue thanks to oneshotting Luvdisc and putting Whiscash to sleep for a clean twoshot, but two Hypnosis misses against Sealeo meant that she needed to be switched out. I send out Pop Off Sis banking on Sealeo using Aurora Beam again, which it did, allowing us to knock it out with Sky Uppercut, taking out Seaking as well for good measure. In comes Milotic, and I'm thinking that at (near) full HP, Pop Off Sis should be able to live a Water Pulse just fine, I really didn't want to switch into anyone if I could help it. Sky Uppercut does about 70% HP, Water Pulse doing enough to secure the 2KO. I have a 90% chance to win if I click Sky Uppercut, I could safe it with Strength, but that might not be enough. Me being the weenie I am I click Strength and...it's just barely enough, netting us the victory.

>>53826118
You have no idea just how much I love this drawing, all the expressions are just top notch and Mammut is especially adorable (although really they all are)

>>53836271
lmao, well, she is a white trainer

>>53836511
Oh hell yeah, I see you took on Orre! How were your experiences?

>>53837421
Damn, it's insane how much bad luck your runs have, good on you for sticking through at least
I'm glad to see that Mavis is alive still at least, I remember Eviolite Zweilous treating me quite well in Sun/Moon, hopefully she continues to be helpful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 23:01:58 No.53837593 Report

Quoted By: >>53837691

>>53810669
I have tried white 18 times and I still haven't won

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2023 23:12:06 No.53837641 Report

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Gen 9 mons backported to gen 3 when?

storyanon

storyanon Sun 21 May 2023 23:23:05 No.53837691 Report

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>>53837578
yeah, it's actually wearing on me quite a bit especially as I've just lost my only other trained member and my only other options have just been the shittiest fucking water types known to man but I shall persevere. I'm glad I'm able to actually use one of my favorites in a story campaign for once without constantly being stuck in its first stage; it's a welcome change

>>53837593
I am so sorry
I feel your pain lmao
People underestimate how balls-to-the-wall hard White and Black specifically are. There are so many chokepoints. None in the first third or so of the game (save for the atrocious grind before Striaton's leader and the subpar mon distribution), but after Elesa every single thing wants to break your balls.
Elesa will fuck you over even if you prepare for her Emolga,
Clay's Excadrill is an Excadrill,
Chargestone Cave is long and brutal,
the stretch between Mistralton and Icirrus is another very hard stretch (with Skyla being a weirdly spot in between),
and Iris/Drayden is a dragon-type gym leader at the end of the game. Nothing more needs to be said: even coming off an Ice leader, the odds that you have something decent for it is slim to none (especially seeing as Cubchoo, Vanillite, and Cryogonal are all very rare and relatively dogshit- your only sure shot besides coverage is an Axew that will probably get fucked over by the Deino on a few of the gym trainers)
Then there's Victory Road and beyond, which is somehow the only infamously difficult part of the game.
I've played these games more than any other and I still have trouble. Am I just bad? Yeah, probably. Still hard as fuck though.

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 00:21:08 No.53837932 Report

Quoted By: >>53838164

Gonna start my autism run for the first time, doing all from a gen at once. Just made it out of Viridian Forest.

storyanon

storyanon Mon 22 May 2023 01:18:55 No.53838164 Report

Quoted By: >>53838512

>>53837932
if you're using Champs that might be a bad idea since it invalidates any challenge it might bring and lands you with a lot of repeats, but if not then godspeed good anon

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 02:33:40 No.53838452 Report

Quoted By: >>53838708 >>53838800

FireRed was smooth and painless (only relevant mons listed in the box). Lessons learned:
>Fearow is a late-game god if you keep it alive
>Kanto leaders have very common answers. Surge and Koga were the only two leaders that I needed more than 1 pokemon for (not listed on sheet: Primeape soloing Brock, Vileplume soloing Misty.)
>Not having a rock or steel-type early meant I was playing around Rattata/Raticate hyper fang for the entire early/mid-game. pray for Geodude in mt. moon.
>Lance will almost dumpster you no matter how prepared you are for him. I thought about sacrificing Golem but took a risk to keep everyone alive. A crit outrage on Vaporeon would've ended my run.
>berries will save you. An opponent wasting 1 turn on sleep/paralysis can win you battles easy, especially with substitute or rest. I had the foresight to put a rawst berry on Golem in case Blue's Arcanine's flamethrower got the 10% burn on the switch-in, and it did! I forgot i had a cheri berry on magneton for lance's dragonair (it never t-waved me), but i forgot alakazam had synchronize so it saved me from my own t-wave.

This was a nice quick run after losing White at the last N battle. I think it's Y-version next - I haven't played on cart in a while and play G4-G5 pretty frequently. I need one or two more easy ones before I try White again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 02:48:30 No.53838512 Report

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>>53838164
Wait what do you mean by champs?

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 03:38:51 No.53838708 Report

Quoted By: >>53843177 >>53874896

>>53836511
I'm getting the worst possible abilities on almost everything I catch and it's starting to bother me. Besides that the run is going well so far.
I tried to not rely on Geodude for Whitney but her Miltank was too strong for the rest of my team. I switched to Hoothoot to bait her Miltank to use rollout, then brought Geodude in to take it out. My team was in rough shape after the battle but nobody died.

>>53837578
>I see you took on Orre! How were your experiences?
The games are really grind heavy even for nuzlockes. Colosseum has massive level spikes in a few spots and XD is generally pretty hard and requires training a lot of Pokemon because a lot of Pokemon die. It's sometimes hard to plan for major battles because enemy trainers can lead with any two of their Pokemon.
Also shadow Pokemon in Colosseum are awful because their only attack does recoil damage, and hyper mode is one of the most annoying, frustrating mechanics in the series.
Despite all these bad things I'm saying about them I'm glad I included the games in my autismlocke. They were a much needed challenge and it was fun to play the games again since I hadn't played them since they released.

>>53838452
Congrats!

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 04:16:27 No.53838800 Report

Quoted By: >>53838887

>>53838452
>can't find my 3ds but got X on citra to start this
>forgot riolu has counter and it takes out my fletchling
>whatever, go to gym with fennekin/azurill/panpour/litleo
>i can't leave the gym before fighting viola
>my panpour is poisoned on half HP from a trainer and i don't have an antidote
>forgot i need it to take out surskit (bc azurill only has water moves) until after i use all my pots on teammates
>get a lucky para off lick and then switch to azurill to try and stall
>get the potion out of viola but azurill is dying so i have to do some creative switching to get fennekin in
>fennekin takes it out with like half HP remaining, but water sport is still active for a few turns (be for fucking real)
>beat vivillon with 4HP thanks to blaze damage boost
>make it out of the gardens with no losses but get close to losing multiple teammates bc corphish has high defense and vice grip for my water mons and bubble for my fire mons
this fucking early game lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 04:47:26 No.53838887 Report

Quoted By: >>53838896

>>53838800
>>i can't leave the gym before fighting viola
I used to think that too, but you can leave by just going to the center of the web, taking one step back and pressing A

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 04:49:26 No.53838896 Report

Quoted By: >>53839083

>>53838887
that would've made my life a lot easier, damn
>think i'm prepared for the furfrou trainers
>OUTSPEED DOUBLE FLINCH
>haha they have a potion!
i only lost scraggy but oh my god

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 04:55:47 No.53838912 Report

Quoted By: >>53843792

SwSh Flying monolocke, grass spawns only. Just beat Grass gym, haven't lost anything yet, but no overworld means I'm missing out on some nice bulk until a bit later on like Woobat in the mines. Also waiting out weather to go get more mons from the wild area.

Current team:
Big Mama the Hoothoot
Glenn the Arrogant Corvisquire
Whoopie the Drifloon
Mine the Wingull

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 05:40:50 No.53839016 Report

Quoted By: >>53839083

>>53836171
>for actually having tough bosses
who? like turo/sada is literally only remotely difficult because you can't possibly know the typing on most of their mons while they are also very high BST mons. but other than that it's one of the easiest games in the entire series

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 06:11:08 No.53839083 Report

Quoted By: >>53839093

>>53838896
Losing a single mon to that hellspawn team is a good run. It's funny that you got Panpour too, what are the odds? Also, always carry an antidote (or ten).
>>53839016
The Revavroom car bosses, but maybe they're solved by now, i wouldn't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 06:16:14 No.53839093 Report

Quoted By: >>53839934

>>53839083
>The Revavroom car bosses
Yeah I honestly don't know, I've personally never had a single issue with those ones and I've currently played through like 4 hardcore nuzlockes in Scarlet. Because like, if you can manage to net yourself either a fire/water tauros or a cyclizar, the entire run becomes an absolute breeze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 13:09:46 No.53839934 Report

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>>53839093
It's probably just that no one knew what they were doing when SV came out, but the Revavroom bosses seemed to be difficult, but that was before everyone knows the intended order.

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 16:21:25 No.53840632 Report

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>get a salazzle for my poison run
>forgot how fucking based corrosion is as an ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 19:36:34 No.53841417 Report

Quoted By: >>53841488 >>53841510 >>53841562

Thread question: would you stretch the 'first Pokémon you see' rule to catch that same species with the opposet gender if you had a nickname in mind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 19:54:11 No.53841488 Report

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>>53841417
no, "first pokemon you see" includes that pokemon's stats/ability/nature/level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 19:57:13 No.53841510 Report

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>>53841417
no. it'd be an entirely new pokemon with [probably] different IVs and nature. remember dupes clause is a "may ignore dupes", not "must ignore dupes", so if you can you can metaphorically fish for the pokemon you want on another route

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 20:05:36 No.53841562 Report

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>>53841417
I guess I must be very inclusive because gender is literally he last thing I look at unless it's a gender-specific evo I want. I'm currently naming my mons after authors and currently Lewis Carroll (or just L. Carroll) is a female apparently. I couldn't care less.

Ronja

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Ronja Mon 22 May 2023 22:17:21 No.53842195 Report

Quoted By: >>53842901 >>53843177 >>53848742 >>53873045

We did it! That's Ruby completed!
I was worried that I hadn't grinded enough, but knew that I'd likely never feel completely safe, so I might as well jump in and get it over with (usually famous last words)
The first four trainers were entirely soloed by Pop Off Sis and Zanzibaa, Pop Off Sis plowing through Sidney and Glacia, with Zanzibaa taking care of Phoebe and Drake. Things were going great, but I knew from experience that Steven can be a run killer, so I prepared myself mentally before charging in
The battle was somehow mostly soloed by Pop Off Sis, who takes out his Skarmory, Aggron, Metagross and Armaldo, oneshotting the first three and tanking an Aerial Ace before twoshotting the latter. Claydol ends up being a collaborative effort between Passion and Zanzibaa, but the Cradily poses a bit of a problem. Giga Drain will kill Zanzibaa, Pop Off Sis and Passion are weakened, Frolica wouldn't be able to do much being switched in. I send in Love Shack hoping to go for confusion strats, but the fucker confuses right back and makes Love Shack hit himself into a dangerous range. There's only one hope left. I send in Cereal Yum, a clean switch thanks to Love Shack's confusion. Hypnosis lands, but Focus Punch is broken next turn as Cradily immediately wakes up and does about 50% HP with Sludge Bomb. Palms are sweaty, knees heavy. I go for a second Hypnosis...it lands. Focus Punch, Cradily sleeps, 70% HP of damage. This is it. Only one Focus Punch left. Cereal Yum charges up, and...Cradily snoozes on, allowing our little Spinda friend who could take the victory for the run.
I am never badmouthing a Spinda ever again.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 00:56:37 No.53842901 Report

Quoted By: >>53843177 >>53846503 >>53873045

Well, X is done. Some close calls in the E4 (Wikstrom's Aegislash, Diantha's M-Gardevoir) but ultimately pretty smooth after the early game. I had to turn off EXP share a bunch to stop key teammates from overleveling before gyms (Azumarill ended up slightly over Diantha during the E4, but it didn't make a difference - she was gonna OHKO Goodra and Auroros regardless). Lessons learned:
>A good pokemon with a bad nature is still good (Azumarill), and a fine pokemon with a bad nature will leave things on 10% to piss you off (Delphox)
>Lucario is busted
>don't hedge on NPCs making the wrong move (also, exeggutor gets psyshock on level-up starting in g5)
>you WILL lose someone to the furfrou double battle

I've never used Lucario or Sigilyph before and they both impressed me. Snorlax, Venusaur, and Azumarill are always solid. Golos had a -sp.atk nature that really hurt his ability to OHKO, but he was ultimately fine and the fire coverage saved me after Wikstrom's Klefki's torment ruined my +6 Lucario sweep (couldn't bone rush Aegislash after KOing Probopass). He also chipped at Diantha's sleeping M-Gardevoir and set up Light Screen so Venusaur could come in and KO with sludge bomb.

>>53842195
Congrats! Cool to see Dustox and Spinda in there at the E4.

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storyanon Tue 23 May 2023 02:07:00 No.53843123 Report

Quoted By: >>53843177

>my entire team now consists of one mon in its late 30s and 3-4 others in the single digits
God fucking help me I have so much grinding to do

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 02:29:29 No.53843177 Report

Quoted By: >>53843182 >>53848742 >>53853000

>>53838708
Morty was the easiest gym leader yet, Girafarig beat him without getting hit. Morty's Gengar wasted its two turns on mean look and missing hypnosis, but even if hypnosis hit it wouldn't matter thanks to the chesto berry. Morty's other three Pokemon were out-sped and OHKOd.

>>53842195
Nice. Spinda being useful is awesome.
>>53842901
Congrats
>>53843123
That's rough. Are they at least good Pokemon or are they shitters?

storyanon

storyanon Tue 23 May 2023 02:31:49 No.53843182 Report

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>>53843177
if they were good pokemon i'd be complaining less
or if I even liked them as pokemon
the fact that I not only have to use a Yanma again, but have to raise it from an egg with its worse ability infuriates me greatly and I hope it dies very very soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 06:01:44 No.53843792 Report

Quoted By: >>53848742

>>53838912
Made it through the first three gyms now. Gained a Delibird and lost an Emolga to Drednaw. Pretty sad about the electric coverage loss, but hopeful it's not as bad as it seems. Echoed Voice Noct and two Stockpile users is making it happen so far though. Hoot evolved and so did Wingull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 14:25:54 No.53845095 Report

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Bunp.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 16:10:31 No.53845525 Report

Quoted By:

been /nuz/zing all night

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 19:29:38 No.53846503 Report

Quoted By: >>53848665

>>53842901
Congratulations, you speedran X dude. What's next?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 23:30:48 No.53847873 Report

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>>53812347
>Almost a week since i've played
Jeez. Been busy prepping for TotK, but i'm about to start playing again, otherwise nothing else to update with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 02:29:40 No.53848665 Report

Quoted By: >>53848742

>>53846503
I think HGSS, which I haven't touched in a while. It's a lot of grinding and I want to include Kanto/Red though. I probably won't start until this weekend.

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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 02:50:25 No.53848742 Report

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>Bridge Triple Threat Match
Shelly took care of Shauna, Salvador one shot Tierno, Loretta and Amadeus swept Trevor.
>Wulfric
I have two fire types, what do you think happened? He didn't even get to make a move because Amadeus one shot everything, despite how breif i was the triple threat was more challenging. The most notable thing was an ice gym didn't rely on sliding around for a puzzle. Why does GF keep making slow, bulky ice types when ice is the worst defensive type? What went wrong that the random trainers are a bigger threat than the gym leaders? Can i come up with even more complaints about the difficulty at the League?
>>53842195
Congratulations on the deathless run! Who are you picking for Sapphire?
>>53843177
Girafarig, nice choice. Not a mon you see too often. I'm just a tad concerned how this team will fare against Lance, but that's a ways off still.
>>53843792
Delibird is interesting, and unlike certain other meme Pokémon it has some decent TM coverage.
>>53848665
Funny, i'm considering a HG run too, but with a slightly different ruleset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 03:33:23 No.53848927 Report

Quoted By: >>53849207 >>53849499 >>53852930

>start blaze black 2
>cannot defeat Cheren
What the FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 04:47:42 No.53849207 Report

Quoted By:

>>53848927
drayano hacks are ridiculous especially early game when you haven't had the same time to build resources as the NPCs. I beat sacred gold once (set battle, no items) and it was hard as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 06:53:31 No.53849499 Report

Quoted By:

>>53848927
Yeah, that sounds like a drayano hack alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 16:06:38 No.53850927 Report

Quoted By: >>53850939 >>53851669 >>53852005 >>53853000 >>53854843

>10
Nuh uh
Discussion-promoting thread
Do you usually count the non-battle facility post-game content as part of the run, or do you call the when the credits roll for the first time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 16:07:12 No.53850931 Report

Quoted By:

Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 16:08:39 No.53850939 Report

Quoted By:

>>53850927
No, but I couldn't consider Gen 2 and the remakes finished with the E4. Old games didn't have a similar idea of a "post-game" like we do now, so Red was clearly intended to be the real ending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 17:19:08 No.53851218 Report

Quoted By: >>53851747 >>53852005 >>53881034

>Have an interrupted Ultra Sun Nuzlocke from 9 months ago or something
I'm not sure if I want to pick it back up or just start over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 18:45:40 No.53851669 Report

Quoted By:

>>53850927
Credits roll and I'm done. I don't think I've bothered going for Red in any HGSS run, just can't be assed to grind for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 19:00:00 No.53851747 Report

Quoted By: >>53852622

>>53851218
How far did you get?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 19:48:10 No.53852005 Report

Quoted By: >>53852622 >>53853885 >>53854843

Finale Serena fight:
>Salvador leads with Light Screen, tanking Fake Out and Shadow Ball before Shelly comes in and finishes Meowstic
>Greninja comes out and Ice Beams, doing little damage before fainting
>Flareon comes out and Lava Plumes, scoring a burn on Shelly, Poseidon comes in and also gets burned (bullshit) before taking out Flareon and Altaria
>Absol comes in, switch into Loretta since Shelly is low and burned, Absol uses Swords Dance when i heal, Hammer Arm does over half but Loretta is now slower
>Absol takes out Loretta with Night Slash, Firestar enters and Hyper Beams Absol, winning the battle
I was livid at how shit my luck was in this fight, there was little else i could do other than use Strength to take advantage of STAB and silk scarf, but there's no guarantee that would have worked thanks to Diggersby's low attack. I think i'm done for today, i need to figure out a grind spot and a replacement for Loretta (which i do have an idea for, but people might not like it).
>>53850927
Aside from one HG run, i always do the post game.
>>53851218
Depends on how far you got honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 21:34:02 No.53852484 Report

Quoted By: >>53852548

I wanted to play leafgreen with only green mons, and then I realized the team would have to be venusaur - victreebel - exeggutor - metapod

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 21:46:04 No.53852548 Report

Quoted By: >>53855436

>>53852484
shiny vileplume, poliwrath, golbat, muk, tangela, and pinsir
but then you'd actually have to shiny hunt for those

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 22:04:43 No.53852622 Report

Quoted By: >>53853000 >>53881034

>>53851747
>>53852005
>How far did you get?
I believe I did the Lurantis fight, but not Olivia yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 23:18:01 No.53852930 Report

Quoted By: >>53853038

>>53848927
bb2 early game is pretty encounter dependent. otherwise the rest of the game is a pretty balanced challenge if you embrace calcing and rare candies (gen 5 quirks aside). otherwise it's a tough time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 23:35:08 No.53853000 Report

Quoted By: >>53853885 >>53854843 >>53856952

>>53843177
I added Lanturn to the team and he is quickly becoming the MVP. Meanwhile Arbok is starting to feel like dead weight, but I'm not sure who to replace her with.

>>53850927
I'm not sure if Kanto and Red count as post game in gen 2 but I always do them. The only other time I've done post game is one run of Black where I played until beating Alder and Cynthia.
>>53852622
I would continue from there if your team is solid enough and you didn't have too many deaths against Lurantis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 23:44:08 No.53853038 Report

Quoted By: >>53854596

>>53852930
What can you even encounter that will save your ass? Riolu won't help at all because he doesn't know any actual fighting moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 03:05:11 No.53853885 Report

Quoted By: >>53856952

>>53852005
bummer about loretta. swords dance on that absol is always scary. good luck with your replacement.

>>53853000
weezing is solid and has a versatile TM movepool (fireblast/flamethrower, thunderbolt, shadow ball, WoW). I think it helps with your ground problem and your fighting problem. gyarados as well unless you're worried about electric weakness (sorry about illuminate on lanturn).

other than those two, i'd bring in vulpix or gloom for coverage. tauros is strong too butprobably too redundant with ambipom. you can get return in the goldenrod department store on sundays for ambipom btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 07:30:45 No.53854596 Report

Quoted By: >>53856072

>>53853038
Lucario learns Force Palm at level 15 in Black 2, and you could always grind for Pignite.

Ronja

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Ronja Thu 25 May 2023 09:23:29 No.53854843 Report

Quoted By: >>53856952

Sapphire underway with Roxanne promptly defeated, about as free as a battle could be with this team going in, didn't even need Ian's help as Chippendip soloed the entire thing

>>53853000
Gastly would probably be a good option, this is as good a time as any to pop your Gengar
Otherwise Koffing could work if you're willing to grind up to Weezing, but then again it would also require a grind to get to the Thunderbolt TM, don't know what you feel about Voltorb Flip (personally I despise it)

>>53852005
Aw man, sad to see Loretta go, I hope the grinding goes well

>>53850927
Personally I'm all for the credits roll (second one in GSC/HGSS), but I'm honestly tempted to try going for the postgame in FRLG (at least one of them) since it's been such a long time since I've done so, I have many good emotions tied to that postgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 12:49:23 No.53855436 Report

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>>53852548
I'll try to cheese it without shinies and post results

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 16:04:18 No.53856072 Report

Quoted By:

>>53854596
>grinding wild pokemon for like 7-10 levels in gen 5 without audinos because shaking grass doesn't start until after you beat the first gym
I guess I'll restart, pick tepig, and feed only him exp from trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 16:10:09 No.53856110 Report

Quoted By: >>53856563

>there are people who aren't Rare Candy pilled
Grinding isn't real gameplay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 17:48:11 No.53856563 Report

Quoted By: >>53856584

>>53856110
Imagine cheating at a game when you're trying to impose a challenge-based ruleset on yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 17:52:15 No.53856584 Report

Quoted By: >>53856651 >>53858127

>>53856563
Is the challenge how much you can pad out your final time or how long you can put up with the tedium of grinding while maintaining just enough attention to not accidentally get something killed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 18:08:58 No.53856651 Report

Quoted By: >>53856662 >>53856691 >>53856918 >>53856937 >>53857031 >>53857662 >>53858127

>>53856584
If tedium is the issue, then why not cut more "tedious" things?
I guess you can just give yourself a bunch of master balls too in case you encounter something rare with a low capture rate, since throwing a ball at the same thing over and over again because it keeps breaking out is just tedium. Yeah, you could lose a pokemon trying to catch something rare that won't stay in the ball, but that's just padding out the time, so let's just skip that
And while we're at it, you can give yourself all the TMs and battle items at the start of the game so you don't have to do some arbitrary easy puzzle in a cave while being assaulted by zubats to find the actual overworld items, because that's just padding out the time of your run
And infinite pokedolls so if you encounter a shadow-tag or arena trap pokemon you don't have to waste time trying to knock it out when we don't want to fight it and just want to get to the next area
And infinite repels so you can just skip every wild encounter after the the first one on the route, since every encounter after that initial encounter is just EXP, and we don't need that because of rare candies.
All tedium gone, what a fun challenge run that was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 18:11:17 No.53856662 Report

Quoted By: >>53856689

>>53856651
>either everything is OK or none of it is
What a stupid argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 18:18:01 No.53856689 Report

Quoted By:

>>53856662
Don't see a reason why not. Why is some tedium bad, but other tedium fine?
If grinding isn't real gameplay, how are any of the other listed things?
Why is one thing fine, and the other not?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 18:18:17 No.53856691 Report

Quoted By: >>53856697 >>53857478

>>53856651
Wait, Pokedolls work against Shadow Tag and Arena Trap?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 18:19:53 No.53856697 Report

Quoted By: >>53856898

>>53856691
I think so?
At the very least I'm fairly sure it's worked on an arena trap pokemon in one of my runs, don't see why it wouldn't work on shadow-tag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 19:13:05 No.53856898 Report

Quoted By:

>>53856697
Well, i just tested Smoke Ball on Arena Trap and it worked, so i would say a Pokedoll works on Shadow Tag as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 19:17:13 No.53856918 Report

Quoted By:

>>53856651
do what you want but these are some pretty big false equivalences

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 19:20:56 No.53856937 Report

Quoted By: >>53858127

>>53856651
level grinding is engaging in mindless tedium with little to no threat unless/until you become so bored that you outright stop paying attention. there's no thought required, no real risk management involved. you are the type of person who hammers a nail in with the wrong side because "well, it's a challenge!"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 19:23:27 No.53856952 Report

Quoted By: >>53864579

>>53853000
I got through Clair with no deaths but only because her Kingdra was blind. I'm definitely going to change my team now because I'm not confident I can beat Lance with it.

>>53853885
>>53854843
Weezing seems like it will be a good Arbok replacement. I'm going to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 19:42:26 No.53857031 Report

Quoted By: >>53857124 >>53858127

>>53856651
>Hacking Masterballs
No, it removes tension from encounters. For example, f you go for a legendary encounter, you have to be aware that you're not guaranteed to get it and you are risking the lives of your team, especially if you are playing with a "no healing in battle" rule.

>Giving all the TMs
No, It goes against the intented level design and structure of the game. They're also not that hard to find, usually just a small detour that barely takes time.

>Infinite Pokédolls
Not that relevant in the grand scheme of things as you can buy them in most games and most of the time you'll be using repels anyway. Although If I were to hack them, I would wait until I get access to a shop where they're available.

>Infinite repels
I wouldn't do it but I see no issue about this. They don't prevent you from encountering strong Pokémon that can fuck your team.

>Hacking rare candies
Personally, I've spent hundreds of hours grinding on console across probably more than 30 runs and I'm just sick of it. It doesn't feel rewarding, it is boring, monotonous as fuck and it is a massive waste of time you could spend doing literally anything else in your life. That's why I would use every opportunity I get to skip grinding, so long at it doesn't shit the difficulty curve of the game, that's why I play with level caps and cannot use the rare candies until I've defeated all trainers previous to an important battle, and that's why I switched to playing on emulator so I can speed things up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 20:01:32 No.53857124 Report

Quoted By: >>53857136 >>53857662 >>53858127

>>53857031
You are the most rational rare candy user.
Your arguments are reasonable, aside from, in my opinion, the repel one.
Assuming you're using rare candies, you're probably not going to ever be in an area where something is high enough leveled compared to your team in the wild to get through the repels, so infinite repels just means no encounters in that situation.
If you think grinding is boring and are sick of doing it, it's fine for you to use rare candies. More power to you, hell, I don't use hacked candies and even I still use speedup while grinding
I just believe that grinding is a part of the experience. There's still an element of risk involved. I've lost party members while grinding because I had to train something up to replace a dead party member, and it was actually slightly underleveled compared with the area, That is part of the nuzlocke experience for me, something as simple as "Welp, time to replace a dead party member" can lead to yet another death. And it's just overtly wrong to say it isn't real gameplay and that there's no risk involved unless you're not paying attention.
I lost a Machop to a wild Geodude using selfdestruct. I wasn't even underleveled in that situation, it just survived a hit and then blew up, the only thing I could have done differently was not gotten greedy and assumed I could one-shot it with a weaker move because level-advantage.
That's gameplay that just so happened to happen during a boring, repetitive task like grinding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 20:03:45 No.53857136 Report

Quoted By: >>53857219 >>53858127

>>53857124
>I've lost party members while grinding because I had to train something up to replace a dead party member, and it was actually slightly underleveled compared with the area
But you could've just used Repels, gone to a lower-leveled area, and then done your grinding there to minimize risks. Which is just a waste of time; you're wasting time for the privilege of wasting more time on busywork to be where you could've been X minutes ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 20:16:57 No.53857219 Report

Quoted By: >>53858127

>>53857136
But I wanted to maximize the experience yield per battle, grinding on things that are slightly higher leveled than you is bigger risk for bigger reward.
If I think something can swing above its weight a bit because of a type advantage, and then lose a party member because of it, that's a punishment because I took a risk. It's time consuming, but objectively, it is gameplay. And it makes the challenge more fun when I take risks. And that's the point. The risk of it. If I wanted to minimize risk, I wouldn't use item limits and level caps and play most of my runs mostly blind outside of the level caps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 20:51:30 No.53857478 Report

Quoted By: >>53858127

>>53856691
yes. i never go without at least one just in case of a really fucking scary wild pokemon that i'm not 100% sure i can run away from

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 21:13:15 No.53857662 Report

Quoted By: >>53857905 >>53858127

>>53857124
>>53856651
Not that anon, but I use the Rare Candies cheat only for one thing: Red in GSC/HGSS.
The Johto games are particularly bad about giving you decent mons to grind on.
>PokéDolls
I consider them battle items, and thus I ban them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 21:56:39 No.53857905 Report

Quoted By: >>53858127 >>53859308

>>53857662
While I'm personally opposed to the idea, using them for the Red fight is understandable, in my opinion. There are zero wild encounters once you reach that point that pose a legitimate threat to you anymore, and in my original, normal playthrough of SoulSilver I had to grind for hours using the super rod for level 40 Gyarados that aren't even guaranteed in Mt. Silver just to get my team decently leveled to take on Red, and I was still way too underleveled to beat him. But, then again, I was a very stupid child when I did this and had to cheese my way through the base elite 4 at a time so honestly that was probably just a skill issue.
I do think it's less of an issue in GSC, since his levels are lower and in original gen 2 it's a bit easier to win at a larger level difference, at least in my Silver Nuzlocke anyway. My party was in the low 60s and I was able to handle him decently well, only 2 deaths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 May 2023 22:47:17 No.53858127 Report

Quoted By: >>53864506

>>53857905
>>53857662
>>53857478
>>53857219
>>53857136
>>53857124
>>53857031
>>53856937
>>53856651
>>53856584
you're playing games for 8-year-olds

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 03:12:15 No.53859240 Report

Quoted By: >>53859481 >>53859733

>No fully good place to grind for Kalos Elite 4
We're in it now boys. Gonna be busy tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 03:33:41 No.53859308 Report

Quoted By:

>>53857905
>He needs to be on the same level as NPCs in Pokemon game.

Skill issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 04:26:31 No.53859481 Report

Quoted By:

>>53859240
>needing to grind in XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 05:34:49 No.53859733 Report

Quoted By: >>53859915

>>53859240
Depending on if you have any grass types that can learn it, just get a Sweet Scent user to the last room of XY's Victory Road. Hoards of Floatzels plus the broken EXP share should be enough to grind your team up in less than an hour if you're legitimately underleveled for the E4.
In my run of X it got my entire team to their high-60s, low-70s in like, an hour at most, maybe? As long as you've got at least a couple of pokemon who have good multi-target moves
That's how I won babby's first successful nuzlocke, anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 06:57:40 No.53859911 Report

Quoted By:

Best mobile GBA emulator? I'm not sure if the list in the OP is still accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 06:59:54 No.53859915 Report

Quoted By: >>53860336

>>53859733
Per my ruleset (only six Pokémon may be caught at any time), i don't have a grass type, and i actually enjoy grinding to an extent, but the EXP Share would help where i'm grinding, so i might consider it. Thanks for the advice anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 10:32:03 No.53860336 Report

Quoted By: >>53862184

>>53859915
I've always found it pointless to avoid the EXP Share. Maybe it's because I've always played with level caps, but I don't consider slower grinding to contribute anything to a run, so I just use it if needed. (Not very often in XY)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 15:40:26 No.53861447 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 18:07:16 No.53862184 Report

Quoted By: >>53863636

>>53860336
Fair points, i guess i just think it's kinda cheap for my whole team to get EXP for only one members work. But, since it's only the Elite 4 left, i guess it isn't really cheap to speed up grinding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 21:01:56 No.53863175 Report

Quoted By:

One day I'll have the time to do the runback for OR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 22:27:59 No.53863636 Report

Quoted By:

>>53862184
I'm almost done grinding the team up, and i still think the modern EXP Share is cheap, but right now i like it.

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storyanon Sat 27 May 2023 01:43:59 No.53864310 Report

Quoted By: >>53864506 >>53864579

>>53837421
I think I'm going to cut off the story here since, considering where I took it, nothing really interesting happens from here on out

Winston kind of just heads north to Opelucid and settles down there to get a grip on Mavis and live a normal life

that, and I'm pretty burnt out
besides, it's hard to keep a story intact when you only have two central characters to it and 1) one doesn't speak 2) they both hate each other 3) the dynamic doesn't fit into the preestablished mold that these stories often sort of have to and 4) character death is simultaneously so common it's comical

so instead I shall revert to the usual way of recapping things

anyways-
I'm still kind of struggling so far. For some reason at least half of my encounters have been fucking water types, still, and (again) only the worst of them. That Politoed has Damp, no STAB and a bad nature, the Luvdisc is a Luvdisc, and the Krabby is probably the best of the bunch (Shell Armor with Adamant and Likes to Thrash About. unfortunately, it is still a physical water type with dogshit level-up moves)

I got the Yanma from that egg on Route 17, but I really really don't like Yanma specifically because of one I had in the past so the moment I got Sectonia I boxed it at the speed of light.

Right now I'm just focusing on going through the game, because if I stop to grind anymore I think I'll end up dropping this and forgetting about it. I don't want to do that, so I continue.
Mei-Mei was an odd encounter. I found her as a Klang, which is weird since I met every other current member in their first stage, while backtracking for HM stuff I couldn't get to before (which is also how I got so many more encounters). Never thought I'd have her on my team and I still don't know whether she's permanent. She is for the time being, though.
Might end up just trying to use as many high-level evolvers as I can since I tweaked the Randomizer's setting to let me use them early. I don't think I've ever used any.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 02:41:32 No.53864506 Report

Quoted By: >>53864579 >>53864592

The grind is done. Healing items are bought. Moves are taught. Nothing left but the Elite 4, and to introduce our new team member.
>Having lived tens of thousands of years, experiencing only a handful, Xalvo bore witness to some of the most important moments in history, and slumbered through the rest. His kidnapping by Team Flare, and subsequent resque by Alan and party, brought some much needed excitement to his life and left him with a debt to pay. Xalvo has returned to join Alan for the Kalos League to repay said debt, and he enjoys getting to be a regular Pokémon among the party.
Yes, i'm using Xerneas. I'm not using him as a crutch, you'll notice he's five levels below everyone else, and i want to get him out of the way for future runs, so there we go. I'm about to head into the league now, so i should be done very soon.
>>53858127
We take Pokémon and Nuzlockes very seriously here.
>>53864310
I was wondering where you were. Shame about Vim, but that's not a bad team there. Somehow i still think this has a better gym to death ratio than Platinum. So, Zekrom should be randomized as well? I wonder what you'll get in its place?

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 02:57:35 No.53864579 Report

Quoted By: >>53864592 >>53864798 >>53865243 >>53874896

>>53856952
The first 3 members of the E4 were complete pushovers, and Karen was annoying but not too difficult. Lance was a pain and I feel lucky to only have one death.
I'm kind of disappointed in Weezing after I spent so much time grinding it up. It did more than Arbok probably would have though.

>>53864310
Klang is worth keeping around. I got one on route 3 in a randomized White run and it was the MVP of that run.
>>53864506
Good luck

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storyanon Sat 27 May 2023 03:00:35 No.53864592 Report

Quoted By: >>53865243

>>53864506
it's surprisingly good, yeah
its members are honestly so disparate that I never considered them working together well but i've been having a much easier time this way and I hope nobody dies
you're probably also right about the gym to death ratio, though I think that's because I was constantly bleeding in Platinum whereas here I usually get kneecapped for a bit before struggling on and then getting kneecapped again
Zekrom should also be randomized, yes. I'm hoping it's not Arceus again because that means I don't have a safe out if it is lol.

>>53864579
you say that just as Klang starts sweeping all of Relic Castle for me, lol
Gear Grind + Autotomize (which I just realized is Autotomize and not Automatize) is weirdly busted, wtf?

storyanon

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storyanon Sat 27 May 2023 03:37:46 No.53864798 Report

Quoted By: >>53867291 >>53869162

one last complaint before I clock out because I need to get it off my chest
I am really fucking sick of getting the absolute worst encounter in EVERY SINGLE area without fail before promptly being taunted by the best as my immediate next encounter

here's how the last few went, for a demonstration (some might be better than others just due to me preferring their designs):
>encountered a Seviper as my first, Zorua as my second
>encountered a Pachirisu as my first, Ferrothorn as my second
>encountered a Gulpin as my first, Archen as my second
>encountered a Stunky as my first, Axew as my second
i'll stop there but it's seriously starting to grate me

I'm happy with using the underappreciated as long as I enjoy their designs, but so far I strongly dislike most of my box and it's dogshit in combat to boot
the appeal of the game to me lies in large part due to being able to use a bunch of really cool creatures that I personally enjoy so getting shafted like this on a constant basis feels like shit
and constantly taunting me with some of my favorites (Archeops and Haxorus are in my top 10 of all time) coming directly after encounters I'm mediocre on at best feels like pouring a bucket of salt into a papercut

Shit sux
anyways, that's the last of my complaining

>>53864579
I forgot to congratulate you on the run. I am now congratulating you on the run. congrats! Very interesting team there, I don't think I've ever seen someone keep an Ambipom on the team very long. Whenever i've gone up against one it's been hell to fight, but is it actually good on a player's team or is the AI just really skilled with monkeys for some weird reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 03:50:25 No.53864848 Report

Quoted By: >>53865053

Seibold:
>Shelly leads with Petal Dance, KO'ing Clawitzer and bringing Gyarados down to half as it Dragon Dances, switch to Xalvo who tanks two Waterfalls but flinches on the second, panic switch into Poseiden then Salvador, who tanks Earthquake and finishes with Thunderbolt. Barbaracle X-Scissors as Salvador tanks with Reflect, switch back into Shelly who Petal Dances it and Starmie (after a crit off a Full Heal) for the win
Drasna:
>Salvador leads with Light Screen and one shots Dragalge, switch into Poseidon tanking Dragon Pulse from Altaria, one shot it and Noivern with Ice Beam, Druddigon survives and hits with Revenge, leaving Poseidon on 49 HP, securing victory with another Ice Beam
Wikstrom:
>Amadeus leads and KO's Klefki after it lays out Spikes, Probopass gets a special atk drop thanks to Mystical Fire and wastes a Full Restore before falling to Flamethrower alongside Scizor, predict Aegislash uses Shadow Claw and switch into Firestar, who risks Overheat missing and one shots
Malva:
>Poseidon Surfed everything, only taking damage from an early switch in Talonflame and Brave Bird

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 04:50:24 No.53865053 Report

Quoted By: >>53865243

>>53864848
Diantha:
Amadeus oneshots Hawlucha with Psychic, switch into Xalvo tanking Head Smash from Tyrantrum, finishing it with Moonblast.
Salvador comes in on a Light Screen from Amaura and sets up his own, critting with Psychic and scoring the debuff while it Reflects, taking it down with another Psychic. Predicting a Ghost type move, Gourgiest uses Trick or Treat instead, and Firestar oneshots with Overheat.
Shelly comes in to fight Goodra off Muddy Water, getting lowered accuracy on Shelly, who puts Goodra in healing range. The battle devolves into a miss fest with Fire Blast and Moonblast, before Shelly can waste most of the Full Restores, dodging a Focus Blast for the kill.
Gardevoir comes out and Mega Evolves, it and Shelly trade Moonblasts and stalling with Wish and Lucky Chant, switch into Amadeus to bait Shadow Ball, then into Firestar for Noble Roar, Salvador returns to Light Screen, back into Amadeus for Mystical Fire, switch into Poseidon, one last Full Restore, Surf crits, Poseidon tanks Thunderbolt and finishes with Surf.
I honestly can't believe it's over. I'll give Diantha and the Elite 4 credit, they put up a bit of a fight, compared to most of the gym leaders anyway. Xalvo really didn't do much, that's not really his fault thanks to a flinch, but it's kind of a shame to use a Legendary once, but i guess he made it a good use. This feels like a long post, to the endings and replies will be in the next one.

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 05:43:05 No.53865243 Report

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>>53865053
You would think i'd remember to include the image before i post by now.
>Amadeus was forced to retire from battling. He would later settle down and have triplets, and was slightly miffed when they mastered the fireball before age two.
>Poseidon, at peace with himself, left Kalos to live with his new family. His smile was genuine and he lived a life of laughter.
>Firestar moved in with Alan. She never forgave Serena for her part in killing Loretta.
>Shelly left Kalos behind and joined Alan, still the only human she liked, in his travels. Every year, she made a pilgrimage to route 11 to pay her respects to her departed friends.
>Salvador, learning all he could in Kalos, said his farewells and traveled with Alan. He would later on be taught by Sabrina for a year.
>Xalvo, his debt repaid, left the party to travel the world after offering to revive one of the fallen. He was always ready to answer Alan's call for help.
>Fireflights flame burnt out far too early. He was buried on route 11, just outside the cave where he died.
>Loretta's death shook the party, only a few steps from their goal. She was buried beside Fireflight on route 11. Alan swears he saw the pair watching the parade from a ledge, him perched on her head once more.
>Alan left Kalos a champion, but also scarred. After four journies in a row, he elected to stay home for his vacation, and he got a much needed break before his next journey.
So what's next? Wario Land 3, then i'll be back with a run i've never seen before. I' curious, did anyone pick out the naming references in my team?
>>53864579
Thanks, shame about Weezing. Arbok would be more useful if it had Intimidate, but i don't think it would have helped against Lance that much.
>>53864592
And people shit on it for being a gear with eyes. Good on it.
It sounds like your encounters are taking the brunt of the bad luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 13:46:20 No.53866378 Report

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Bump.

storyanon

storyanon Sat 27 May 2023 14:21:57 No.53866516 Report

Quoted By: >>53866967

(apologies for the unwarranted rant yesterday, I was exhausted. Probably should not have been at the computer.)

>>53865243
Yeah, pretty much
It's a shame, but I'm gonna push through regardless
Maybe I'll start getting some mon I like more near the end, or Mavis will become on-level enough for me to see her in battle often enough to compensate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 16:03:59 No.53866967 Report

Quoted By: >>53867104

>>53866516
I think the worst part is, thanks to the randomizer, you can't just repel trick to get something since you have no idea what it'll be. Maybe you think that's cheating, i don't know. I guess you gotta be unlucky somewhere, it's shinies for me.

storyanon

storyanon Sat 27 May 2023 16:30:23 No.53867104 Report

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>>53866967
yeah, repel trick doesn't do jack lol
Not like it matters since, as you said, the encounter tables are totally random and I've got no clue what'll happen
It's why I was pissed specifically at the fact that I somehow kept getting the same pattern over and over and over again
Since it's supposed to be random and all haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 17:03:31 No.53867291 Report

Quoted By: >>53867764

>>53864798
>I don't think I've ever seen someone keep an Ambipom on the team very long. Whenever i've gone up against one it's been hell to fight, but is it actually good on a player's team or is the AI just really skilled with monkeys for some weird reason?
Haven't run one in a Nuzlocke, but have done so in regular runs. Ambipom is nice, but I feel like the frailty would harm it pretty bad in Nuzlockes.
>Pros:
-Ambipom hits really hard with Return.
-Some nice support options like Tickle
- Can do Agility or Nasty Plot Baton Passes and let another mon sweep(gen 4). Later gens can pass Atk as well.
-From gen 6 onwards(sort of Gen 5 too), it has some really nice coverage option thanks to Technician.
-Can provide you with great stuff while still being a competent battler(Pickup)
>Cons
-Technician is lacking in options in earlier gens
-Lacks Physical setup moves in gen 4.
-Ambipom suffers from being frail, much like Infernape in DPP, but Infernape can usually make up for this by oneshotting with powerful super-effective STAB moves or using Bulk Up, while Ambipom can't quite oneshot as well with STAB Return.

Ronja

Ronja Sat 27 May 2023 18:31:16 No.53867764 Report

Quoted By: >>53868297

>>53867291
Technician Ambipom is a good user of Natural Gift in Gen 4, especially in HGSS where you have access to all the type resist berries through mom

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 19:02:50 No.53867950 Report

Quoted By: >>53868575 >>53868618 >>53869162

Starting an autism run of all games. Are there any mons I should consider saving for later games/gens? Should I try to use all the fodder/filler mons in earlier gens when they're most useful?

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 20:12:16 No.53868288 Report

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Jesus fuck I nearly lost my whole run to the stretch of routes North of Cerulean. Stoley barely made it with 1HP.

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 20:14:16 No.53868297 Report

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>>53867764
Didn't think of that, you're right.

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 21:15:26 No.53868575 Report

Quoted By: >>53869265

>>53867950
Nidoking and Nidoqueen should be saved at least until Yellow since they only learn Double Kick there, i would wait to pop Gyarados until it can learn Dragon Dance at least, so gen 3 or 4, Magnezone obliterates Roxie in BW2, and i'm pretty sure is one of the best Pokémon available in that pair of games, X and Y lets you get Bagon before the second gym, maybe Slaking in gen 3 to take advantage of physical Hyper Beam, Golem is one of the best mons for Johto thanks to checking Miltank, and you should save an Alolan Rattata for USUM.
On the flipside, i think Ledian is at its best in gen 2, one of our autismlocke guys actually took it to endgame, and you might consider removing the Virbank Complex encounters so you guarantee Magnemite. Gible is pretty rare too and is dependent on getting Bronzor to ensure an encouter, assuming you've champion claused Onyx and Zubat too, Bronzor should be used before gen 6 to take advantage of its resistances before Steel got nerfed, especially if you can score Levitate in Sinnoh.

storyanon

storyanon Sat 27 May 2023 21:25:21 No.53868618 Report

Quoted By: >>53869265

>>53867950
Try and use whatever's most useful in whatever gen when it's most useful
A lot of gen 1/2 mons are best before gen 4 (when power creep begins), with special emphasis on very fast gen 1 mon or ones that rely on wrap because of how broken RBY is.

Persian, Victreebel, Dugtrio, Electrode- these four are especially great and their movesets don't get much better as generations go on, so I'd recommend spending them in gen 1. (I would also recommend mon like Scyther or Aerodactyl, but their movesets are AWFUL in gen 1 and they get way way better later, even if Aerodactyl is stupidly hard to obtain). Psychic types are a given, but a lot of gen 1's are actually pretty good later on so the only ones i'd truly recommend are Hypno or Jynx due to very sparse distribution in later generations (as well as Jynx being one of the only viable counters to Dragon in Kanto).

Gyarados shits all over gen 4 (although it's great anywhere), Swampert is great in gen 3, almost everything you can get on Route 4/Desert Resort in Unova eats the rest of the game for breakfast (save for maybe Yamask and Maractus).

As for decent common encounters- Tentacruel is underestimated but incredible due to its special defenses and speed, Raticate is probably one of the only mammals that's genuinely viable past the fourth gym leader (primarily due to the Fang moves and especially how early it gets them), Staraptor and Shinx are abused relentlessly in Sinnoh for damn good reason and Lillipup's line is extremely reliable everywhere.

In the end, though, it's honestly up to you on what you want to do with your run. I would strongly recommend distributing your encounters in a way that lets you use at least a single mon you like in each championship team so that you don't totally burn out, but that's operating off of my own way of play which is usually to use what I like. If you'd rather focus on optimization that's totally fair (but I can't help much haha). Good luck regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 23:25:04 No.53869162 Report

Quoted By: >>53869265 >>53870030

>>53864798
>I am now congratulating you on the run. congrats!
Thank you, but the run isn't over yet. I still need to beat Red.
Ambipom is decent but I probably would have switched to Tauros if the one I caught wasn't modest with anger point. Ambipom has similar attack and speed to Tauros but it's much more frail, especially compared to a Tauros with intimidate.

>>53867950
I can give you some of my thoughts as someone that's about halfway done with their own autism run.
There are a handful of Pokemon that are generally very good and usable in a lot of games that you should consider saving until you feel like you really need them. These include Gyarados, Magneton/Magnezone, Tentacruel, Crobat, Gengar, Snorlax, Golem and Steelix.
Some Pokemon are bad in earlier gens but get buffs at some point so you should wait until they get buffed. For example Azumarill is pretty bad until the physical/special split in DP, Scizor's moveset is shit until Platinum and Mawile is normally awful but its mega evolution is excellent.
There are some Pokemon that should be saved for specific games. Like the other anon said keep Rattata for USUM. Porygon is kind of a pain to get in most games except Platinum. Aerodactyl isn't really worth using until XY where you can get it and its mega stone really early on. If you're including Legends Arceus save Ursaring so you can use Ursaluna.
More generally, try not to use too many early route Pokemon too soon because it can make the start of future runs harder than they need to be. Also don't be afraid to use "bad" Pokemon.
Most importantly, remember to have fun, and good luck.

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2023 23:45:38 No.53869265 Report

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Barely scraped by Misty. Since I play on Set I had to sacrifice one of my guys in order to let Drillbo be at 100% vs Misty's Starmie.
I have severely underestimated this game's brutality. I did not expect to lose so many mons this early on.

>>53868575
>>53868618
>>53869162
Thanks for the tips, I'll be using them in future games. In this one I'm just gonna try to survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 02:57:20 No.53870030 Report

Quoted By: >>53870064 >>53870192

>>53869162
Is it normal to ban full evolutionary lines even if you haven't used the full line (e.g: banning the Magby line after Crystal when Magmorter is still available in Platinum) for autismlockes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 03:06:38 No.53870064 Report

Quoted By: >>53870689

>>53870030
That's how I do it but you don't have to do it that way if you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 03:49:12 No.53870192 Report

Quoted By: >>53870689

>>53870030
That's what I do. Usually these mons aren't even that good in their original state, so I wouldn't use them otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 06:55:21 No.53870689 Report

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>>53870064
>>53870192
I've floated the idea of an autismlock, but that would be a very large undertaking, not to mention i'd have to go through Johto (the region i've nuzlocked the most so far) twice more. And i do champion clause Pokémon i've used, but for general runs and only up to the evolution available in that game. Using Golem three times in a row will make you consider new rules.

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Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 10:57:05 No.53871201 Report

Quoted By: >>53871373 >>53879568 >>53888441

>>53810669
The Random elements of Nuzlocke and Permadeath really do give it a very Rogue-like feel don't they?

What would you strip away from the Pokemon experience to make a pure Nuzlocke focused game a lot more enjoyable?

I definitely think that if you can cut the grinding down significantly so that it's easier to jump into a new run, and encourage death, you'd improve the experience a lot.

Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 12:00:04 No.53871373 Report

Quoted By: >>53871416

>>53871201
Strip down story elements to bare minimum.
Maybe instead of typical tour through region and league, player would be exploring semi-randomized dungeons. That would make it even more similar to classic Roguelikes.

Also yes, eliminating level up mechanics would make "just grind harder" not an option, without using some retarded ideas like level caps. But then you would need to introduce different progression system for stats, moves and evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 12:23:44 No.53871416 Report

Quoted By: >>53871426

>>53871373
>need to introduce different progression system for

What about a system where monsters, rather than learning moves through level up, they instead learn them from a skill tree. And the way you unlock more skill points is through the use of items (like a rare candy if you will). So pumping a single point into a monster will guarantee a move essentially. The skill tree could also include new unlocks for abilities, and even stat boosts. So now choosing to focus your build down a certain path means you'll have to plan your progression through that skill tree, using your limited candies effectively.

I think an EV system is also a pretty good fit for a rogue-like. Since typically you get to choose your path in these sorts of games. Likewise, there's always an inherent risk reward in battling, as healing items are limited, so there's that decision making in place as to whether to do a bit of EV grinding or to move on. Doubly so if you include "gotcha" monster encounters meant to punish players trying to abuse the grind. Like the ghost in Spelunky. i.e. a very powerful, hard to escape and likely impossible to kill encounter that has a higher chance of showing up the more monsters you've beaten in a dungeon floor.

IVs and Natures also probably stay as well, as their randomized variety are a good fit for the varied style gameplay of Rogue-likes.

How you obtain monsters will have to change. Since the goal is to limit the quantity of monsters a player can get, as well as add some variety. So, new monsters should be a sort of reward you get already caught, as well as things you can buy at a shop, and the like. Perhaps you can make it so that defeating random encounters in the dungeon unlocks those monsters for purchase/event acquisition. And you could probably even go one step further and have it so that the more of the same monster you defeat over your runs, the higher likelyhood you have of getting one with very good IVs.

As for evolution, it's all item based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 12:26:26 No.53871426 Report

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>>53871416
Also, completing a run means you get to keep the monsters you've obtained. And playing through the game unlocks more facilities in the hub to help modify the mons for perfect builds for both a boss rush single player mode and multiplayer.

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Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 14:52:55 No.53871918 Report

Quoted By: >>53872060

stop brainstorming a cooler version of Nuzlockes that we'll never have

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Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 15:30:45 No.53872060 Report

Quoted By: >>53872633

>>53871918
I'm asking cause I'm considering making it. I've been mulling over this for a couple weeks now. Started drafting out some systems on paper. Been going over what you can do with RPG Maker MV, etc...

The only difference is that I'm using Yugioh monsters rather than Pokemon.

There's a wide array of really cool monsters in Yugioh, and the aesthetic is more to my taste personally. Converting card art into Sprites is pretty easy as well.

This also helps me drop a lot of the baggage and expectations that comes with making a Pokemon fangame, while still borrowing whatever I like from Pokemon rather freely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:55:53 No.53872633 Report

Quoted By: >>53872729 >>53874041

>>53872060
Would be neat. When I was a kid, and I was alone, I would play with my cards as if they were Pokemon.
Who would be the starters?

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Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 18:24:19 No.53872729 Report

Quoted By: >>53872744

>>53872633
>Who would be the starters?

I feel the most logical lineup would be to give people a pick between one of the ace monsters for every major character from the OG DM era.

Blue-Eyes W. Dragon
Dark Magician
Flame Swordsman

Seems like the best call. It's also a clean split between Dragon/Spellcaster/Warrior, and White, Black, and Fire Magic. It's also easy to break up those three into different stat distributions and preferred strategies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 18:28:07 No.53872744 Report

Quoted By: >>53872828

>>53872729
>Flame Swordsman
>Joey's ace
What. Thousand Year Dragon, Red Eyes, and Jinzo are more iconic IMO.
Would there still be evolutions? Some lines work very well for that imo, like the Dark Magicians and the White Eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 18:45:42 No.53872828 Report

Quoted By: >>53872856

>>53872744
In Duelist Kingdom, Flame Swordsman was often depicted as Joey's ace. I agree Red-Eyes and Jinzo are more iconic, but he gets those from other duelists.

And yeah, I worked out how you'd have fusions, rituals, and a sort of evolution. Several monsters in the card game hace retrains, and multiple versions with new effects. So that's an easy one. Essentially the equivalent to item evolution in Pokemon. You can permanently transform your monster into a new monster during your run. So for example, Celtic Guardian can become Fierce Celtic Guardian, or Dark Magician Girl can become Magi Magi Magician Gal, etc....

Fusion, there are two ways to tackle it, so I'll have to decide by what's feasible.

Basically, my idea for what to do with the spells and traps is pretty straightforward, a lot of them work perfectly as the moves for the monsters can learn. A lot already have their signature moves AS spell cards, such as Dark Magic Attack or Burst Stream Lightning. This also means that for example, Summoned Skull can learn Raigeki. Hinotama for example works well as a Flame move, etc... Mirror Force is now also a learnable move, etc...

For the spells that don't quite make a lot of sense as moves, like Polymerization for example. Well, they're items. Or rather, what are items in Pokemon are now called "spell cards" and they're either single or multi-use. So rather than a revive, you have Monster Reborn. So with Polymerization, that's how you do fusion. The question is, is it temporary during battle, or permanent and out of battle. That's gonna have to be something I try out when making it.

As for ritual monsters, again, because spell cards are items, the ritual spells are essentially the key to getting one. You sacrifice the right materials and you get a Ritual Monster in return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 18:50:59 No.53872856 Report

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>>53872828
As for the other extra deck forms, it's a big ??? In all likelyhood, I'd probably just add them in directly without doing anything fancy. But it's also the reason I'm mostly doing DM era stuff.

Like, for example if I were to add in Sky Striker, I'd just make Raye the monster, have Engage be a move she has, and when she uses it, she transforms during battle into one if her many link forms. She's pretty easy.

However, interpreting Syncro seems like more of a hassle than it's worth, when in all likelyhood, people would probably also just prefer to have Stardust Dragon directly.

Either way, DM era alone already gives me at least 200+ monsters to work with not counting rituals and fusions, so no point in jumping far ahead unless it's to grab a card here it there for a move or monster that's part of cards from DM era, such as Blue Eyes Alternative or Chaos Max, or Dark Magician the Dragon Knight or Red Eyes Dark Dragoon.

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Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 19:41:13 No.53873045 Report

Quoted By: >>53875658

Being so busy IRL, my motivation has admittedly been waning. I finished my Platinum run at a snail's pace, and started Crystal now. Whitney did me in. I was not prepared. I thought Rocky would be able to manage her Miltank, but at some point Rollout took him down from 50%.

I had to throw Oregano and Summer at her to scrape by. I was too scared of a Hypnosis miss to send in McCabre.

>>53842195
Wow, you weren't kidding about Spinda. So glad to see it make it all the way. Congrats on that deathless run, and best of luck with Sapphire! Work and uni have been absolutely killing me this past month, but I'm still popping in now and again to see where you're at!

>>53842901
Cute team! I love Azumarill. I wish I had encountered one during my Y run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 23:58:37 No.53874041 Report

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>>53872633
Funny, i did the same thing except i pretended i was playing Chaotic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 03:04:15 No.53874829 Report

Quoted By: >>53874896 >>53875019 >>53875658

Thread question: least favorite region to Nuzlocke and why?

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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 03:18:12 No.53874896 Report

Quoted By: >>53875242

>>53864579
I never replaced Weezing after the E4, instead I kept Raticate around for cut to get through Kanto. I ended up sacrificing Raticate to safely switch Girafarig in to Erika's Victreebel. Then I kept a Metapod to sacrifice for a safe switch and used it against Blue. Unfortunately that's not the only death against Blue because his Arcanine killed both my Ambipom and itself with a crit flare blitz. It really sucks to lose a Pokemon I've been using for so long in the second to last battle in the run.
I'll be using rare candies for Red since it would take way too long to grind manually at this point.

>>53865243
Congrats

>>53874829
Probably Orre for reasons I explained in an earlier post >>53838708
I don't have a clear least favorite from the main series but I haven't done a nuzlocke of Galar or Paldea yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 03:41:29 No.53875019 Report

Quoted By: >>53878243

>>53874829
Unova by far. If I'm doing an autismlocke and it's growing stale during the Gen 1 to 4 span, I can just jump into BW knowing it won't affect any of the previous gens due to its locked dex. Alternatively, once I'm done with Gen 1 through 4 and BW, I get to enjoy the great variety of the BW2 dex.

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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:29:56 No.53875242 Report

Quoted By: >>53875658 >>53881314

>>53874896
Well Red was easy. Steelix easily took care of Pikachu. Lanturn took out his Blastoise but nearly died to hail damage afterward. Noctowl blocked a sleep powder with insomnia then KOd Venusaur. Hitmontop took a brine from Lapras and KOd it with a close combat after fake out. I have no idea why Lapras didn't use blizzard while Noctowl was still out but Hitmontop would have been fine anyway, as long as he didn't freeze. After that Relicanth spammed head smash to KO both Charizard and Snorlax to give me the win.
I'm a little disappointed that Girafarig didn't get a good opportunity to partake in the final battle but I can't complain with how smoothly it went.
I'm excited to move on to Black. It's been a while since I've played gen 5 and I have a whole bunch of new Pokemon to use.

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Ronja Mon 29 May 2023 06:00:59 No.53875658 Report

Quoted By: >>53875839 >>53881314

Welp, that's our second game over, all because Chippendip missed THREE BULLET SEEDS IN A ROW from a single Sand Attack, some straight up bullshit, but then again that's what I get for being greedy and not taking Ian with me

>>53875242
Nice going rounding out Gen 4!

>>53874829
Galar by a mile, I did one nuzlocke of it and it's the least fun I've ever had nuzlocking a Pokemon game
but to give an answer for the games that aren't total garbage, it's honestly probably Johto, moreso Gen 2. The mon variety is super low, the grinding is intensive, every trainer is either laughably easy or terrifying, the level spikes are crazy, overall not the greatest time

>>53873045
That Miltank has a reputation for a reason, I'm glad you managed to get through at least! And loving the addition of Sunflora, feel like you barely ever see that on a team

>Congrats on that deathless run, and best of luck with Sapphire!
Well about that, lmao
but yeah, Spinda really put in work, fully EV trained in Attack, full power STAB Return manages to put in work even from 60 base Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 06:46:34 No.53875839 Report

Quoted By: >>53876373

>>53875658
Yeah, that's some bullshit alright. I thought i had bad luck with evasion strats in the past, that takes the cake.

Ronja

Ronja Mon 29 May 2023 09:37:02 No.53876373 Report

Quoted By: >>53877092

>>53875839
Right? The worst part is that had I just used Nature Power -> Swift, then I would've won. Brawly's Makuhita had used a Bulk Up so I thought "there's no way a Swift will do enough", which I'm pretty sure it wouldn't, but two might've

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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 13:38:42 No.53877092 Report

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>>53876373
It's hard to say. Swift probably could have done more damage than Bullet Seed depending on RNG, even with the added defense from Bulk Up. I don't know.

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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 15:09:15 No.53877568 Report

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i don't know why i decided to be a special snowflake and make a custom one when it ended up looking tacky anyways despite it taking a good long while to make it. i guess tacky might just be what i should be going for, given the poison typing. i'm also seeing an error on the clod sire's tera type but i'll just fix it in the updated version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 17:11:52 No.53878243 Report

Quoted By: >>53878820

>>53875019
anon, I think you misread the question...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 18:42:29 No.53878820 Report

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>>53878243
It sounds to me he uses Unova to break up the monotony but enjoys the BW2 dex better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 20:42:12 No.53879568 Report

Quoted By: >>53880994

>>53871201
>game a lot more enjoyable?
Speed, optionality, qols, custom mon, just remove the walking desu. I tend to overwalk cause I want the game itself to be sped up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 20:59:12 No.53879676 Report

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>>53810669
Just a friendly reminder that the 1fichier links in the links to official games pastebin no longer work and need to be updated

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 23:57:19 No.53880789 Report

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Bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 00:44:31 No.53880994 Report

Quoted By: >>53883783

>>53879568
>Speed
Agreed
>Optionality
Meaning?
>qol
Agreed
>custom mon
I don't follow, in what sense?
>just remove the walking desu. I tend to overwalk cause I want the game itself to be sped up.
Yeah, I've heard similar things from other Nuzlockers. The entire thing is a challenge boss run, though I do think you want a small degree of exploration to add to the experience. It's why I think a sort of rogue-like approach might be the best for the experience.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 00:50:43 No.53881034 Report

Quoted By: >>53881314 >>53883883 >>53885778 >>53886128 >>53889551

>>53852622
>>53851218
Seems like I actually did beat Olivia sll those months ago, I just didn't post that update at the time.
(this particular text below was written months ago)
>It was a while since this match, and I lost my original notes, but I think this is how it went. >Vs Olivia
Vs Olivia
>Anorith
Used Shampoo the Combusken(Eviolite)
Smack Down, Work Up
Smack Down, Flame Charge
Smack Down, Brick Break
>Lileep
Baton Pass to Powalski the Grovyle w Expert Belt), Brine
Brick Break, Ancient power
Brick Break, Ancient power (might have been a crit)
Brick Break
>Lycanrock-Midnight
Leaf Blade Oneshot(Crit?)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 01:55:44 No.53881314 Report

Quoted By: >>53883339 >>53892649

>>53875242
Black is going well so far. Not much else to say this early on.

>>53875658
RIP. Sand attack really is bullshit sometimes.
>>53881034
That's a really nice template. Did you make it yourself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 06:51:55 No.53882655 Report

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Bump.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 11:03:26 No.53883248 Report

Quoted By: >>53883306 >>53884747

I'm at Ecruteak, slowly preparing myself to explore Burned Tower and take on Morty. I don't really have any good plan against him so I guess just spamming status from Fuwah and blasting his ghost with Fire Blast and/or Thunder will need to be enough.
I may also just box someone to train Raticate but ehh... not sure about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 11:31:06 No.53883306 Report

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>>53883248
Ah yeah, I also have Adamant Magikarp cooking in Daycare. Not sure if I have enough cash to get it out from there but I guess that's an option. But I'm not really sure if I want to use Gyarados, it's kinda cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 11:49:05 No.53883339 Report

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>>53881314
>>53881314
>That's a really nice template. Did you make it yourself?
Yeah.

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Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 14:14:46 No.53883783 Report

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>>53880994
>The entire thing is a challenge boss run,
yeah. Add auto pathing like Soul Guardian has. It's nice to at least see your character move around the world and the route design does add to the experience as a whole. But it's simply annoying trying to get through 1 tile gaps or hit that 1 tile ladder.
>I don't follow, in what sense?
Allow anyone, meaning anyone, to add in their own pokemon with ease. Then allow people to set the rarity of these per group. Say Unova pokemon have a 0.01% chance of spawning in the wild in Kanto. And Zinco pokemon have a 4% chance of spawning. Stuff like that. Making custom pokemon as rare as you want. I meant the same with optionality: having pokemon bst's dependent on how many badges you have or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 14:38:47 No.53883883 Report

Quoted By: >>53884747

>>53881034
Just realized that I forgot to change Tim's Hex for Shadow Bone on this update. Whoops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 17:32:58 No.53884747 Report

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>>53883248
This is a good place to have your lead hold a Chesto Berry to survive Morty's Hypnosis strats. Also keep in mind you can't cheese his stronger Haunter and Gengar with normal types because of Sucker Punch, but Skye could probably solo them as long as you spam Sand Attack because they can't hurt her otherwise, even when she's asleep due to how Sucker Punch works. I would also give Skye a healing item to balance the Sucker Punches she'll take on occasion. It'll probably take awhile to win through all the Hypnosis, but i think this will keep your team alive.
>>53883883
I do it all the time, even when i check over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 20:20:34 No.53885778 Report

Quoted By: >>53886128

>>53881034
What does the red text around Butterfree mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 21:32:49 No.53886128 Report

Quoted By: >>53887167 >>53889551

>>53881034
Completely forgot about the two golfers(Tina and Tara) in the Hano Resort and the Double Oricorio fight.
I managed to get rid of the Psychic Oricorio turn 1(Thick Club Shadow Bone), but Ranma the Zorua died and Tim was brought into the red by double Air Cutters. I then had to swap around most of my other mons as Akane Headbutted the electric one down, as none could take more than a single hit(except Akane). I was worried I'd wipe, I have no idea how I came out of that with only 1 death.
>Akane was down to 2 HP
>>53885778
It is really just there for me to remember the utility it offers as a Compound Eyes Thief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 00:43:45 No.53887167 Report

Quoted By: >>53888106 >>53888572 >>53888998

>>53886128
How does Compound Eyes affect Thief if at all? Or are you just keeping track of your item stealer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 04:36:31 No.53888106 Report

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>>53887167
>Can't trade Rotom over to HG for a form change because it loses its foem in qifi rooms
>The only legit way to get them in Platinum is an event that hasn't been run for over a decade
GameFreaks horrible planning strikes again. This does relate to Nuzlockes because i was planning to use a form in a future run. I guess i'll have to breed for one to use in HG or White.

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Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 06:28:42 No.53888441 Report

Quoted By: >>53888487

>>53871201
I think I'll take a different approach from the other anon and suggest an often overlooked part of nuzlocking: getting attached to your guys.
So here's a few changes.
1. All battles should be either double/triple battles for the purposes of the next changes.
2. Pokemon nature now matters much more, as they will give your Pokemon a personality, i.e. your Timid Dratini will act differently from your Naughty Skorupi. Your nature, along with determining your increased and decreased stats, will also give a different positive and/or negative effect depending on the nature. Here's a few examples:
>Careful: Increases hit rate, but uses items like Sitrus Berries much earlier.
>Brave: Dramatically increases the damage of the first attack this Pokemon does in battle, but is more likely to be affected by move side-effects (i.e. getting Paralyzed by a Body Slam).
>Adamant: Utilizing the same move again will increase the damage it deals (similar to using the Metronome item), but using a different attack will decrease it's attack or hit rate (if it's a status move).
3. Your entire party will interact with each other after certain events or fights such as gym leaders or rivals. In these interactions, your Pokemon can either get along with each other or dislike each other, which will have certain effects in battle (think Miitopia). For example, Gentle and Timid Pokemon get along, while Hasty and Lax Pokemon don't get along.
>If your Pokemon get along, they'll get a certain buff when fighting together like higher crit chance, or if they're REALLY close, they can tough out a move or take a hit for their friend.
>If your Pokemon DON'T get along, they might get a debuff like lower speed or lower evasion.
Certain events can also cause changes. Here's an example:
>Calm Snivy and Lax Phanpy get along. However, the Lax Phanpy dies while fighting alongside your Starly. Your Snivy will now dislike your Starly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 06:41:27 No.53888487 Report

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>>53888441
4. On the case of death, more things can happen.
>Your Cinccino and Pelipper are good friends; however, the Pelipper got crit and unfortunately died. In response, your Cinccino gets an omniboost out of rage.
>In addition, the Cinccino will grieve during after-battle interactions, which might affect later battles. Suppose that your Pelipper died in a rival battle; your Cinccino will now have a permanent grudge against your rival which can cause effects depending on your Pokemon's personality. If your Cinccino is Haughty, it might have a flat damage boost but might be more likely to get crit, but if your Cinccino is Hardy, it might get a flat defense boost but might move slower.
5. Interactions, both in-battle and out of battle, can fix or break relationships.
>For example, your Krookodile and Lurantis get along, but hitting your ally Lurantis with one too many Earthquakes might cause your Lurantis to no longer get along with your Krookodile.
>However, if you, say, take them both to participate in the Pokemon Musical or Pokeathlon and have them work with each other, they might fix their relationship.

I think this approach encourages sticking with the same team, instead of just switching around. So while someone playing to optimize their gameplay might not enjoy this approach, I think it works fine to try and keep the main idea of "getting attached to your pokemon" that the first Nuzlocke was all about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 07:25:14 No.53888572 Report

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>>53887167
Compoundeyes increases the chance of wild Pokemon holding an item (from Emerald onwards) so having a Thief Pokemon with it makes hunting for items like Heart Scales much more manageable

Ronja

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Ronja Wed 31 May 2023 10:54:48 No.53888994 Report

Quoted By: >>53892649

Sweet revenge is ours! After restarting the game and getting back to where we were, I had the brains to actually add in another teammate instead of going in with just one (that could handle one Fighting attack). Pimbus actually managed to sweep the gym damageless, Machop losing a turn to paralysis and Makuhita trying to fuck Pimbus over with Sand Attack, but going down to a second Spark
Let's hope the rival goes over just as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 10:58:38 No.53888998 Report

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>>53887167
>if a Pokémon with this Ability leads the party (even if fainted), the chances of finding a wild Pokémon holding an item increase from 50%/5% to 60%/20%
For some rarer items held by wild mons, this is extremely helpful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 14:44:24 No.53889551 Report

Quoted By: >>53890594 >>53890786

>>53881034
>>53886128
Planning to put Mareanie on the squad long term, but that makes me extremely weak to Ground. And that double battle also made me aware of how weak I am against a strong Flying type.
Considering dropping either Shampoo(Ground and Flying Weakness) or Tim(another ground weakness).
Don't really like benching my makeshift "starter", but getting to run an Alolan Marowak with Shadow Bone is something I haven't done before, and it has both weaknesses I'm trying to dodge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 16:56:45 No.53890095 Report

Quoted By: >>53890594

FUCK luminescent platinum
gardenia keeps wiping me with her goddamn sun team chlorophyll bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 18:56:22 No.53890594 Report

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>>53889551
I hate what they did to fishing from SM onwards.
>>53890095
Is there something preventing a fire type fron sweeping? I have no knowledge of romhacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 19:39:05 No.53890786 Report

Quoted By: >>53891951 >>53892400

>>53889551
The second Mareanie evolves, it's just over. If you're willing to take things slow, it is just never going to die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 00:00:37 No.53891951 Report

Quoted By: >>53892400

>>53890786
What makes Toxapex so good? Just having great defenses and an ability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 01:25:51 No.53892400 Report

Quoted By: >>53892510

>>53890786
I actually lost a Toxapex in an Ultra run before.
It is an insane defensive powerhouse though, maybe I should abstain from using it...
>>53891951
On the defensive end, it has a fantastic typing and 50/152/142 defenses. Also has Recover, so it can heal itself even if items are banned.
With Merciless as an ability, it also has pretty decent offense in game because it can run Baneful Bunker or Toxic into Guaranteed Critical hit Double Power Venoshocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 01:47:14 No.53892510 Report

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>>53892400
Before I did Nuzlockes, I did my runs with zero grinding. I didn't plan my teams out for balance either, just whatever I wanted to use.
For SM, you're at least 10 levels below the E4 if memory serves, and Toxapex hard carried a team of mostly middling Pokemon.
Definitely want to give it a try in a Nuzlocke one day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 02:22:19 No.53892649 Report

Quoted By: >>53893488 >>53894038 >>53896958

>>53881314
Lenora wasn't as bad as I thought she would be. Her Watchog went for hypnosis instead of a boosted retaliate after I KOd Herdier, so Blitzle didn't die. After that her paralyzed Watchog was easy enough to deal with.

>>53888994
>4 Zigzagoons
>5 Tentacools
Is that a mistake or did you really get that many of the same Pokemon already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 06:36:32 No.53893488 Report

Quoted By: >>53894038

>>53892649
I think it's intentional, he has the same number of Zigzagoon and Tenticool as his previous run.

Ronja

Ronja Thu 01 Jun 2023 11:14:56 No.53894038 Report

Quoted By: >>53895022

>>53892649
>>53893488
Indeed, the Zigzagoons were mostly through luck, thankfully they're not as uncommon as they are in Emerald, but the Tentacools were free thanks to champ clause (already having champed Gyarados, meaning the only thing I can catch in the ocean with an Old Rod is Tentacool)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 16:59:58 No.53895022 Report

Quoted By: >>53895818

>>53894038
The Zigzagoons i get, Pickup has some utility at least, but why all the Tenticools?

Ronja

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Ronja Thu 01 Jun 2023 19:50:30 No.53895818 Report

Quoted By: >>53898447

God I hate Magnet Pull
Thought I'd be able to take out Wattson's Magnemite and Voltorb with Pepper ezpz so that I could chuck Wumbus out against Magneton with full health. First part of that plan worked just fine, Pepper took care of the first two, but then when I went to go switch I was greeted with the horrifying message of Magnet Pull having trapped Pepper. The text might as well have read "you lost a mon, lmao". I've defeated Wattson with an Aron before, but that was with the full knowledge that I only had that option and would go into the fight fully EV trained in SpD (which is surprisingly easy to do with Macho Brace and wild Tentacools readily available), but no such luck this time. Pepper falls, and Wumpus does his final duty to the team by blowing the Magneton to high heavens. Sucks, but that's just the kinda thing that happens

>>53895022
I mean, why not, might as well pick them up so that if I ever want to use a Tentacool I can pick the best one (plus they look pretty funny all lined up like that)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 21:33:24 No.53896294 Report

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Restarting my blue nuzlocke again cause I feel in the mood for a mainline pokemon game right now so eh gonna keep that momentum right now so eh hopefully I stick thorough this time anyways here's the pre brock team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 21:33:28 No.53896295 Report

Quoted By: >>53896300

Four mons on top are my main team, six below are candidates for fifth and possibly sixth spot for the League run. What do you guys reccommend?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 21:34:29 No.53896300 Report

Quoted By: >>53896917 >>53896958 >>53897006 >>53897997

>>53896295
I'm an idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 00:22:16 No.53896917 Report

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>>53896300
Froslass to check Garchomp and Luxray (if Intimidate)/Empoleon for Spiritomb and Milotic.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 00:31:27 No.53896958 Report

Quoted By: >>53905576

>>53892649
This run is going pretty well so far. Burgh, N and Elesa all felt pretty easy. I'm pretty happy with the encounters I've gotten so far too.

>>53896300
Empoleon and Froslass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 00:43:56 No.53897006 Report

Quoted By: >>53897997

>>53896300
-Empoleon deals pretty well with everything on Cynthia's squad except Lucario and Chomp(getting outsped and KO'd), assuming it has Grass Knot for Milotic.
-Staraptor shits on Lucario and Roserade and cripples Garchomp's threat factor with Intimidate.
Those two mix well.
-Froslass can outspeed and oneshot Chomp and does well against Togekiss(assuming this is Platinum). Good against Roserade to with the right kit.
-Assuming it is Intimidate Luxray... Luxray does great against Spiritomb, Milotic and Togekiss. It also forms a great Intimidate pivot duo with Staraptor that will just make a joke out of Garchomp. Can also provide great defensive support for another mon with Light Screen since you cripple both of the opponents attacking stats.
-Haven't really used Houndoom in this game, and I feel like has way less to offer than any of the others
-Altaria can probably do something nasty with Dragon Dance, but I know less about it here than the others.
I'd say one of the following combos:
>Staraptor+Empoleon
>Staraptor+Luxray
>Froslass+Empoleon
>Froslass+Luxray
Froslass and Staraptor don't team that well with eachother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 04:41:14 No.53897997 Report

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>>53896300
Empoleon and Froslass for the reasons >>53897006 said for Cynthia as well as being good for 3/4 of the E4. Leafeon with those two will destroy Bertha, then Surf spam Flint and Shadow Ball spam Lucian.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 06:53:12 No.53898447 Report

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>>53895818
Fair enough. I've never seen that male to female ratio, good grief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 14:23:05 No.53899600 Report

Quoted By:

Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 18:22:29 No.53900632 Report

Quoted By: >>53902251 >>53905576

After finishing a Nuzlocke, how much of your box do you, personally, transfer to later games? All of them or just the ones you used/like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 21:33:44 No.53901539 Report

Quoted By: >>53901545 >>53913789 >>53916858

Visited Aether Paradise, where I fought Nihilego, and then landed at Ula'Ula' and fought Hau.
>Vs Nihilego
Trowzer the Steelix dealt handily with it, tanking two Headbutts and taking it out with two Bulldozes of its own.
I brought Trowzer onto the team for this particular part(Nihilego, Hau and I think Guzma later?)
>Vs Hau
>Brionne
Powalski hits it with Leaf Blade, but fails to oneshot, taking a BubbleBeam for his trouble. Hit way harder than I expected, too.
Giga Drain finishes off the seal.
>Flareon
I send in Shampoo on a Fire Fang.
My plan was to use Work Up and Flame Charge to boost, but I realize before actually using Flame Charge that Hau's Flareon might have Flash Fire(it does, by the way).
So instead, Shampoo just gets a Work Up in before Baton Passing(while eating two more Fire Fangs).
Tim comes in next, and Bonemerangs the Flareon into oblivion... after taking a Fire Fang.
>Noibat
It hits Tim with Bite, then falls to Shadow Bone.
>Alolan Raichu
I can either stay in and hope it won't take Tim out with Psychic, or at least try to play it safe with Trowzer. I go with the safer approach.
Psychic chunks Trowzer harder than I expect on the switch-in, and also causes a Sp.Def drop.
Another Psychic and Sp.Def Drop follows, and Trowzer is down to red health. A Bulldoze Crit takes Raichu out, thankfully. Not sure if the crit mattered, but still nice.
>Tauros
I know this thing has Pursuit. If I swap Trowzer out, Pursuit kills. But Trowzer's physical bulk is crazy, so staying in might let me land a Bulldoze and lessen the threat Tauros poses.
This turns out to be true, as Tauros Horn Attack reduces Trowzer to only 3 HP.
At this point, either Pursuit or Horn Attack kills, so I might as well switch out- either Trowzer lives, or I get a completely safe switch in.
It turns out to be Horn Attack again, and Akane takes that with ease.
The two normal-types keep exchanging Headbutts and Horn attacks until Tauros falls.
I'm honestly surprised noone died in that Hau fight.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2023 21:34:47 No.53901545 Report

Quoted By: >>53903806 >>53907283 >>53913789 >>53916858

>>53901539
Forgot the image.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 00:49:51 No.53902192 Report

Quoted By: >>53902513 >>53905576

Finished my first Red run the other day. Had many deaths to crits and selfdestructs/explosions. Final team was:
>Venusaur (Buddy)
>Cloyster (Venus)
>Weezing (Mr. B)
>Arbok (Knotts)
>Snorlax (Big Sloppa)
>Pidgeot (Dumpling)
Sadly, Big Sloppa ate shit during the fight with Blue, but he's still there in the Hall of Fame. He will be missed. Now I'm off to Blue. Wish me luck friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 01:01:37 No.53902251 Report

Quoted By:

>>53900632
Pretty much never, I mostly emulate though. I just enjoy the memories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 01:55:48 No.53902513 Report

Quoted By: >>53902670

>>53902192
I wish the person who made this image a very unpleasant evening

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 02:24:53 No.53902670 Report

Quoted By:

>>53902513
They have probably found it, worrying about such silly things, friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 07:03:27 No.53903806 Report

Quoted By: >>53904514

>>53901545
Trowzer is a permanent party member right? Because you forgot to remove him from the box list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 12:37:05 No.53904514 Report

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>>53903806
>Trowzer is a permanent party member right
He's not permanent(I try to update the list even with temporary team members), but he was on the main squad at this point. Thanks for noticing my mistake

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 15:29:25 No.53904969 Report

Quoted By: >>53905270

I'm back from being away for a few months (I thought my 3DS got banned from online play but it started working yesterday). I did a gen 1 nuzlocke but it was painfully easy. gen 2 nuzlocke was significantly more difficult. I think I'm going to do an Alpha Sapphire Wonderlocke just to dick around. I'm in the mood for something fun and easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 16:47:38 No.53905270 Report

Quoted By: >>53906064

>>53904969
I’m not even in Petelburg Woods yet and I already beat the game
>Route 101: treecko —> zigzagoon
>Route 102: zigzagoon —> skorupi
>Route 103: poochyena —> lombre
>Route 104: taillow —> (Lv. 100) genesect
this literally happened to me in my last OR wonderlocke when someone wondertraded me a Lv. 100 Volcanion kek

I guess I won’t use it for now to keep things at least somewhat interesting. ironically, the hard part of the game is the beginning because no one trades Pokémon who will actually listen to me. the lowest level Pokémon I have is the Zigzagoon at Lv. 16.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 17:58:00 No.53905576 Report

Quoted By: >>53906064 >>53911493

>>53896958
The run is still going well. Simipour probably could have soloed Clay, but I didn't want to deal with the lowered accuracy from muddy water so I let Servine kill his Palpitoad.
Skyla was the easiest gym leader yet. Zebstrika used shock wave three times and I won.
I never liked the monkeys before but this run is starting to make me like Simipour. I hope Simisage or Simisear are this good.

>>53900632
None because I play on emulators.
>>53902192
Good luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 20:38:47 No.53906064 Report

Quoted By: >>53906099

>>53905270
Any way to tell if that Genesect is hacked? I find it hard to believe someone would just give up that rare of a Pokemon.
>>53905576
Simipour shined for me in my X run, he solo'd Malva and (mostly) Drasna and even got the final hit on Diantha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2023 20:46:48 No.53906099 Report

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>>53906064
Hacking Pokémon is super easy with a hacked 3DS. even I can do it, so it’s 100% hacked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 01:43:28 No.53907283 Report

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>>53901545
I forgot to add Shadow Bone again. Whoops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 06:18:15 No.53908062 Report

Quoted By: >>53909846

does anyone here still do the plain old nuzlocke? no dupe clause, no stupid level caps, just the two original rules

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 14:04:23 No.53908845 Report

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just lost a potential alolan raichu to totem wishiwashi in my sun run and im MAD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 17:39:51 No.53909554 Report

Quoted By: >>53909761

>nooooo not the heckin' page 9 bumperinooooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 18:30:54 No.53909761 Report

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>>53909554
whom are you quoting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 18:52:05 No.53909846 Report

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>>53908062
Not from what i've seen. For me, i want to use new Pokémon, gain an appreciation for underloved Pokémon like Simipour, and, with respect to the og rules, without dupes clause i'm using Golem in Johto every time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 21:03:39 No.53910386 Report

Quoted By: >>53911493 >>53913789 >>53915000

>>53810669
Yellow
Dupes=no Mon for the route, level cap at next gym leader, no giftmons except for one Mon from the slots if I feel wild (which I did)
Solid run so far, double Nido'd up, have a Gyarados and some solid mons to fill in the gaps. Current team is pic rel. The three dead are my two bird starters, and a Diglett, all dropped by different Rattata lmao.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 01:44:49 No.53911493 Report

Quoted By: >>53911877 >>53913789 >>53915376

>>53905576
Almost immediately after I made my last post my Sigilyph got killed by pursuit after it barely survived a crit.
Brycen was an easy sweep with Darmanitan. Drayden could have gone badly but Simipour didn't miss any blizzards so I got through the battle deathless. Simipour is the MVP.

>>53910386
>porygon
Based. Good luck with your run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 03:41:24 No.53911877 Report

Quoted By: >>53912006

>>53911493
I had to look up Autismlocke. I'm trying to do this currently, didn't know it was called that.
Good luck rounding it out, seems like you're about half way. Thanks for positivity on the flip, Porygon is almost ready for Erica.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 04:34:27 No.53912006 Report

Quoted By: >>53912010 >>53912028

>>53911877
I completed an Autismlocke(complete with Pokémon Green) and I'm sort of tempted to do another one, but I'm not entirely sure I actually want to do the whole thing.
I might do a more concise version with something like this.
>Red or Blue
>Yellow
>Gold or Silver
>Crystal
>Ruby or Sapphire
>Emerald
>Fire Red or Leaf Green (whichever one I didn't do in Gen 1)
>Diamond or Pearl
>HeartGold or SoulSilver (whichever one I didn't do in Gen 2)
>Black or White
>White 2 or Black 2
>X or Y
>Omega Ruby or Alpha Sapphire (whichever one I didn't do in Gen 3)
>Sun or Moon
>Ultra Sun or Ultra Moon
>Lets Go Eevee?
>Sword or Shield
>Legends Arceus (Don't even know how I'd do this...)
>Scarlet or Violet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 04:35:29 No.53912010 Report

Quoted By: >>53912427

>>53912006
Forgot BDSP somehow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 04:40:24 No.53912028 Report

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>>53912006
Even Green is inspiring, I'll try that after I finish Yellow then R&B. I like the concise version too, but I'm gonna go for all the beans since I missed gens 5-7 entirely and I'm just enjoying the ride.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 07:11:12 No.53912427 Report

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>>53912010
That's ok, Gamefreak forgot about it too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 14:15:07 No.53913499 Report

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bump

AKIN

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AKIN Mon 05 Jun 2023 15:23:09 No.53913789 Report

Quoted By: >>53914835 >>53915000

Back from my Tears of the Kingdom hiatus, and after our glorious Dustox Triumph, we're doing Pearl. We rolled Turtwig and got a bunch of great early encounters: Starly, Intimidate Shinx, and an Onix. Roark went down pretty easy to a combo of Budew and Turtwig. Onto Valley Windworks and Eterna City.

>>53911493
>moxie Krookodile
>sheer force Darmanitan
Scary team
>>53910386
>porygon
Holy based
>>53901545
>>53901539
Good job getting past Hau, those fights where things go tits up separate the boys from the men. Honestly more impressive than the flawless victories

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 19:39:18 No.53914835 Report

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>>53913789
Good luck against Mars and Jupiter.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 20:34:50 No.53915000 Report

Quoted By: >>53915028 >>53915376 >>53918512

>>53910386
Through Erika and the Tower, (Porygon is extremely good for this) on my way down to Fuschia which will net me my Super Rod and some good water coverage besides WG on NQueen.

>>53913789
Porygon has proven to be better than it looked on paper lol. Good luck with the Pearl run!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 20:41:23 No.53915028 Report

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>>53915000
I liked the set-up so much and then forgot several details but Graveler is rocking Double-Edge, Rock Slide, Mega Punch, and Seismic Toss.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 22:27:01 No.53915376 Report

Quoted By: >>53915420 >>53915459 >>53918512

It feels so unfair that I'm allowed to just go to the Wild Area and pick out a Level 56 Gyarados. Nuzlocking is dead now that Pokemon are visible in the overworld.

>>53911493
I always wondered why there's a "champs" feature. I guess it's specifically for autismlocke?

>>53915000
What kind of heartless monster boxes his Pikachu in Yellow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 22:38:21 No.53915420 Report

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>>53915376
You can just keep track of you successful runs via Champs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 22:49:01 No.53915459 Report

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>>53915376
Because I'll use an actual Pikachu in RBG if I'm lucky, but being forced into using a Mon is grounds to not use it imo. I love Yellow which is why I started with it, so Pika has gotten loved plenty by me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 01:05:14 No.53915934 Report

Quoted By: >>53916840

>battle the PokeFan after Slateport in Pokemon Alpha Sapphire
>the Plusle used Bestow to give me an Oran Berry
>the Minum used Switchero to take back the Oran Berry
why tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 05:02:00 No.53916840 Report

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>>53915934
He wanted to give you hope before crushing it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 05:08:50 No.53916858 Report

Quoted By: >>53916887 >>53917856 >>53918512

>>53901539
>>53901545
>Vs Totem Togedemaru (Def+2)
I send in Tim.
>Turn 1
Togedemaru uses Spiky Shield to parry a Bonemerang, then calls in Skarmory.
>Turn 2
The Togedemaru then Bounces out of reach and Skarmory uses Torment, and Tim misses a Bonemerang. So far, 0 for 2.
>Turn 3
Togedemaru comes down with the Bounce, Skarmory sets up SR, and Tim lands Will-O-Wisp on the Totem.
>Turn 4
Togedemaru Zing Zaps Tim, and Skarmory Steel Wings him, but Tim shrugs off the damage, and Bonemerang does big damage, reducing Togedemaru to low health even after the Sitrus Berry.
>Turn 5
Togedemaru then throws up a Spiky Shield, Skarmory Steel Wings again. Sturdy is the only thing saving Skarmory from going down to one Fire Punch.
>Turn 6
Togedemaru hits another Zing Zap, Skarmory another Steel Wing, and Tim is redused to fairly low health... and gets flinched.
>Turn 7
I send in Akane, Togedemaru Bounces, and Skarmory slaps Akane with a Steel Wing.
Akane Bites Skarmory, KOing it, and the Totem Togedemaru falls to burn after landing a Bounce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 05:19:13 No.53916887 Report

Quoted By: >>53918512

>>53916858
>Vs Guzma (Malie Garden)
>Golisopod
Golisopod tries to Sucker Punch, but fails as Kuroki Toxics it.
Two turns of failed Sucker Punches and Toxic stall follow, then one finally hits properly as Kuroki fires off a Venoshock that leaves Golisopod on only a sliver of health, causing Emergency Exit to activate.
>Masquerain
I send in Meta Knight, and Masquerain's Air Slash hits hard despite the resist.
Masquerain's Bug Buzz does huge damage too, but Meta Knight does hit back hard with Ancient Power.
I swap out Meta Knight for Tim, and Tim tanks the next Bug Buzz pretty well.
Masquerain then hits an Air Slash, but falls to Fire Punch.
>Golisopod
I send Kuroki back in on Razor Shell, and Golisopod succumbs to the poison.
I'm always surprised at how hard Guzma's Masqurain hits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 13:50:45 No.53917856 Report

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>>53916858
I'm not trying to notice every little thing, but Trowzer is missing his levels.

AKIN

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AKIN Tue 06 Jun 2023 16:25:06 No.53918512 Report

Quoted By: >>53918737

Beat Mars at the Valley Windworks, Intimidate pivots plus Onix made this fight super easy. Caught a Burmy from the honey tree in the Floaroma Meadows. Might fuck around and try to use the Trash Wormadam, we'll see.

>>53916858
>>53916887
People always forget the Masquerain SpAtk buffs from Gen 6 I think? Kind of hits hard now.
>>53915376
Eh, Gyarados is already OP from like level 20 so how hard is a 56 Gyarados gonna carry you really?
>>53915000
Thanks for the well-wishes! I love your nicknames lmao

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 17:13:52 No.53918737 Report

Quoted By: >>53918899 >>53919196 >>53920398

>>53918512
Yugioh guy from a couple weeks ago.

Progress.

Question for you guys who are more experienced. What's more fun for you?

1v1, 2v2, or 3v3?

I started it off as 3v3 as that's more Yugioh. But my goal is to have a system that's maximized for the optimal play experience. Switching is huge part of the tactical element in Pokemon, and somehow 3v3 battling never took off in Pokemon the same way 2v2 and 1v1 did. Just want some opinions to consider from people who are intimately familiar with Nuzlockes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 17:53:13 No.53918899 Report

Quoted By: >>53918944

Currently just grinding levels, gonna put everyone at 40-45 and then grind up a few of them for Koga and Sabrina specifically, likely Lax/Pory/Dodrio/Nqueen so both are covered decently.

>>53918737
I am ENAMORED by Time Wizard being there, what is this called?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:01:56 No.53918944 Report

Quoted By: >>53918968

>>53918899
It's an RPG Maker fangame I'm making that's basically a roguelike Nuzlocke pokemon-esque game, but using Yugioh monsters and characters.

No real name atm, but the project file is Yugioh Duel Monsters Battler, since I'm still in the early stages and workin on the battle system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:06:34 No.53918968 Report

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>>53918944
I forgot to answer your question; I think 3v3 would help set your game apart, but it might be at the cost of similarity to MSG Pokemon. More in line with Masters EX, which is arguably something the Pokemon franchise should try, i.e. 3v3. Looks like fun, post it here when you're done!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:44:41 No.53919196 Report

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>>53918737
I've never been good with 2v2 or 3v3, but there's definitely an argument to be made for more strategy in them.
Though as I understand, 3v3 can end up being highly degenerate to the point where a skilled player could just sweep the entire 6v6 battle in 2 turns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 23:01:43 No.53920398 Report

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>>53918737
1v1 is really easy to set up with, while there are some difficult 2v2's in the series like the Magmar/Electabuzz double in HGSS, or basically every Brains and Brawn duo in the 3DS entries. 3v3 never got a chance to shine, and i haven't done one in a while, so i can't say much about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 23:08:36 No.53920437 Report

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>>53810860
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 23:09:37 No.53920444 Report

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>>53810846
This

Anonymous

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Out.

Anonymous

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see you guys in the next thread...

Anonymous

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i wanna post but the thread is over the limit

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